Thinkin about gettin a refurbished ps3
I checked online and seen that there are 60 GB PS3 for 467 with a game. However, they are refurbished. I am wondering, does buying a used or non new ps3 affect things like online play or whatever? I mean, would I be able to go online if a used ps3 the same way as a new one or is it like one of those online MMORPG games like World of Warcraft where buying a used copy is useless unless one has the user name and password of the previous owner?
Sorry if my question is strange, but I realize that places like Gamestop not selling used PS3, which makes me wonder if the system cannot be resold "legally" despite me seeing a refurbished one sold on a popular and legal site. So any info would help.
Sorry if my question is strange, but I realize that places like Gamestop not selling used PS3, which makes me wonder if the system cannot be resold "legally" despite me seeing a refurbished one sold on a popular and legal site. So any info would help.
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If you are living elsewhere, then I do not know how good of a deal the refurb is. If you are truly considering buying it, contact Sony and see if they can answer these questions better for you... seeing as they most likely know more about this than I do
The reason why I would rather get the 60 GB than the 80 GB model is because of the emotion chip is only in the 20 and 60 GB models; I didn't want to get the 20 gb model because of the missing flash card slots, as well having two usb ports instead of 4.
The emotion chip allows the system to play ps2 and ps1 game without any additional software.
Imo, I think the backwards capatability chip is more important than storage since one can easily replace the ps3 harddrive (which is acutally a pc seagate harddive) with a bigger one (the ps3 booklet has instructions to replace them.) With that said, I can easily get a 250 GB chip for 60 dollars and sell my old ps2 for that amount of price, if not more whereas it would be close to impossible to insert an emotion chip into a ps3. Sure, the 80 model has software emulation to play ps2 games, but I am not sure if it can also play ps1 games and the software only covers a limited amount of games.
Im going to hold out and pray for sony to get money back and make a chrome version with the emotion chip in it again.. darn software emu.. backwards compat is like nothing now.. sigh.
Also, why not open an ebay and paypal account if you are secure with the idea of shopping there?
As for the new range of ps3's im soo not biting. This is a ploy for them to struggle back to the top. Ill just wait till the next model/ price drop and praaaaaaaay for emotion to come back.
I bought a refurbished GameBoy Micro, the dude let me play with it for like an hour before I bought it, coolest purchase of 2007. I'd put Sam and Max on that list, but those were a gift.
Id just want to know who refurbed' it.. official or like a shop in LA.. etc..
Some of my best hardware was bought less than half price or even given away (since it was broken) But yep be cautious. Me I just got a wii... sadly im not impressed with it and was hoping to be
But Im holding out on ps3 until the 120GB comes out in april.. then Ill snag the cheap 80GB version and use the update thats coming out next month that makes 95% of all ps1 and 2 games work muahah...cough....wheeezee.. ahem sorry.
Ps3 will win the console wars in the end..I can sense it.. its odd really since wii rocked so hard in sales.. they just dont have games to back it up
(in the end I will own them all though muahaha)
Just know refurb could just mean a darn cd tray was stuck or a capacitor blew.. not all refurbs are total wreck.. but... indeed, some are and Ive worked with alot of people who should be at Mcdonalds(tm) rather than soldering stuf.
Well yeah, if it's OFFICIALLY refurbished you haven't got much to worry about, but the problem is that doesn't happen too often, the place we've got around here is Gamestop, they've got their own people, they don't send systems off to Nintendo or Sony or who-ever, so they can't really be trusted, I tend to use electronics 'til the life is drained out of it and there's absolutely no chance it will ever working again, my X-Box is getting to that level, but unfortunately alot of other people do that too, so when it's on it's last leg they sell it to a game store, they send it off to their people, their people fix the stuff that makes it obvious that it's about to die, and then you buy it, and it dies two weeks later, I had an SNES like that a few years ago.
also, you are right about to much stuff being thrown away. not only is it sad that so much junk is produced and resources are wasted, but also that this is what the industry is aiming for. with a lot of stuff you are supposed to trow is away and buy a new one. i tried to fix my old dvd player, which schould have been rather easy, because just a single component was blown, but i couldn't tell if is was a fuse or a resistor or whatever. none of the usual markings were used..
The 80 gb is no longer produced... be warned people.... only the 40gb model will be sold in USA starting February. This means no ps3 will play ps2 or ps1 games.
But on the up side.. its rumored a 120GB version is coming out at no extra cost.. so we shall see.
Call any gamestop and talk to managers.. call every bestbuy and wallmart.. they will tell you. Sony will not comment at this time saying its all rumor but.. stock will not be replenished.
I hope they pick a model and stick to it.. after buying this wii im quite unpleased with it and want the darned ps3 :P
Thank god for that, I was beginning to think I was the only one.
I cant wait for harvest moon though.. im a freak of a HM fan
:P
Also, the 40 gb and possibly the rumored model have less feature other tha no ps2 compatability. For instance, no flash drives and no built in wireless ethernet.
You can put any 2.5 inch hard disk in a ps3 so you can have a 500gb ps3 from the 6gb and still have hardware backwards play and all the memory card ports.
My 50gb ps3 has been turned into a 500gb ps3, and i got it on sale new with 5 free movies, much better than the lame 80b models.
Affecting online play? All you need to do is make a free PSN account, and a copy of the game you wish to play online. But beware, PSN is not exactly stable, nor very user friendly in terms of tools and user interface (until they release the upcoming XMB patch). "Lag free" matches general stem from SONY's own dedicated server hosting for games like Warhawk, everything else is iffy on lag terms. As of now to check on friends messages and invites for chatting you will have to quit the game back to the XMB to check messages or have a chat with friends, which is something of a online game killer. Cheating is very high on the PSN, considering little to no anti-cheat foundation of the service, with The Arbtiers and like minded employed groups being the only anti-cheat there is for games like Warhawk, etc.
I would not recommend getting a refurbished PS3 if you can avoid it but since a 60 gig model is discontinued this is the only way you can get one. However, an 80 gig model for US reigon has only a few small issues with PS2 playback with a very few games not playable and some like Metal Gear Solid 3 suffering only minor frame rate drops in cutscenes or Dragon Quest VIII with sound bugs, while GT4 will not output correctly at 1080i but works fine at other settings (gameplay is not affected). Also getting a refurbished system will deny you access to any warranty programs as refurbished systems is typicaly sold, "as is" with a a general 90 day warranty for returns to the re-seller. As of now PS2 playback is getting patched via firmware for 80 gig models and for 499.99 with MGS 4 and a dual shock 3 and a full warranty coverage, this would be a better package.
Cube, there is not going to be any offical 120 gig PS3's for now. Maybe in 2010 but as of now the 40 gig model is the default package with SONY's stance on people being able to swap out the SATA drive for larger ones in the future as such there is no business incentive to release a PS3 with a larger HDD at a higher price point when the company knows its user base will upgrade their current system to a larger HDD eventually.
..just so i understand everything right: the 60gb version is the "good old" type, with the ps2-chip-thingy, the card reader and lots of usb ports...aaand some chrome, i heard.
the newer versions are the 40 and 80gb, right? are both lacking the above mentioned stuff? or is the 80gb edition still having the usb-ports and card reader? also, i heard rumors about ps2-compatiblity done by software emulation as well. is this now officially working and if it is, is it available for the 80gb machine only?
furthermore, i would like to know if or when i will be able to get that white cased ps3...
60 and 20 gig models = Full Emotions chip and GPU chip from the playstation 2 hardware which = supposedly full playback of all Playstation 2 games.
80 gig = has only the GPU chip with software emulation of the Emotions chip = Most USA released titles work, a lot of PAL titles suffer from lack of Emotions chip.
40 Gig = Playstation 2 games are boned from the start as there is no GPU or Emotions chip found on the board. No Playstation 2 playback.
Firmware updates are done for 60 and 80 gigs to fix certain errors, for example the intial upscale error the 60 gigs had at launch was well fixed. 80 gig is getting firmware updates for games that either don't behave nicely or didn't work at all. What games there are, I have no clue all that is listed in Firmware updates is, "added extra compatibality to select games."
As for PS3 titles, I highly recommend giving Uncharted a rent. If you don't have a beast of a PC, Unreal Tournament 3 works wonders on PS3 with keyboard and mouse and if you can find a low ping server (keyword: IF) then it's a blast. Battlefield Bad Company is surpisingly fun, but if I haven't addressed this yet very very very few people use headsets at all on PSN titles which can be a nice thing (considering the venom that floats around Xbox Live anymore.)
IMO the 60 gig is the one to get - built in wi-fi, card readers, etc., along with full bc. I wouldn't bet on the 40 gig ever getting bc since it seems Sony wants to focus less on being able to play old games and more on getting people to buy PS3 games, but you never know.
Good luck getting anything other than a standard black case; all the other ones you'll have to import, and they can't be found easily anymore anyway.
Games: Heavenly Sword and Uncharted are damned fine games. Uncharted looks amazing in HD and there's a demo for it (not sure about Heavenly Sword though). You might also want to check out Folklore (depending on your tastes - you can check out the demo on PSN)... it has an amazing atmosphere, art style, and music.
And I'm afraid of a possible DRE failure going on with the ps3 that had plagued first generation PS2 as time passes on with the disc drives, especialy the first generation units and 40 gigs in how hasty they were assembled.
the best thing is, that the 80gig model isn't even available over here.
they'd better have a good machine out by the time resident evil 5 or the next final fantasy is released or i'll be totally....ahm...:mad:.
this topic was made months ago and have since bought a ps3 refurbished a few day after l made this topic; l have no problem with my ps3 and the games I play online. so yes l know that online gamin on the system is free.
Wait till you play Call of Duty 4 and Bad Company on a ps3, you'll say otherwise. Random freezes and system reboots on random times when you attempt to quit games. Let alone lock ups in multiplayer matches, mostly found in GTA IV still and Bad Company with mostly found with passenger gunner freezes.
And may I ask, since you do have a refurbished system do you have a full year warranty coverage?
Anyway, it may sound like I'm hammering the ps3 but I really enjoy my gaming on the system. It's just the games I enjoy on it seem to be the more buggy ones : /. Gran Turismo 5 P is very fun, but sadly the online multiplayer is not so much fun due to the less than fair play habits of players abusing the anti-accident system to go from last place to first by physicaly passing though everyone.
And sorry, didn't check the time stamp on your post... I'm absent minded and an insomniac...shinny...
Sorry but I am not really into military games with the exception of MGS series and if I were, I would purchase it for the PC if I a siblin of mines didnt already have it for the 360 (my brother has it for the 360, which I do not touch since I don't like those sort of games and all theg ames he purchased are ones I do not play). I know your comment is old, I won't be swayed the other way to buy a system because of someone on the net. Sorry again.
Right now, there is a bundle with a DS3 and metal gear solid IV.
Sp. I contacted Sony and they were cool with fixing it for free (I just had to fork out the shipping to them). I thought that was great, Wooh Sony! Got my PS2 back after a few weeks "refurbished" and it worked fine, for a couple of months. Then I started getting the dreaded DREs again. So I sent it back in, fixed for free(still under warrenty this time), got another "refurbished" one. Guess what happened a few months later, DREs.
I was extrememly mad, shot Sony a rage filled mail, (they fixed it for free again, but also sent me UPS label in my e-mail to cover the cost of shipping. Yea rage!)so I felt kind of bad later(that wouldn't last too long). Got my "refurbished yet again" PS2 and yeah a few months later DREs. Needless to say I took it to a field to vent "Office Space" style. Anyway unable to break the claim Sony has on my soul I bought a Slim PS2, but I never had one DRE ever again.
Not to say "refurbished" PS3s are bad, just a buyer beware warning.
I have a 360, a Wii, and a mid-range gaming PC, all of which I'm pretty happy with. So, my main interest in the PS3 is due to the ability to play Blu-Ray movies, and the ability to install a different OS on the machine. I was thinking about getting one and installing a new OS on a bootable partition to make the system work as a media server. Right now I connect my laptop's video out into the TV, and I use 360's network streaming(expanded a bit through TVersity), but a more permanent solution would be nice. Have they been phasing the new OS feature out of any of the PS3 models?
Old thread is old.
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Thanks, I'm sorry I didn't even NOTICE the date on that. Wow. I feel like an idiot.
i wish i found this thread sooner..
sigh..
only one model of ps3 in USA played ps2... the rest.. just wont..
period..
even with patches or whatnot..
lame but.. true....(but the + side is ps2's are like 10$) .. jk but still
best ps3 is the first model in terms of compatibility and mods etc.. but its slower and hotter than the newer smaller chipsets that run cooler and quieter and dare I say a bit quicker due to that.
Edit: Oh yeah, and for the record, all PS3s play PSone games.
Not to mention the rumors of Sony releasing PS2 software emulation in an upcoming firmware update for the SKUs that don't have PS2 support already.