They added Ben into the TV Series?

edited December 2012 in The Walking Dead
I know this is a bit of a stretch and all, but in the mid-season 3 finale they have a new character named Ben. Is it supposed to be the Tall Tale's Ben?

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  • edited December 2012
    I don't think so. The events in the Comics and TV Series take place a while after the game.
  • edited December 2012
    Ben's a pretty common name.......
  • edited December 2012
    Yeah, there was also a kid named Ben in the comics. He killed
    his brother.
    :)
  • edited December 2012
    In the last episode there was a guy (don't know his name) in the new survivor group that gave me a Ben Strike... *scared* :D
  • edited December 2012
    I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but Axel kind of reminds me of an older Ben.
  • edited December 2012
    If ben was added i feel he would cause the end of show with him causing the death of most of the characters.
  • edited December 2012
    Luigi01080 wrote: »
    If ben was added i feel he would cause the end of show with him causing the death of most of the characters.

    haha
  • edited December 2012
    Just looked my Ben stroke up again... his name is actually Ben... and he looks damn close... too damn close... :D

    ben.jpg
  • edited December 2012
    Well in the TV Show Ben's dad is called Allen and his mom is called Donna.

    If anyone has read the Comics, they'll understand who these characters are, and they are NOT Ben from the game :P

    Though they did increase Ben's age in the TV Show...
  • edited December 2012
    Good thing he doesn't have an identical twin lile in the comics.... >_>
    lets hope he's not the same lol
  • edited December 2012
    He's somehow based on Ben from the comics, since Allen and Donna are there too, but it's pretty funny that he's a teenager in this. Now I can make jokes about this Ben too. Also, I wonder where Billy is in this?
  • edited December 2012
    Moggyoxys wrote: »
    He's somehow based on Ben from the comics, since Allen and Donna are there too, but it's pretty funny that he's a teenager in this. Now I can make jokes about this Ben too. Also, I wonder where Billy is in this?

    Probably wanted to avoid the event that happens in the "Fear the Hunters" arc.

    On a side note, does anyone know how to do spoiler tags?
  • edited December 2012
    [sp0iler]REPLACE THE 0s with Os[/sp0iler]
  • edited December 2012
    uhh...does anything actually /happen/ in the tv show? It always sounds like the big and/or good bits are changed or completely removed.
  • edited December 2012
    God I hope he acts like TTG's Ben, and gets everyone killed.
  • edited December 2012
    I think the new Ben in the show is actually the comics Ben. Sasha even says "We're out here to bury Donna" in the clip for the Feb. 10th episode that was shown on Talking Dead.

    @rachellouise85 The show is chock full of great moments, from the pilot to the current episodes. Yes, it's not a reenactment of the comics, but if it was, that would suck because we would see everything coming and it would get stale fast. If you haven't watched, AMC will be doing a marathon of every episode on New Year's Eve and Day and I highly suggest you check it out. By the end you'll be another gigantic fan of the show. In my opinion, the show helps compliment the comics and the characters in them by adding subtleties and expansion of certain plot points that helps enforce the lessons conveyed in the comics.
  • edited December 2012
    I don't get AMC, at least I don't think so. Not sure what channel it's on here, I keep missing everything. Will probably get boxset or something.
  • edited December 2012
    Yeah, there was also a kid named Ben in the comics. He killed
    his brother.
    :)
    And then Carl kills this kids after the group discussed killing him. A lot of kid on kid killings.
  • edited December 2012
    uhh...does anything actually /happen/ in the tv show? It always sounds like the big and/or good bits are changed or completely removed.

    From my viewpoint, the only thing worth watching was the pilot. The rest is a heavy retooling of the original. If you're not a comic reader, watch the show. If you like the comic, avoid it. Or, you know. Just read the comic.
  • edited December 2012
    From my viewpoint, the only thing worth watching was the pilot. The rest is a heavy retooling of the original. If you're not a comic reader, watch the show. If you like the comic, avoid it. Or, you know. Just read the comic.

    You say that like a heavy retooling is a bad thing. It's the NECESSARY thing when adapting material to another medium. Watching the show will in no way lessen your comics reading experience, unless you have a preconceived and unwavering notion of what you think is the right and irrefutable way to do the series justice. Whether you enjoy the comic, hate it, or have never even heard of it, the show has something to offer any fan of GOOD television.

    As for not having AMC, I'm pretty sure they have many episodes available to watch online, on Netflix, etc. and DVD sets typically go for less than $25 each. It's incredibly easy to digest TWD across all media it's represented in.
  • edited December 2012
    From my viewpoint, the only thing worth watching was the pilot. The rest is a heavy retooling of the original. If you're not a comic reader, watch the show. If you like the comic, avoid it. Or, you know. Just read the comic.
    I read the comics and still enjoy the TV series. It's nice to watch the TV series because it doesn't follow the comic book series religiously, there would be no point in watching it if it did.
  • edited December 2012
    CarScar wrote: »
    I read the comics and still enjoy the TV series. It's nice to watch the TV series because it doesn't follow the comic book series religiously, there would be no point in watching it if it did.

    I applaud your common sense. It's kind of rare in this crowd.
  • edited December 2012
    Read the comics, Watch the show and play the game.

    Enjoy all of them.

    That illegal now or something :D?
  • edited December 2012
    This is a test
  • edited December 2012
    CarScar wrote: »
    I read the comics and still enjoy the TV series. It's nice to watch the TV series because it doesn't follow the comic book series religiously, there would be no point in watching it if it did.

    Well, you have to admit, the current young adult generation might be used to comic adaptations more like how Japanese Mangas get translated into Anime. It is often not 1 on 1, but usually 90% of the original story is still in the series.

    So yeah, some people expect or want that from adaptations for TV. Personally, I like that the series is different then the comics. I havent read the comics yet, but it is pretty high on my 'to read' list at this time. And knowing it's different than the series is the main reason I still want to read them.

    To each their own really.
  • edited December 2012
    You say that like a heavy retooling is a bad thing. It's the NECESSARY thing when adapting material to another medium.

    You don't know that, you've only accepted it as fact. The only thing a television series needs is a strong beginning and ending (episode). The arc (season) needs a big climax as well. That already exists in the comic, it's just a matter of expanding and condensing what already exists. Instead we have substitution everywhere and in most cases I think it goes against what I liked about the original series.

    I'd rather have straightforward reenactments of my favorite parts with filler and abridging, which I am used to seeing already in anime adaptation. Keeping Shane alive for another season was a good choice. The Tyreese alpha and beta models were bad choices. Changing Carl and Andrea's characters to give them an "arc" into competence was a bad idea. Killing Dale was a good move, but regrettably was only a reflex following Darabont's canning. Killing Sophia was a good move, but only done because she was getting taller. This adaptation doesn't look as well planned as the comic, which is a huge detriment. If you know where the source material goes, it should give you plenty of time to flesh out events, build things, put in new material to bring out later incidents.
  • edited December 2012
    You don't know that, you've only accepted it as fact. The only thing a television series needs is a strong beginning and ending (episode). The arc (season) needs a big climax as well. That already exists in the comic, it's just a matter of expanding and condensing what already exists. Instead we have substitution everywhere and in most cases I think it goes against what I liked about the original series.

    I'd rather have straightforward reenactments of my favorite parts with filler and abridging, which I am used to seeing already in anime adaptation. Keeping Shane alive for another season was a good choice. The Tyreese alpha and beta models were bad choices. Changing Carl and Andrea's characters to give them an "arc" into competence was a bad idea. Killing Dale was a good move, but regrettably was only a reflex following Darabont's canning. Killing Sophia was a good move, but only done because she was getting taller. This adaptation doesn't look as well planned as the comic, which is a huge detriment. If you know where the source material goes, it should give you plenty of time to flesh out events, build things, put in new material to bring out later incidents.

    It has to follow the comics, otherwise, it's completely pointless to use the same namesake as the comics.

    That said, it doesn't have to follow the comics 100%. I remember someone trying to spoil season 1 for me (I never read the comics at the point) by yelling "Shane dies in the forests!". Only for Shane to die at the end of next season in a field. I loved that.

    If you don't follow the comics at all, it's pointless. If you follow the comics event for event, it's pointless. You have to balance originality and familiarity so comic people are pleased and newcomers won't have everything spoiled for them. The TV show does a damn good job at balancing this. My only issue was the amount of dialogue in season 2.
  • edited December 2012
    Okay, so we could say, Rick is gonna lose his arm?
  • edited December 2012
    Doctanian wrote: »
    If you don't follow the comics at all, it's pointless. If you follow the comics event for event, it's pointless. You have to balance originality and familiarity so comic people are pleased and newcomers won't have everything spoiled for them. The TV show does a damn good job at balancing this. My only issue was the amount of dialogue in season 2.

    I agree with everything that you said except that the TV show balances the comic events with original events. None of the events of the comic have been shown since the pilot. Since then it's all been a distant adaptation. At this point it's going to be Daryl who survives being locked in the gym full of walkers.
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