What's the big deal about Carley?

What's the big deal, why is everyone so emotional about her?

I mean, I'm more sad about Doug.

Carley seemed really plain and two-dimensional, and everyone's saying she's good with a gun, which is true I suppose, but she doesn't do anything special with it. Shoots a few things like everyone else, but Lilly does a fine job shooting things to save Lee without her.

And they also say "Well, Lee fancied her so she must be awesome". It seemed like a forced romance. It didn't give you any choice, it just HAD to happen, even if you really didn't like Carley.

And to the people saying "Carley's hot" - I honestly think Molly and Lilly were better-looking. Hell, even Beatrice and Irene have a better shot in my "looks books" than Carley does.

So, please tell me why you like Carley so much? It won't change my mind, but I fail to see why anyone would like her more than Doug :P Obviously this is just my opinion and I want to hear yours!

Comments

  • edited December 2012
    People like Carley because they're shallow and think "BOOBS" before anything else. she is a girl and therefore has lady parts, and that is the only thing thise people care about, no matter what else they could possibly say. The end.
  • edited December 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    People like Carley because they're shallow and think "BOOBS" before anything else. she is a girl and therefore has lady parts, and that is the only thing thise people care about, no matter what else they could possibly say. The end.

    No, people like Carley because she was a good character who got far more screen time than Doug. If Doug got as much screen time as Carley then people would be upset about Doug as well. I picked Carley on my first playthrough, and Doug on everyone of my other playthroughs. Doug said less, did less, and was overall less important to the story than Carley.

    And to OP; Yeah, I agree with most of your points here, except that Carley was plain and two dimensional. She seemed that way to me in the first episode, but so did Doug. I picked her because she was slightly more interesting at the time. Both the characters get better throughout all of the game if you keep talking to them.
  • edited December 2012
    It isn't true to say that Carley does nothing special with her gun. She is seen killing more zombies than any other member of the group, and she saves Lee and Clem more than any other member of the group.

    People also like her because for the most part, she is also a moral character.

    When you first meet her, along with Glenn she rescues Lee, Clem and Kenny's family when they get surrounded by zombies outside the Pharmacy, even though Lilly and Larry were against it. She shows concern for Clementine and will refuse food when supplies are low, telling Lee to either feed Clem first or hold onto it in case Lee or Clem gets hungry later. And she is the first to give Lee a second chance on his past as a convicted felon, and keeps to her word not to tell the rest of the group. Later she sticks up for Ben, who was just a kid, when Lilly starts throwing around accusations without proof.

    Her one moral failing was perhaps in not wanting to rescue the trapped girl at the motor inn. But considering the circumstances, it was at least understable. And everyone is allowed a mistake or two during the Zombie Apocalypse. ;)
  • edited December 2012
    "Lee gonna get dat puss tonight, Lee gonna get dat puss tonight."

    I saved Doug. It's a shame he wasn't able to help with the train.
  • edited December 2012
    What? You couldn't necro one of the dozens of existing threads?

    Oh wait, I see now.... there was already an existing thread on the first page.... silly me.....
  • edited December 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    People like Carley because they're shallow and think "BOOBS" before anything else. she is a girl and therefore has lady parts, and that is the only thing thise people care about, no matter what else they could possibly say. The end.

    i saved carley because she is a lady. Ladies first! and plus lee said - STAY AWAY from the windows! and what did doug do... and carley
    '' HI MY NAMES CARLEY. im going to run into a walker battlefield without grabbing my ammo! Im so clever :) ''
  • edited December 2012
    when she died i almost had to cry, she reminds me to my girlfriend
  • edited December 2012
    I actually think Carley has the biggest kill count out of all of the survivors, Lee may have finally surpassed her after episode 5 though.
  • edited December 2012
    I don't understand why people should have to justify saving Carley. I thought she was a great character in Episode 1. Although one of the main reasons I chose her because she was female, it wasn't because what you said. It was because it evens out the male to female ratio in the group and I like a more diverse group, and I preferred her to Doug. Doug is a good character but I think Carley has more personality, seems like a nice person and after the whole trust thing in the Drugstore in Episode 1, she seemed like someone who could be a true friend to Lee. I wanted her to be a romance option though, but I thought she wouldn't because she was still getting over Doug. I really liked the thing between her and Lee at the start of Episode 3, it didn't feel forced at all to me. Her death in Episode 3 was one of my favourite moments of the game, not because I wanted her to die but because it was so shocking. I think in comparison Doug's role in the game feels like it's lacking
  • edited December 2012
    When deciding who to save I always picked who I thought neede my help more. In this case a young man or young lady. I picked the lady. With duck and Shaun. Young boy and young man. I picked young boy.
  • edited December 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    People like Carley because they're shallow and think "BOOBS" before anything else. she is a girl and therefore has lady parts, and that is the only thing thise people care about, no matter what else they could possibly say. The end.

    No. I liked Carley because she was a great female likeable character, who wasn't annoying or pointless.

    Now the only likeable character left is Clementine.

    Anyway, I never enjoyed Doug's character.
  • edited December 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    People like Carley because they're shallow and think "BOOBS" before anything else. she is a girl and therefore has lady parts, and that is the only thing thise people care about, no matter what else they could possibly say. The end.
    People who say this infuriate me. Perhaps people like her because she has a likeable personality? Perhaps they saved her because she was a much more developed character than Doug (aka Mr. two minutes of screen time) in episode one? I suppose all the ladies who saved her are lesbians then?

    Carley, who manages to be the second most badass survivor in the group next to the playable character, thanks to her crack shooting skills. She's also the most likely and consistent candidate to pull a Big Damn Heroes moment and save Lee whenever he's in trouble.
    That's tvtropes description of her. Perhaps people like her because of that?
  • edited December 2012
    A part of me thinks Telltale wanted people to like Carley more than Doug. In his final stats screen, it can show a message saying "You told him he was a weird guy. You weren't wrong." He accomplishes so much less than Carley, unfortunately.

    Alarm system, albeit quite useful, the watch can handle that. Plus, wouldn't you have to constantly go outside to fix the wire? One walker getting tangled up in it is all it takes, and that's extremely easy for a walker to do.

    The laser pointer. No real complaints here, i prefer this to the gunshot, actually. Either way works.

    The remote control for the TVs in episode 1. Again no complaints.

    That's 3 things Doug's got going for him. He saves Lee's life once, compared to Carley who does it 3 times, among others. A gun can be used in a truckload of situations to save lives, and Doug admits that he can barely do anything because he simply doesn't have the supplies to do so. Carley also knows Lee's past and gives him a chance to tell everyone about it, whereas with Doug Lilly spills the beans and relationships are strained.

    Doug was a cool guy, but we shouldn't be surprised that most people save Carley.
  • edited December 2012
    Doug was just "poorly written" in ep 1 and TT didn't change that in ep 2 and 3 because only 23% of players saved him. Saving Doug gives you a less interesting story because there is no way to tell the group about your past, you have less dialogue with him than with Carley and he is generaly "less useful".
  • edited January 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    Doug was just "poorly written" in ep 1 and TT didn't change that in ep 2 and 3 because only 23% of players saved him. Saving Doug gives you a less interesting story because there is no way to tell the group about your past, you have less dialogue with him than with Carley and he is generaly "less useful".

    THIS. Although I don't think Carley is a perfect character (as she shouldn't be), Doug just isn't fun to have around at all. Carley has a strong personality and stands up to Lilly. Her skills are more useful than Doug's in the ZA. There's not much to talk to Doug about in Ep. 1...
  • edited January 2013
    ^That.


    But I don't think she's perfect. In Episode 1, if you tell Kenny your parents owned the pharmacy, you still have the same conversation with Carley in the office and if you don't lie to her, you get into a little argument over letting people know who you are, even though she later decides she wants you to tell them... :/ I was kind of annoyed over that. The girl had no right to get into my business; I didn't get into hers.
  • edited January 2013
    ^That.


    But I don't think she's perfect. In Episode 1, if you tell Kenny your parents owned the pharmacy, you still have the same conversation with Carley in the office and if you don't lie to her, you get into a little argument over letting people know who you are, even though she later decides she wants you to tell them... :/ I was kind of annoyed over that. The girl had no right to get into my business; I didn't get into hers.

    For what it's worth she mentions this in episode 3. "3 months ago i told you not to tell anyone and now I'm saying you should." or something along those lines.
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