People who chose/like Carley apparently are shallow, uneducated, for boobs, boners...

edited January 2013 in The Walking Dead
I can't believe that there's people who think that those who chose her over Doug was because of those idiotic excuses, maybe for a few players that's may be true but definitely not the majority.

Carley saved lives countless times, helped out a lot, shot the walkers, spoke the truth, stood up against Lilly and when Doug was near to that brick on the pharmacy's gate, what did he do with it? Nothing, Lee had to open the gate to get it himself.

TellTale's maybe did this on purpose to make Carley the more likeable character of the two, but there's no reason to be insulting the ones who chose to save her over Doug.

*sigh* just stop this nonsense of calling people uneducated, shallow, only picked her for boobs, get laid, for boner. Just shut the fuck up about those lies or keep them to yourself.

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  • edited January 2013
    You got to admit that Doug had hardly no screen time in ep 1, and also in 2 and 3, while Carley did. The problem isn't that people saved Carley because she's a girl, but because you don't get to know Doug before making the choice.
  • edited January 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    You got to admit that Doug had hardly no screen time in ep 1, and also in 2 and 3, while Carley did. The problem isn't that people saved Carley because she's a girl, but because you don't get to know Doug before making the choice.

    Don't forget that she has saved your life and also Clementine's life. I figured I owed her one, everything else aside.

    Also, if I was to be heartless... Doug is seemingly a kid. And overweight. And can't fight. That isn't a good combo in the ZA.
  • edited January 2013
    Don't forget that she has saved your life and also Clementine's life. I figured I owed her one, everything else aside.

    Also, if I was to be heartless... Doug is seemingly a kid. And overweight. And can't fight. That isn't a good combo in the ZA.

    That's because he has no screen time. And he's not fat, he's big boned :D
  • edited January 2013
    At first, I admit I was attracted because of her looks, but when I got to know her more, I was attracted of both. (Personality + Looks)

    They aren't lies dude, some people think that (but we didnt) we chose her over doug cus of the reasons above.

    I saved her because she's pretty, and I felt there was a true connection between her and Lee. What else is, when she confronted you and stuff, you know you can trust her. What else is, she's a great person.

    But looks definitely played a role here. Not saying a big role or whatever "but everyone's different, who knows how they'll take it, you know". We can't say it played a large one or small one.

    It's natural to get boners (or have that feelign of attraction) if you see a pretty person. I'm not one of those who say these things, nor am I defending them, but I'm just saying it. I think it's natural. When you're near your crush or gf or whatever, I'm sure you'll have any of those.

    She's a good character. People should respect that. But we should also respect their opinion as well.(unless its full of crap/insulting)

    #TeamCarley
  • edited January 2013
    That reminds me of this post I saw... Someone said that Telltales managed to make clear who is the intelligent, mature side of the community and who is the dumb, immature side. The smart, mature choice was apparently Doug. Which is so stupid. People who saved the more developed character, the girl with the groups only gun (at the time), the girl who saved your life multiple times in rapid succession is supposedly the stupid choice. Huh? One of my buddies saved Doug because, as I quote, "he was the least obvious choice, I'm probably going to be rewarded later in the game for having the balls to choose that choice." Following episode 3 he wished he saved Carley on his main play through because he didn't feel rewarded at all for being in the 20% but rather felt he was somewhat jipped off.

    There's always going to be people who liked her simply because she was a willing girl (which is just weird considering its a video game). I, personally, like her because she's essentially the groups Andrea (comics).
  • edited January 2013
    Logically it makes more sense to save the Carly because she was the best shot and had the gun! Lol plus her being a lot cooler then Doug helped in the decision process as well.
  • edited January 2013
    I too think one of the main reasons is she's more developed initially than Doug is. There's also many people who prefer gun skills to technical skills, and that she knows your past.

    "You're a strange guy, Doug." "I know."
  • edited January 2013
    Everything has their pros and cons. Doug is good w/ electronics since he's an AV and Carley isn't taht good but who cares in an apocalypse, electronics wont matter but trust, cooperation, accuracy w/ gun will matter. I chose carley cus she seemed useful, loyal and always in concern, ready to help people.

    Her personality is admirable. Do you agree guys?
  • edited January 2013
    Everything has their pros and cons. Doug is good w/ electronics since he's an AV and Carley isn't taht good but who cares in an apocalypse, electronics wont matter but trust, cooperation, accuracy w/ gun will matter. I chose carley cus she seemed useful, loyal and always in concern, ready to help people.

    Her personality is admirable. Do you agree guys?

    I definitely agree.

    Electronic devices in times like these are pretty useless unless they have some kind of energy/battery.
  • edited January 2013
    Here is what my initial thoughts were on my very first playthrough (picked Doug btw):

    Carley:
    + Hot Chick
    + Good Shooter
    + a lot more screentime spent with her = more sympathy.
    - dumb (batteries, duh)
    - knows my murder story

    Doug:
    + Bros before hoes
    + intelligent
    +useful technical knowledge
    + heroic in crucial situations (known from Carleys story about him saving her)
    - very little screentime
    - isn't a hot chick
  • edited January 2013
    Its not saving her its the post death denial thats lasted months "Shot in cheek bullet bounces off" It was point blank she was a good charecter but as Reggie D Hunter would put it "She Dead" Stop trying to bring a charecter shot in the face back.
    This isnt a you saved her its the death response thats stupid.
  • edited January 2013
    This is an example of out of context not THATS WHY you picked her I saved Carley. But stop the Kenny or Carley alive threads
  • edited January 2013
    dubesor wrote: »
    Here is what my initial thoughts were on my very first playthrough (picked Doug btw):

    Carley:
    + Hot Chick.....
    + Good Shooter!
    + more screentime spent with her = more sympathy.?
    - dumb (batteries, duh)
    + knows my murder story
    + Women and children first
    Doug:
    Bros before hoes
    + intelligent
    +useful technical knowledge
    + heroic in crucial situations (known from Carleys story about him saving her)
    - very little screentime
    - isn't a hot chick
    - doenst know your past
    fixed it in a more traditional way :P
    when did this bros b4 hoes pop up? that in the titanic... would kids be applied as priority over '' bros? ''
    did you feel sympathy for lilly when she shot carley? or doug
    i changed carley knowing your past as a + and doug not knowing as a -
  • edited January 2013
    I saved Carley out of gratitude and respect for her selflessness.
    1. She rushes out of the drugstore's safety to save me, Clem, etc. (complete strangers).
    2. She stands up to Larry and Lilly who don't want to take in strangers.
    3. She opposes Larry killing Duck.
    4. She saved Clem from the bathroom walker.
    5. She keeps your secret. In a way, this saves your life again because it prevents your past from being used as an excuse to kick you into the streets full of walkers.
    6. She volunteers to go with me to rescue Glenn.

    Did Carley being a pretty woman had something to do with my choice at a subconscious level? Probably, I don't know. My first instinct was to save whoever saved me. This was the same reason I tried to save Shawn over Duck at Hershel's farm because him giving me a ride saved Clem and my life.

    Like others pointed out, she had a lot more screen time, and all that screen time was mostly about her helping me. It's hard to dismiss that.

    Personally, I was not impressed with Doug at all. Carley haters like to criticize her for the battery thing while ignoring the good things she did. Seriously, who here hasn't done something that's stupid and minor? They also ignore that Doug doesn't act very smart either. I mean he suggests going outside and taking a look hoping a flimsy store gate will be enough to hold back walkers. The only reason the pack of walkers didn't see you in plain sight was because TTG writers willed it so and made chilling out side the drugstore necessary to forward the story. Logically, it didn't make sense and was a pretty stupid and dangerous move. I also don't recall Doug standing up for the newcomers during Larry's tirade.
  • edited January 2013
    aaron1290 wrote: »
    - doenst know your past
    fixed it in a more traditional way :P
    when did this bros b4 hoes pop up? that in the titanic... would kids be applied as priority over '' bros? ''
    did you feel sympathy for lilly when she shot carley? or doug
    i changed carley knowing your past as a + and doug not knowing as a -

    Don't use a quote and then edit my text, it is misleading to people who read your post without mine. Because in my opinion it doesn't make sense. If you disagree post it in your post but don't alter my text and then make it seem like you directly quoted me.
  • edited January 2013
    aaron1290 wrote: »
    - doenst know your past
    fixed it in a more traditional way :P
    when did this bros b4 hoes pop up? that in the titanic... would kids be applied as priority over '' bros? ''
    did you feel sympathy for lilly when she shot carley? or doug
    i changed carley knowing your past as a + and doug not knowing as a -

    Plus, you could in some instances say that technical expertise can be a negative for Doug. Mostly anything his technical skills are capable of cannot be done because he doesn't have the supplies to do so(mentioned in episode 2). Carley's main skill(pistol) requires only bullets, and they are(at least initially) easily found or already stockpiled.

    Edit:Also, i don't think Carley nor Doug stand up for Duck when Larry wants him out. The only thing Carley says is "Will everyone chill the fuck out!" which doesn't take sides.
  • edited January 2013
    dubesor wrote: »
    Don't use a quote and then edit my text, it is misleading to people who read your post without mine. Because in my opinion it doesn't make sense. If you disagree post it in your post but don't alter my text and then make it seem like you directly quoted me.

    you're pretty right i could have put your post copy and pasted it and edited it :/
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    edited January 2013
    dubesor wrote: »
    Here is what my initial thoughts were on my very first playthrough (picked Doug btw):

    Carley:
    + Hot Chick
    + Good Shooter
    + a lot more screentime spent with her = more sympathy.
    + Trustworthy
    + Street smart
    + Saves your life
    + Saves Clementine's life
    - not technically savvy
    - knows my murder story

    Doug:
    + Bros before hoes
    + book smart
    + useful technical knowledge
    + heroic in crucial situations (known from Carleys story about him saving her)
    - very little screentime
    - isn't a hot chick
    - overweight/slower
    - doesn't like using weapons
    Fixed that for you.
  • edited January 2013
    I'll just leave this here.
    anonymau5 wrote: »
    No, people like Carley because she was a good character who got far more screen time than Doug. If Doug got as much screen time as Carley then people would be upset about Doug as well. I picked Carley on my first playthrough, and Doug on everyone of my other playthroughs. Doug said less, did less, and was overall less important to the story than Carley.
  • edited January 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    You got to admit that Doug had hardly no screen time in ep 1, and also in 2 and 3, while Carley did. The problem isn't that people saved Carley because she's a girl, but because you don't get to know Doug before making the choice.

    This. If Doug had been allowed to confront you in the same way Carly does, then the choice would have been even.
  • edited January 2013
    anonymau5 wrote: »
    I'll just leave this here.

    that's a very valid point. I agree, the difference in screentime is tremendous between the two. I mean with carley you have the 1 small puzzle (radio), the occasion in the room where she confronts you, the big mission to rescue glenn+the girl and a lot of side-converastions.

    with doug you have... the tiny conversation at the outside-door and that's it.

    Again, I have also listed screentime has a huge reason. Personally I picked Doug (see why above) but if he got the same content as Carley did I would assume the results would have been a lot different to what they are now.

    It's almost like telltale wanted you to pick Carley.
  • edited January 2013
    Last time I checked, I was a straight female, so the argument "BOOBS" is invalid.
  • edited January 2013
    My decision to help Carley was purely instinctual, yes I helped Carley because she was female. I did not choose her because of her looks, her contributios to the group, or because I liked her more than Doug, I reacted out of instinct, and would have done the same thing if it was Lilly or Kat. The instinct to protect a female is inherant in most males, combine that with all the teachings and tales by parents and society reflecting this view, I was surprised more males here didn't react the same way and for the same reason. And before someone jumps in with the whole " in a ZA situation hogwash" I'm talking instinct here. It's easy to come up with valid reasons why you chose one over the other when you have the time to reflect on the situation. But during my first run when Carley and Doug both needed my help, when I had no idea how much time I had to react, when I couldn't weigh the contributions or the advantages of the one over the other, my reaction was pure instinct and with not a moments hesitation I helped Carley.
  • edited January 2013
    I saved Carley mostly because she had the group's only gun at the time; everything else aside, she goes down, we lose that weapon. The fact she was actually competent with it and thus could help with things like defending the group or hunting? Bonus. That she gets more screentime and already helped multiple times? Another bonus. If she were a fat trucker named Earl with the same attributes besides gender, Doug still would've ended up as zombie chow.

    By contrast, Doug helped by programming a remote, that's about it.
  • edited January 2013
    Ah .. boobies!
  • edited January 2013
    she had a gun and could handle it (quite good) - he couldn't, she's hot, he's not.
    that was everything i had time to think for, i didn't "cheat" and press the XboX button to think about it, i did it as telltale wanted me to, with little time. It was no decision to me, but instinct in some way, I also thought she'd reload the gun then maybe save Doug.
  • edited January 2013
    If we're talking the very first time, I chose Carley pretty much purely because she had a gun. I had very little time, and didn't know either character well enough.

    Even now having seen how they both play out. Id still chose Carley just because i liked her more personally. (not that i hated Doug). The sort of "sexy action girl" characters have just tended to irritate me in other games so that's not the reason i liked her at all. She was trustworthy, friendly and helpful.
  • edited January 2013
    Doug saved Carley's life before the motel. They both had crushes on one another and it's sad 1 of them has to die in the 1st episode. I would have liked to see there relationship play out.
  • edited January 2013
    Now I just feel odd. My first time in that situation, I chose to save Doug. Why? Well, because Carley had more screen time. I know that's a reason people give for saving her, but let me explain.

    I know more about Carley. I know she's capable of using a gun. I know she's assertive. Now, when it came time to choose, I saw her facing a single walker with one hand around her ankle and she positioned herself just out of reach of her ammo (bad move). Doug was being pulled from behind by several walkers, had no weapon, and was pinned.

    From what I knew about Carley, she should have been able to get herself out of that situation. Just yank your leg through the walker's thumb joint (easiest way to break a grapple), and get your ammo. Heck, if she just stood next to her purse, where she knew her ammo was in the first place, she wouldn't even need my help. Doug was in serious trouble, so I chose to help him. I felt bad afterwards because Carley was more likeable at that point. She did save/assist me on many occasions in the span of a couple hours (in-game time, not play time). Doug was nice and all, but all he did was turn on some TVs across the street.

    Now... All my subsequent play throughs, I have always picked Carley. She actually makes the game easier. In episode 3, she kills two bandits after Lilly snipes the leader, as opposed to Doug's one kill. She then proceeds to clear one side of the RV when the walkers start advancing. Doug just tells you which side is in more danger (but you need to clear both by yourself). That scene took me several tries when I had Doug with me. Partly because I was still getting used to how the action scenes work, but still... Having half of it done for me is always better than "left bell! right bell!". Plus, Carley allows me to reveal my past, which in turn makes Lilly seem more of a fool when it comes time to decide her fate (don't like Lilly at all, so it's more satisfying to know I have her trump card beat in advance).

    So... yeah. There are plenty of non-shallow reasons to save Carley.
  • edited January 2013
    Doug did try to shield a window with his body however...
  • edited January 2013
    Carley cause she is a woman, simple is that.
  • edited January 2013
    Doug did try to shield a window with his body however...

    Lee : Stay away from the windows!!!

    Doug: That window is screwed

    *Later*

    Doug: ARGHH GET THEM OFF OF ME!! LEE PLEASE!!! LEE!!!

    * Doug is seen being grabbed by a zombie infested window *
  • edited January 2013
    Out of curiosity, if you save Doug over Carley, does the "stranger" tell you off for it, like he does if you save Carley ("You save the girl with the gun")?
  • edited January 2013
    Out of curiosity, if you save Doug over Carley, does the "stranger" tell you off for it, like he does if you save Carley ("You save the girl with the gun")?

    He says you let a woman die in order to hide your secret. Typically he only mentions Doug or Carley if you haven't really done anything all that bad.
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