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Who do you think was the most/least helpful group member?

ZeroShootZeroShoot
edited May 2013 in The Walking Dead
hey i'm just curious what you think about which group member was the most/least helpful.

I think Carley (if you chose her) was the most helpful member, since she saved my ass almost half a dozen times. Clem was helpful too, because she got us into some buildings like the Mansion or to the blowtorch in the station, and depending on your choices protected Omid or maybe even saved Molly.

I think Ben was the least helpful member of the group, because depending on who you blame for whose death he caused quite some. i partly blame him for 7 deaths, don't guess anyone could beat that :D
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  • MornaiMornai
    edited January 2013
    I think Ben was obviously the least helpful of the group by far. Barring him, Larry. Yeah, it must be real tiring beating that piece of wood with a rock! :mad: I'd say he was more of a drain on us than what he provided, since he had that heart condition and we had to constantly risk our lives to get medicine for him.

    I'd say Lilly was very helpful early on, since she was in the military and basically trained everyone on how to efficiently use a gun.
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited January 2013
    Carley was the most helpful - more team saves than anyone.

    Least.... I'd say Ben - even Larry could build a barricade, when he wasn't being "charming".
  • double_udouble_u
    edited January 2013
    Carley is definitely the most helpful group member. She saved so many of us.

    Definitely Ben is the most useless group member.
  • curlie-bootscurlie-boots
    edited January 2013
    I'd say either Lee or Carley was the most helpful, as Carley saved plenty of people numerous times, but Lee always seemed to be taking the most risks for everyone in the group.

    Least helpful is Ben, no doubt. He got so many people killed and didn't really do much either than that while he was with the group. Even Duck did more than him with the whole detective thing.
  • ASSASSINOASSASSINO
    edited January 2013
    Yep, Carley was the most helpful. Ben indirectly killed a buch of people so he was definitely the least helpfull.
  • Corcline27Corcline27
    edited January 2013
    Kenny was most helpful. He would go out on his own to hunt, he was always trying to think ahead, and up until his death he helps you try to find Clem. However I'm sure in a lot of play throughs it didn't happen this way. Just my PO
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Lilly, Lee, Kenny was most helpful. Lilly was teached Lee shooting, Kenny was repaired RV, and hunted in forest with Lee anf Mark.
    Ben and Duck was most useless in group. Even Katja was more helpful.
  • LauriNicoleLauriNicole
    edited January 2013
    Lee was the most helpful. I know it's because you play as him, but everyone goes to him when they want something done.

    Least helpful? Duck, but since I'm not counting kids... Ben. Self explanitory.
  • The FallenThe Fallen
    edited January 2013
    Ill go one step further than that and rank them

    Lee (if he counts, what with being you an all)
    Carley - Always stood up for others, to the grave.
    Kenny - In my playthrough anyway. He Certainly did a lot for the group.
    Molly - Lots of killing.
    Clementine - Improved a lot in the last two episodes
    Mark - Brought Food. Was food.
    Doug - Sometimes comically useless other times good
    Omid - OK
    Christa - OK
    Chuck - Helpful in his short time.
    Lilly - Initially helpfull, but murdering my 2nd place was helpful at all!
    Katjaa - Team medic, although not at all ready for it
    Glenn - Left too soon
    Duck - Mysteries.
    Larry - Does nothing good, ever.
    Ben - Does oh so much bad.


    Dont think i forgot anyone.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited January 2013
    Well, Lilly kept her own count of the supplies and took it upon herself to ration the food when it ran low. She also keeps watch from time to time, as well as making sure the group knew how to shoot.

    Mark, Kenny, and Lee, all go hunting and on supply runs for the group, which are of vital importance (while we don't actually see Mark on a supply run, he was an able body meaning he more than likely helped with those too.). Kenny also repairs the RV in his spare time.

    Carley saves Lee's life a LOT, and also does the bulk of the lookout duty. Doug helps build the barricade, saves Lee with the laser pointer, and makes that sick alarm system.

    Most of the members of the group are very helpful, but I'd have to say it's a toss up between Lee and Kenny, possibly Lilly. The least helpful is, without a doubt, Ben. Even Duck managed to lead us to the stolen (by Ben) supplies.
  • aaron1290aaron1290
    edited January 2013
    I think Brie/Ben was the most helpful because Ben told us about the fact its in our blood and Brie helped us save Omid!

    The least helpful was clementine/Carley/Doug/Lee/Kenny/Katjaa/Larry/Mark/Molly/Anybody else i missed out
  • Rommel49Rommel49
    edited January 2013
    aaron1290 wrote: »
    I think Brie/Ben was the most helpful because Ben told us about the fact its in our blood and Brie helped us save Omid!

    The least helpful was clementine/Carley/Doug/Lee/Kenny/Katjaa/Larry/Mark/Molly/Anybody else i missed out

    You're just trying to troll and looking dumb in the process. :p
  • aaron1290aaron1290
    edited January 2013
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    You're just trying to troll and looking dumb in the process. :p

    im being serious...
    YOLO and ben has Swag...
  • aaron1290aaron1290
    edited January 2013
    aaron1290 wrote: »
    im being serious...
    YOLO and ben has Swag...

    WOW! i go upstairs to watch a movie on netflix and i come back to my cousin posting stuff on the fourms... dont worry i ripped his pokemon cards. :/ i apoligise for any inconviencence caused... now i need to find all the other stuff he posted...
  • dubesordubesor
    edited January 2013
    Kenny was the most helpful. You might not always agree with him but he got sh*t done.
    As for most useless I also have to go with Ben.
  • JudeDismasJudeDismas
    edited January 2013
    Honestly, I think Larry was far more detrimental to the group the Ben, at least he realized that he was a liability and tried to make up for it. Larry, on the other hand, was personally responsible for nearly every tension with the group, and I blame him for raising Lilly to be paranoid and power-hungry enough to murder Carley/Ben.

    I mean, really, what good is a person who berates everyone and constantly threatens to kill them? At least Ben was laid-back.
  • DildorDildor
    edited January 2013
    Most helpful? Carley.

    Least helpful? I would say Larry, up until he died and actually had some use. (coins.) Ben takes the crown when it comes to being unhelpful at every turn, though.
  • k1ngMek1ngMe
    edited January 2013
    Lilly was the most helpful, easily. She was the one who handled all the rations, trained the group members to use a gun, and helped protect the motel. In fact she most likely did a lot more than just that between episode 1 and 2.
  • k1ngMek1ngMe
    edited January 2013
    Least helpful was Ben.
  • deleted_kvu58h8z1228894deleted_kvu58h8z1228894
    edited January 2013
    Most useful: Doug
    + Distracted the walkers with the remote.
    + Comic relief.
    + A soulmate(?) for Ben Paul.
    + Refused food.
    + Killed Ben Paul's zombified teacher.
    + Distracted Andy St. John with the laser pointer.
    + Fixed the camcorder.
    + Saved Ben Paul's life by dying a hero.
    Least useful: Carley
    - A pretty woman with a gun.
    I, myself, wouldn't consider Ben useless, he did give a story a very original turn of events. No one is virtually useless. Don't hate me, just consider my blind love for Doug and Ben Paul, as well as my blind hatred for Carley. Don't even try to understand my logic. I have my solid, iron reasons.
  • RSLeeRSLee
    edited January 2013
    First of all, Doug doesn't kill the zombie teacher. Doug helps out by attacking it with a plank, but he fails to actually kill it. Larry or Mark are the ones who put down the zombie if Carley's dead.

    Secondly, I fail to see how throwing away his life to save Ben was beneficial to the group. It was good of Doug, sure. But, let's face, Ben's survival didn't exactly do the group any favours.
  • CarScarCarScar
    edited January 2013
    Scolecite wrote: »
    Most useful: Doug
    + Distracted the walkers with the remote.
    Literally the only thing Doug did in a whole episode.
    + A soulmate(?) for Ben Paul.
    Ben doesn't even talk about Doug after he saved his life at the cost of his own so I'd say no.
    + Refused food.
    So does Carley.
    + Killed Ben Paul's zombified teacher.
    Actually he doesn't even manage to distract the walker. Carley, on the other hand, kills it.
    + Distracted Andy St. John with the laser pointer.
    Carley, on the other hand, distracts Andy by shooting off his ear. I like how Doug can reliably aim a laser pointer from a great distance but can't shoot a gun well.
    + Fixed the camcorder.
    The camcorder wasn't broken, the batteries were just dead. Carley gave Lee batteries as well.
    + Saved Ben Paul's life by dying a hero.
    At least Carley talked back to Lilly. Despite his "soulmate" being accused, Doug was incapable of really talking back.
    Least useful: Carley
    - A pretty woman with a gun.
    K. Can't people say they like Carley or Doug without first dissing the other one? Can't everyone just like them both? They're both good characters!
  • NukedNuked
    edited January 2013
    Most helpful would probably be Kenny: Great leadership skills. Followed by Carley. Least helpful is Ben for obvious reasons. Larry is a close second: a total prick who does nothing but bitch.
  • Chainsaw_bunnyChainsaw_bunny
    edited January 2013
    Most helpful would probably be whoever you chose to save from the Pharmacy, besides Lee himself.

    I would say Ben is the least helpful, but he was the one who told everyone that people can turn without being bitten, which has been useful information.

    It's actually tough to choose the least helpful, as everyone has done something to prove their worth.
  • leeclemleeclem
    edited January 2013
    Clem is the most helpful, not beacuse she was a killing machine, but she gave Lee hope, motivated him and gave him a goal. Without her, I think he would have died earlier, but with Clem, he had someone to fight for.
  • PlatinumbPlatinumb
    edited January 2013
    I'd say Clem was most helpful. She crawled and got everybody out of tough spots AND was able to kill walkers. She also pushed Lee to be the best he could be with leading everybody.

    Least helpful? Mark. He was an adult, but he acted like a kid. He was in the army, but he couldn't shoot the bird, was tired and weak all the time to the point Larry was the one pulling the brunt of it when it came to barricading. He also wasn't too wise when it came to dealing with the farmboys, and man was he whiny.

    Note about Ben: He was a teen and he *tried* to help. I wouldn't put as much on his shoulders as a grown adult. It's not his fault bandits were threatening and manipulating him. He might very well have been honest with Carly about what he was doing (which may have been why she defended him). Even when it came to getting the axe at the school... he was trying to get everybody out. I'm still not sure how that really worked out; I gather the zombies had gone away from the door for a bit so that he didn't see them?
  • PlatinumbPlatinumb
    edited January 2013
    [QUOTE=CarScar;761291
    K. Can't people say they like Carley or Doug without first dissing the other one? Can't everyone just like them both? They're both good characters![/QUOTE]

    Doug and Carly were both awesome for different reasons. There, I said it :p
  • Reznov68Reznov68
    edited January 2013
    Most helpful Carley dnftly.. Least one Ben or Larry D:
  • AnnaSanAnnaSan
    edited January 2013
    Most helpful:
    -Carley because she saved Lee's life twice, also Duck.
    -Clem because she was able to fit in small spaces and saved the group a lot of times.
    Least helpful:
    -Ben because when he tries to help, he just ends up messing up.
    -Mark because he didn't even do much with helping out.
  • Jaded X GamerJaded X Gamer
    edited January 2013
    I thought Carley was the most consistently helpful person. In addition to being a great shot she was also very thoughtful and gave Lee good advice. She was probably the most moral member of the group after Clementine and Doug. Her only major moral failing was wanting to ditch Irene at the Motor Inn. (Which she conceded after some prodding.)

    As much as a fuck-up Ben is, I say Larry was the least helpful. Where as Ben at least tries (and almost always fails) to help people, Larry just does whatever he wants and his few meaningful actions in the story always make things worse because of it. I also blame his shitty parenting for probably turning Lilly into a paranoid loner. I can’t imagine her ever having any friends with someone like that as a dad and eventually she probably just stopped trying with other people.

    Anyways, Larry says he’s seen someone get bitten before but doesn’t seem to realize someone has to die before they turn. Instead of just waiting like two minutes for Kat to clean a clearly still alive Duck off he makes a huge scene and makes a tense situation even worse.

    Then, after screaming about how dangerous having even a single walker in the store is, he yells at Carley for shooting a single walker that had gotten into the store. And all that yelling gives his stupid ass a heart attack even though he knew he had a heart condition and creates another goddamn problem for everyone else to deal with.

    So because of his constant assholery, Lee has to risk his ass to open the pharmacy, which sets of the alarm, which causes a big walker attack and gets either Doug or Carley killed. (And his daughter finishes off the survivor two episodes later.) Then he tries to murder the person who risked his life to save his life.

    Then, three months later, at the St. John’s Dairy, what has he learned? Nothing! He constantly screams his ass off and pounds on a door he has no chance of breaking while everyone around him tells him to shut the fuck up. To no one’s surprise, another heart attack and he makes an already god awful situation much worse!

    Seriously, Larry was a fucking idiot and a bully, and yet because of his heart condition, was almost completely fucking worthless outside of occasionally working on a wall anyone could probably maintain. And I swear Lilly was giving his fat ass extra food. While three months of hunger has everyone else complaining about hunger pains and weakness, his disposition of being a crabby dick hasn’t changed in the slightest.

    In retrospect having a huge elderly man with a heart condition and a love of yelling his ass off living with a bunch of people was also a pretty big liability. If he’d died one night when no one was around, half the group might wake up to find the other half eaten by zombie Larry. Hell, at least one useful thing Ben did was warn the others that everyone without a brain injury comes back.
  • Rommel49Rommel49
    edited January 2013
    Platinumb wrote: »
    I'd say Clem was most helpful. She crawled and got everybody out of tough spots AND was able to kill walkers. She also pushed Lee to be the best he could be with leading everybody.

    Least helpful? Mark. He was an adult, but he acted like a kid. He was in the army, but he couldn't shoot the bird, was tired and weak all the time to the point Larry was the one pulling the brunt of it when it came to barricading. He also wasn't too wise when it came to dealing with the farmboys, and man was he whiny.

    Actually, Mark was evidently Chair Force, not Army.
    Note about Ben: He was a teen and he *tried* to help. I wouldn't put as much on his shoulders as a grown adult. It's not his fault bandits were threatening and manipulating him. He might very well have been honest with Carly about what he was doing (which may have been why she defended him). Even when it came to getting the axe at the school... he was trying to get everybody out. I'm still not sure how that really worked out; I gather the zombies had gone away from the door for a bit so that he didn't see them?

    It is, however, his fault for being manipulated. It's just another of his acts of stupidity. Would anyone with an IQ above room temperature believe the guys known for rape and murder will tell the truth about having their friend, or believe that they'd honor any deal that was made?

    The hatchet at the school is unforgiveable no matter what, it's barring a blood-covered door - even worse, Ben's the one that actually hands it to Lee before they even leave for Crawford.

    He really is a reverse King Midas; everything Ben touches turns to poo.
  • ZeroShootZeroShoot
    edited January 2013
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    even worse, Ben's the one that actually hands it to Lee before they even leave for Crawford.

    On top of that it was the door through which they came into the school building, means there was no axe before, and that means, one of OUR group members put it there.
  • BenIsKindaCoolBenIsKindaCool
    edited January 2013
    Most helpful..Hmm.I think Mark.We would be dead if it weren't for him.

    Least helpful was Clem.Now,of course I love her and I always will,but if I told the bitch to stay in the fucking house,I fucking mean it.And in the end,she was the reason Lee got bit.But I have to agree,that she's motherfucking "exploring" helped us with the boat.
    Also,so much Ben hate,jeez.I guess it's understandable but still..Gawd :/
    I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't hate him

    And I think that people just don't wanna accept that they are or they have someone who's exactly like Ben-Fucks up everything he touches :)
  • ZeroShootZeroShoot
    edited January 2013
    BenIsKindaCool wrote: »
    I told the bitch to (...) she was the reason Lee got bit (...) I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't hate him

    You call a 9-year old "bitch"? lol... Quote from Lee:"I'm gonna pretend i didn't hear that..." :eek:
    Anyways: I don't hate him either, in fact I'm sad about his death, and about his past, and he's kinda nice, and a little funny sometimes, and after all he's still a kid, but it's like all he does is waiting for another opportunity to fuck up good. ;)
  • BenIsKindaCoolBenIsKindaCool
    edited January 2013
    ZeroShoot wrote: »
    You call a 9-year old "bitch"? lol... Quote from Lee:"I'm gonna pretend i didn't hear that..." :eek:
    Anyways: I don't hate him either, in fact I'm sad about his death, and about his past, and he's kinda nice, and a little funny sometimes, and after all he's still a kid, but it's like all he does is waiting for another opportunity to fuck up good. ;)

    I didn't mean to call her that, but it just seemed right that time :cool:
    Also,now I hope ZA would not happen.I am EXACTLY like Ben and I just feel like everyone's gonna hate me in The group because of The things they'll see me doing..LOL
  • HudomonkeyHudomonkey
    edited January 2013
    Everyone became a nuisance in the end...
    I mean Kenny caused fights
    Doug got close to trouble and was just too nice
    Larry had a heart problem and started fights
    Lilly became paranoid
    Clem kept running away
    Calrey couldn't use a radio
    Glenn risks his life for some girl
    Katjja doesn't handle it when the going gets tough
    Ben gets everyone killled
    Mark stirs stuff up with Larry
    Omid has an injured leg
    Christa obsesses over helping Omid
    Chuck supplies Kenny with Alcohol
    Molly gets grabbed by walkers
    Vernon and his group are traitors
    Lee risks his life for Clem too much

    Everyone is a bit useless...
  • The FallenThe Fallen
    edited January 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    Everyone became a nuisance in the end...
    I mean Kenny caused fights
    Doug got close to trouble and was just too nice
    Larry had a heart problem and started fights
    Lilly became paranoid
    Clem kept running away
    Calrey couldn't use a radio
    Glenn risks his life for some girl
    Katjja doesn't handle it when the going gets tough
    Ben gets everyone killled
    Mark stirs stuff up with Larry
    Omid has an injured leg
    Christa obsesses over helping Omid
    Chuck supplies Kenny with Alcohol
    Molly gets grabbed by walkers
    Vernon and his group are traitors
    Lee risks his life for Clem too much

    Everyone is a bit useless...

    A perfect character would be a bit dull. Most of them balance out positively.

    i did like your listing though. Loads of minor flaws then just "Ben gets everyone killed" :D
  • SeriousScarSeriousScar
    edited January 2013
    The most useful would be Clem or Carley. Clem could fit into tight spaces and open places that would otherwise be locked and Carley has saved more characters with her gun than anyone else. Least useful would be Ben followed by Kenny if you didn't help him kill Larry. I mean seriously, he just stood there and watched multiple times when I almost had my face eaten off. Forgetting I tried to save his stupid son's life and stood up to Larry for him.
  • DemopanDemopan
    edited January 2013
    Duck was the most helpful, being robin and all.
  • PlatinumbPlatinumb
    edited January 2013
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    Actually, Mark was evidently Chair Force, not Army.



    It is, however, his fault for being manipulated. It's just another of his acts of stupidity. Would anyone with an IQ above room temperature believe the guys known for rape and murder will tell the truth about having their friend, or believe that they'd honor any deal that was made?

    They actually seemed to, as they stopped attacking the motel, at least until Lee and Lilly's "exploring" caused them to not get their bag of stuff.

    Granted, I do think it would have been wise for Ben to let someone he trusted know he was being threatened and weezled by the bandits, but I have the sneaking suspicion Carley might have known.
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