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Reason of ***** Death

Daw97Daw97
edited January 2013 in The Walking Dead
As a topic, reason of Lee's death if he chopped his arm. So, what do u think, and why. Personally i think, he died of blood loss, because if u play without chopping the arm, he will pass out serveral times, and if u chop it, he will just keep going.

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  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    The bite of course.
  • dubesordubesor
    edited January 2013
    How would he die of blood loss if you don't cut his arm off?Oo There is no wound other than the bite and that one isn't deep, it barely scratched the surface. Enough for the infection to enter his bloodstream but nothing that leads to blood loss except for a few drops at most.

    He dies by gun or from the bite if you let clem leave him.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    The bite of course.

    ...and people die from loss of blood quickly and without regaining consciousness
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited January 2013
    I chopped the arm off but i still think it was the bite that Lee died off, by chopping his arm off he bought himself some extra time to save Clem.
  • gimmeseason2gimmeseason2
    edited January 2013
    he's alive >
  • Rommel49Rommel49
    edited January 2013
    Daw97 wrote: »
    As a topic, reason of Lee's death if he chopped his arm. So, what do u think, and why. Personally i think, he died of blood loss, because if u play without chopping the arm, he will pass out serveral times, and if u chop it, he will just keep going.

    He passes out before the option to amputate the arm even comes up (it's what actually prompts the choice in the first place), the infection already spread. Christa observes that amputated Lee and his two-armed alter ego are running a fever in the attic, etc... and one-armed Lee dies at the exact same time as his two-armed counterpart.
  • Rambo297Rambo297
    edited January 2013
    dubesor wrote: »
    How would he die of blood loss if you don't cut his arm off?Oo There is no wound other than the bite and that one isn't deep, it barely scratched the surface. Enough for the infection to enter his bloodstream but nothing that leads to blood loss except for a few drops at most.

    He dies by gun or from the bite if you let clem leave him.

    Read again "if he chopped his arm"
  • Rambo297Rambo297
    edited January 2013
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    He passes out before the option to amputate the arm even comes up (it's what actually prompts the choice in the first place), the infection already spread. Christa observes that amputated Lee and his two-armed alter ego are running a fever in the attic, etc... and one-armed Lee dies at the exact same time as his two-armed counterpart.

    I can agree with the first argument. But second one, as i know fever is symptom of the blood loss too.
  • dubesordubesor
    edited January 2013
    if blood loss was the cause of death he would have had to lose at least 2 liters of blood. (avg. person holds 5 liters and in general blood loss <40% isn't deadly).
    Do you guys know how much 2 liters is? There is no way he even came close to losing that much blood, especially considering they used the medical supplies (bandages+the rubber to restricted blood flow during amputation). He was losing blood for sure he was also leaking quite at the beginning but nowhere near enough.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding#Blood_loss
  • HudomonkeyHudomonkey
    edited January 2013
    He looks the same at the end of the episode whether you cut of the arm or not
    as Lee puts 'I still feel like a man who's been bit'
    He looks the same either way and it was too late
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Lee: I have no hand, because I cut it.
    Clementine: W...Why did you do that?
    Lee: Because I'm was bitten.
    Clementine: No! No no no no, it's not true!
    Lee: It's true.
  • Rambo297Rambo297
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Lee: I have no hand, because I cut it.
    Clementine: W...Why did you do that?
    Lee: Because I'm was bitten.
    Clementine: No! No no no no, it's not true!
    Lee: It's true.

    Sad but true.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Lee: I have no hand, because I cut it.
    Clementine: W...Why did you do that?
    Lee: Because I'm was bitten.
    Clementine: No! No no no no, it's not true!
    Lee: It's true.

    I mean that he died because a bite, not because of blood less.
    If the cause of his death was a loss of blood, he would have died without regaining consciousness, in the beginning of the episode.
  • Neilny91Neilny91
    edited January 2013
    Does blood loss usually make the whites of peoples' eyes turn yellow? I was just as much in denial as everybody else when he fainted while escaping the Marsh House, but then he wakes up and you see his eyes. There was no way to explain the discoloration away with blood loss for me, and i knew it was over.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Exactly! Moreover, if blood loss is critical, a man can't walk, I'm not even talking about how to fight.
  • anonymau5anonymau5
    edited January 2013
    Neilny91 wrote: »
    Does blood loss usually make the whites of peoples' eyes turn yellow? I was just as much in denial as everybody else when he fainted while escaping the Marsh House, but then he wakes up and you see his eyes. There was no way to explain the discoloration away with blood loss for me, and i knew it was over.

    I think the yellow eyes were more of a stylistic choice. Being all zombified hasn't been shown to cause eye discoloration either. Or at least, not eyes turning yellow.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    anonymau5 wrote: »
    I think the yellow eyes were more of a stylistic choice. Being all zombified hasn't been shown to cause eye discoloration either. Or at least, not eyes turning yellow.

    Yellow eyes could be because of the death of the internal organs, especially the liver.
  • dubesordubesor
    edited January 2013
    the yellow eyes are a design choice, not some sort of correct medical research. the eyes are usually the most important part of the face. altering them eg making them dark or yellow is the best design choice to let the viewer/player know the person is no longer "alive". The liver statement is true but it's quite irrelevant in this case.
  • BenIsKindaCoolBenIsKindaCool
    edited January 2013
    I would actually just say beacuse of Infection :/
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited January 2013
    By the time anyone even thought about cutting off his arm, the infection had spread too far into his body. He had already passed out because of it, so there was pretty much no hope after arriving at the morgue.
  • anonymau5anonymau5
    edited January 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    By the time anyone even thought about cutting off his arm, the infection had spread too far into his body. He had already passed out because of it, so there was pretty much no hope after arriving at the morgue.

    Well, if we're going on how quickly blood pumps through the body. He was dead the moment he told/did not tell Christa and Omid about his bite.
  • LauriNicoleLauriNicole
    edited January 2013
    It wasn't blood loss, obviously, because you have the option to not chop off his arm.

    Neither is the bite/scratch itself what kills you. It's not some super virus. The infection as a result of the bite is what does it. I thought everyone already knew this...
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    But there is quite a time frame to amputate, like they did with Dale in the comics. That were, I'd say, 15 Minutes.
  • NukedNuked
    edited January 2013
    Robbingrobin wrote: »
    But there is quite a time frame to amputate, like they did with Dale in the comics. That were, I'd say, 15 Minutes.

    Did they cut
    Herchel's leg
    in the comics or just the TV show?
  • Rambo297Rambo297
    edited January 2013
    Robbingrobin wrote: »
    But there is quite a time frame to amputate, like they did with Dale in the comics. That were, I'd say, 15 Minutes.

    So blood loss could be possible.
  • NukedNuked
    edited January 2013
    Rambo297 wrote: »
    So blood loss could be possible.

    Possibly, don't know how they even got the bleeding to remotely stop though.
  • Mafon2Mafon2
    edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    Did they cut
    Herchel's leg
    in the comics or just the TV show?

    Nah, they cut off Dale's leg. And then
    canibals cut off another
    LOL.
  • dubesordubesor
    edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    Did they cut
    Herchel's leg
    in the comics or just the TV show?

    Afaik in terms of amputation it was Hershel in the TV show and Dale in the comic. Both times the amputation happened much faster than what Lee tried; it was far too late at that point.

    Other than the immediate amputations mentioned a bite has always been lethal in this franchise.
  • chiefzackerychiefzackery
    edited January 2013
    Do you think the choice could effect the future like omid gets bit and christa would say it did not work with lee why would it work now if you did not quick cut it off we need to try

    Blood loss he did not pass out
  • MornaiMornai
    edited January 2013
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    He passes out before the option to amputate the arm even comes up (it's what actually prompts the choice in the first place), the infection already spread.

    Indeed, this is pretty much the main reason that shows he did not die of blood loss.
  • AnnaSanAnnaSan
    edited January 2013
    He did lose a lot of blood, but I think it was mainly because of the bite because they cut his arm off right after he started showing symptoms, which means it was already in his bloodstream. So cutting off his arm just made him not pass out, I thought it could've atleast gave him more time but I still got the same result on both playthroughs =.=
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited January 2013
    i think if you leave the arm the massive infection in the bite kills Lee, but if you cut it off the infection in his blood and his weakened immune system (blood loss,pain and stress) kills Lee, either way it is the blood poisoning from the bite that kills him
  • kevinStarkkevinStark
    edited January 2013
    At the end you cult here his berating stops slowly. Same like duck. The begin of becoming a walker!
  • RustyRifle11RustyRifle11
    edited January 2013
    Daw97 wrote: »
    As a topic, reason of Lee's death if he chopped his arm. So, what do u think, and why. Personally i think, he died of blood loss, because if u play without chopping the arm, he will pass out serveral times, and if u chop it, he will just keep going.

    u got that backwards buddy. if he chops off his arm dont u think he should pass out more from blood loss versus if he kept his arm on?
  • kevinStarkkevinStark
    edited January 2013
    I think he chopped his hand far too late to save him from becoming a walker.
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