What was Lee Everett's sentence?

edited January 2013 in The Walking Dead
Was he convicted of murder or manslaughter and was he on his way to death row or just normal prison,i don't think the game ever specify's although i could be wrong on that.

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  • edited January 2013
    "You're a convicted murderer." - I think it was probably Carley who said that. And other characters at one point. I don't think that Lee had a death sentence, because he was rather... unexcited about the whole ride. As far as we know, he killed the state senator, but despite the position of that person, it's just a single person.

    That guy in Norway killed about 80 people and is still alive and well.
  • edited January 2013
    "You're a convicted murderer." - I think it was probably Carley who said that. And other characters at one point. I don't think that Lee had a death sentence, because he was rather... unexcited about the whole ride. As far as we know, he killed the state senator, but despite the position of that person, it's just a single person.

    That guy in Norway killed about 80 people and is still alive and well.

    Norway has no death sentence at all, the US do. That's a whole other thing, he might or might not have gotten the death sentence.
  • edited January 2013
    You don't get a death sentence in the US for just one murder, especially under the circumstances of Lee's murder.

    He probably got 15 years to life in prison.
  • edited January 2013
    It depends. Normally he would get convicted for second degree murder but it differs from state to state. Georgia laws apply and there is no such thing as 2nd degree murder.

    He could have gotten anything from Life with parole after min 30 years over Life without parole up to the death penalty.

    I doubt killing your wife's spouse in the heat of finding them in your bedroom would give him the death penalty in Georgia, so most likely he got Life.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_punishments_for_murder_in_the_United_States#Georgia
  • edited January 2013
    What dubesor said. There's enough mitigating circumstances that a court won't pass a death sentence. There's also a good possibility that Lee could have pled guilty too, so that's another factor.
  • edited January 2013
    He murdered the son of the senator of the state, I think he was given a life sentence.
  • edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    He murdered the son of the senator of the state, I think he was given a life sentence.

    No, just the state senator, not the son of him.
  • edited January 2013
    No, just the state senator, not the son of him.

    Really? Damn, Russian interpreters translated that he murdered the son of a Senator.
  • edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Really? Damn, Russian interpreters translated that he murdered the son of a Senator.

    I thought there were no official translations into other languages?.. Interesting.
  • edited January 2013
    Let's just say the sentence was enough to ruin his life. Even if he got the lowest sentence possible, he is 37 and would be minimum 67 before getting parole - which I doubt he would have gotten but let's just say he did. That means he comes out an old man with a piddly ~8 yrs left to live. (avg US male life expectancy is 75).
    So yea, his life was pretty much over regardless of the specific circumstances.
  • edited January 2013
    I thought there were no official translations into other languages?.. Interesting.

    You right. But the must popular translation of the game on Russian was maded by Tolma4 team, and they have translated that Lee had murdered the son of a senator.
  • edited January 2013
    I always assumed he was going to his trial. Although, I know nothing about the legal system.
  • edited January 2013
    Lee was a convicted murderer, was tried, and was sentenced to life in prison. He was on his way to the prison he would spend his remaining days in, coincidentally the same one Rick Grimes and his group would come to occupy, when the police car went off the road. The rest is history.
  • edited January 2013
    Yeah Carley mentioned he got a life sentence.
  • edited January 2013
    A life sentence for murder? Gosh, US laws are severe :-|.
  • edited January 2013
    Mafon2 wrote: »
    A life sentence for murder? Gosh, US laws are severe :-|.

    It's better than the 20 year sentences they give in France.
  • edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    It's better than the 20 year sentences they give in France.

    Why? In the US, you get life sentence and never you never get out again. In France you are just there for 20 years.
  • edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    It's better than the 20 year sentences they give in France.

    In Russia, Lee (if account his crime as murder in affective state) probably could have ended with 3 years (maximum) of freedom limitation or jail (for judge to decide). With the right to get a release after half of the term. We here don't care for human lifes :-|.
  • edited January 2013
    Why? In the US, you get life sentence and never you never get out again. In France you are just there for 20 years.

    Not all murders are a life sentence. 25 is the fewest you can get in the US for 1st/2nd degree murder. In France 20 is the most you can get. I prefer murderers being locked away.
  • edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    I prefer murderers being locked away.
    I prefer 'em dead, I mean they killed at least one person cold blooded, Lee's case is different he did not do it on purpose it was an accident, but if someone just walks upon some random dude and shots him in the face I think it's the closest thing to justice to give him the death sentence.
  • edited January 2013
    ZeroShoot wrote: »
    I prefer 'em dead, I mean they killed at least one person cold blooded, Lee's case is different he did not do it on purpose it was an accident, but if someone just walks upon some random dude and shots him in the face I think it's the closest thing to justice to give him the death sentence.

    That never happens without one of them having psychological issues. If this happens I don't want the murderer to get the death sentence. I want him to get proper help.
  • edited January 2013
    ZeroShoot wrote: »
    I prefer 'em dead, I mean they killed at least one person cold blooded, Lee's case is different he did not do it on purpose it was an accident, but if someone just walks upon some random dude and shots him in the face I think it's the closest thing to justice to give him the death sentence.

    Lee wanted to kill the senator. It was in the heat of the moment, but he did it, and it was wrong. He knew about the affair. So it could easily be understood as murder by the law.
  • edited January 2013
    Mafon2 wrote: »
    In Russia, Lee (if account his crime as murder in affective state) probably could have ended with 3 years (maximum) of freedom limitation or jail (for judge to decide). With the right to get a release after half of the term. We here don't care for human lifes :-|.
    Lee wanted to kill the senator. It was in the heat of the moment, but he did it, and it was wrong. He knew about the affair. So it could easily be understood as murder by the law.

    Falls under second degree murder.
  • edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    Falls under second degree murder.

    I am just saying it wasn't an accident.
  • edited January 2013
    I am just saying it wasn't an accident.

    According to Lee it was.
  • edited January 2013
    Maybe he struck with anger, he didn't strike with the intention to kill, but it did. i.e. when you're really mad, sometimes you don't know you're own strength. maybe he pushed the senator near a glass window, and the guy fell out and down to his death, for example.
  • edited January 2013
    Riadon wrote: »
    According to Lee it was.

    Yeah, I did not formulate that correctly. I meant, it could be avoided, by speaking to his wife and saying he knew about the affair.
  • edited January 2013
    Carley says he got a life sentence.
  • edited January 2013
    Since he said he knew about the affair, the court could have decided that it was pre-meditated, and it also got bumped up to 1st degree murder because of the high-profile victim.
  • edited January 2013
    Riadon wrote: »
    According to Lee it was.
    If you intend to hurt someone and you end up killing then it's second degree.
  • edited January 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    Since he said he knew about the affair, the court could have decided that it was pre-meditated, and it also got bumped up to 1st degree murder because of the high-profile victim.

    Took the words right out of my mouth.
  • edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    Not all murders are a life sentence. 25 is the fewest you can get in the US for 1st/2nd degree murder. In France 20 is the most you can get. I prefer murderers being locked away.

    Something to also keep in mind is that just because someone gets a life sentence in the U.S., doesn't mean they actually serve it. Standard thinking being that it just isn't worth it to continue keeping some guy in his 60's - 70's behind bars (particularly with the overcrowding in U.S. Prisons). To an extent, it's why the majority of death penalty sentences become life sentences - it's more expensive to execute a guy (what with all the appeals, etc.).

    I prefer a system that works. France has both a lower recidivism rate and murder rate than the U.S. Insofar as actually mitigating crime goes, the U.S. system sucks pretty hard.
  • edited January 2013
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    Rock114 wrote: »
    Since he said he knew about the affair, the court could have decided that it was pre-meditated, and it also got bumped up to 1st degree murder because of the high-profile victim.

    If i remember correctly, Lee said he came back to his house after canceling class and his wife was sleeping with the senator.
  • edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    :mad:

    If i remember correctly, Lee said he came back to his house after canceling class and his wife was sleeping with the senator.
    "It was an accident. I mean, I pretty much already knew about the affair..."
  • edited January 2013
    CarScar wrote: »
    "It was an accident. I mean, I pretty much already knew about the affair..."

    Is this during his conversation with the creep?
  • edited January 2013
    Nuked wrote: »
    Is this during his conversation with the creep?
    Nope, it was with Carley while walking to the St. John dairy.

    Here's the whole conversation (from memory):

    Lee: "Well... not everyone thinks I'm so trustworthy."
    Carley: "Because of your past? Does anyone else know?"
    Lee: "Larry knows."
    Carley: "Great, that can't be easy."
    Lee: "Clementine... might know. She was there when we were talking in the drugstore and asked me about it. I lied to her but..."
    Carley: "What exactly did happen with the senator?"
    Lee: "It was an accident... I mean, I pretty much knew about the affair."
  • edited January 2013
    CarScar wrote: »
    Nope, it was with Carley while walking to the St. John dairy.

    Here's the whole conversation (from memory):

    Lee: "Well... not everyone thinks I'm so trustworthy."
    Carley: "Because of your past? Does anyone else know?"
    Lee: "Larry knows."
    Carley: "Great, that can't be easy."
    Lee: "Clementine... might know. She was there when we were talking in the drugstore and asked me about it. I lied to her but..."
    Carley: "What exactly did happen with the senator?"
    Lee: "It was an accident... I mean, I pretty much knew about the affair."

    If that statement of Lee is true it would mean maybe he tried to beat him up, hurt him or toss him out of the window etc and he died as a result of that.

    that would most likely have been considered voluntary manslaughter if the jury+judge believed him. So either way it's either (second degree) murder or voluntary manslaughter conviction.
  • edited January 2013
    dubesor wrote: »
    If that statement of Lee is true it would mean maybe he tried to beat him up, hurt him or toss him out of the window etc and he died as a result of that.

    that would most likely have been considered voluntary manslaughter if the jury+judge believed him. So either way it's either (second degree) murder or voluntary manslaughter conviction.
    It's true, that's assuming the jury and judge believed him. The fact that the game made it a senator that Lee killed seems to insinuate that some corruption occurred in the trial. Biased, if you will.

    I'd imagine defense of provocation would work nicely in this case, assuming Lee played his cards right. Although, as stated by the game, Lee got a life sentence.

    "This is your parent's store; folks around town know the owner's son got himself a life sentence..."
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