Not killing both of the ST Johns brothers is the wrong choice...
A majority of players chose to spare Andy ST John after they had previously killed Danny ST John. I think the choice to spare Andy is the wrong choice because there is no reason why he couldn't have escaped,it's not like he was trapped in a room,he was out in the open, plus there are weapons around the farm if he needed any, but another reason i chose not to spare him was because if he survived he will be obviously wanting revenge for the death of his mother and brother and he knows exactly where to go to find you. I know alot of people decided to not kill Andy because they were scared of what Clem would think after seeing her reaction to the death of Danny, but people have to remember that at the end of the day she is still a 8 year old little girl who doesnt always know or understand what is best for whereas Lee is a grown man who needs to do what is best for Clementine whether she agrees or likes what has to be done. Any thoughts?
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Besides, I gave Andy a chance, he did not used, I understand why, because he lost his entire family, Andy just fell to his knees and began to wait for his death. It was very dramatic.
True but when you make the choice to spare him you have no idea that he was most likely going to accept his death
The final scene at the diary farm is a really good scene.
Yeah For what its worth i think that even if Andy is spared he does get eaten because as you say he was a broken man but for me personally i could not take that chance,i had to make sure he would never come back.
It's awesome
It is an awesome scene as is his death scene, the voice actor for Andy is awesome aswell.
That is awesome. I love the Linda Hostage situation to the last scene of the dairy, all is sooo dramatic and well done.. I just cant get enough of this game!
Who the fuck is Linda?
But you never see Andy get eaten, he could easily escape and what if he was to save Danny and then they both come for some revenge. They were evil men who for me anyways could not be allowed to live because of the threat they posed not just to me and my group but to any other survivors out there.
He meant Brenda.
Linda was one of the bandits in the forest who was killed by Carley or Lilly in ep 3
It was a well done scene and I think shows alot about how we think and what we see as being more morally correct.
Yeah that was pretty much my line of thinking aswell.
It's the same argument as whether or not Kenny's dead - no, they did not explicitly show the zombies tearing his insides out, but it doesn't really feel necessary. The overall effect of both Kenny and Andy's last scenes are that they knowingly accepted their deaths, in my opinion. It's much more dramatic and emotional than just showing zombies chewing at their intestines.
I really just wasn't worried about them by the time it was over. We took their rifles, their mom got zombified, Danny's stuck in a bear trap. I wasn't worried about revenge either because the St. Johns chief weapon was deception. Now that we know who they are they wouldn't be able to get close to the Motor Inn without losing their head.
I wasn't too worried about other survivors either because I figured the bandits would probably finish the St. Johns off. If they were still dealing with those people they're probably not going to make their payment and if not then Bandits will probably just ransack the place and kill the brothers now that the fence was broken and their was only two slightly less armed people left.
Mostly I just wanted to go home already.
Good point but i'd be scared that they could end up like the stranger, and we both know how badly he screwed the group over
My cousin actually thought the guy on the radio was Andy St John since he didn't kill him. That'd be a horrible ending. Lee bursts into the Marsh House only to find Andy eating what's left of Clementine. :eek:
Tell me about it, thats why i had to make sure he was dead by killing him myself!
Maybe killing them is merciful, personally I'd love to watch them get torn to shreds by walkers but I'm satisfied knowing they are dead.
Koi is right though, they pretty much are defeated. I doubt even if everything went well for them that between the incoming walkers and the bandits they would present much of a threat to anyone anymore.
But you don't see the walkers getting in until AFTER you make the choice, at the time when you leave him you have no reason to think he'll die shortly anyway.
Thank you! I have seen way too many people say "the walkers would have gotten him anyway". They don't have psychic powers. They didn't know the walkers would come and get him if they left him.
There's no reason not to think they wouldn't. There are a minimum of two gunshots fired, and they're a decent distance apart from each other. That's plenty of time for walkers to arrive. It's also proven that they're already in the vicinity before the fight begins(one walks up to the fence before being taken down with an axe or something by Carley, unsure in Doug's case). On top of that, we already know they can topple the fences if enough of them pile onto it.
What do you think Andy's immediate goal would be if spared? Charge after Lee and his group of several armed adults, go searching for his zombified mother(i doubt he would be able to kill her upon recognition, at least initially), search for his brother who is in a trap with no release latch(and may already be dead/walker) or quickly get gas to the generators so the walkers don't get in.
He has the potential to be shot in the ear(?) and either severely beaten or(in my case) electrified on the fence. That would probably put him into a somewhat weakened state, and with walkers already in the area it makes sense that he'd die before he could recover. On top of that he doesn't see Danny or Brenda, only what Lee says(They're dead/They're not coming). He would probably look for them to try to save them, and likely be killed by them.
When I had to decide what to do with Danny, I offed him right away. He was still a threat in a beartrap, he could have shouted and warned his brother, gotten loose and found a gun etc. He was a threat. I neutralized that threat.
When I had to decide what to do with Andy, he wasn't a threat anymore. He was defenseless. I decided that I don't do senseless murders. It's not like a walker more or less will make any impact on everyday life. What will make an impact on everyday life is the whole group watching me killing someone where it's not required.