Should we have told Clementine about her parents?

edited January 2013 in The Walking Dead
While I was playing I, like many it seems, avoided telling Clementine that her parents were probably dead. Now I know telling her doesn't really effect anything in the plot, but if this were happening in real life, do you think it would be better to tell her the truth?

I mean, on one hand, we don't know for sure that her parents are dead, and the possibility that they may be alive seems to give her some hope.

On the other hand, she does several dangerous things trying to find her parents, and it seems wrong to lie to her about something so important.

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  • edited January 2013
    JudeDismas wrote: »
    While I was playing I, like many it seems, avoided telling Clementine that her parents were probably dead. Now I know telling her doesn't really effect anything in the plot, but if this were happening in real life, do you think it would be better to tell her the truth?

    I mean, on one hand, we don't know for sure that her parents are dead, and the possibility that they may be alive seems to give her some hope.

    On the other hand, she does several dangerous things trying to find her parents, and it seems wrong to lie to her about something so important.

    I would tell her about the message on the answering machine and let her interpret that in her own way.
  • edited January 2013
    Riadon wrote: »
    I would tell her about the message on the answering machine and let her interpret that in her own way.

    ^ This. It was a shame we were never able to tell her about the messages.
  • edited January 2013
    I tried not to give Clem false hopes. I basically always silent in conversations about her parents, I wanted that Clementine understand it by her ownself, but I never told her that they are dead and it's time to forget about them because it's a brutally. Have you noticed that the Clementine took the death of parents easier than death....well, you know who I'm talking about?
  • edited January 2013
    She had accepted her parents death, but the Stranger gave her false hope
  • KoiKoi
    edited January 2013
    Out of curiosity, what does she say if you do tell her they're dead? I mean, the way I see it, it seems like the only reason the stranger was able to get a hold of her was because she thought her parents were alive, and when the stranger said that he had them, she believed him more easily. But if Lee already told her that they were dead, how would that have played out?
  • edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    I tried not to give Clem false hopes. I basically always silent in conversations about her parents, I wanted that Clementine understand it by her ownself, but I never told her that they are dead and it's time to forget about them because it's a brutally. Have you noticed that the Clementine took the death of parents easier than death....well, you know who I'm talking about?

    I don't know, on some level she knew they were probably dead but on another she refused to completely accept it. If you tell her point blank you can't look for her parents because they're dead she insists they're not and starts crying. She's also still asking about them when you get back from Crawford if you didn't take her with you.

    Dealing with the loss of a family member is incredibly difficult for most adults, I don't think Clementine truly believed her parents were dead until she finally saw them in person. One of the first things she says after Lee's wakes up is "They're dead for sure." If she had already accepted their death I don't think she would have said that.
  • edited January 2013
    Koi wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what does she say if you do tell her they're dead? I mean, the way I see it, it seems like the only reason the stranger was able to get a hold of her was because she thought her parents were alive, and when the stranger said that he had them, she believed him more easily. But if Lee already told her that they were dead, how would that have played out?

    "They're not dead!"

    "Do you... want them to be?"

    *cries*

    At least that's how I remember it.
  • edited January 2013
    Riadon wrote: »
    "They're not dead!"

    "Do you... want them to be?"

    *cries*

    At least that's how I remember it.

    After this replica:
    Lee: You think we have a good plan?
    Clementine: I think it's very good... Can I tell my parents...you know...
    Lee: ... *silence * (it's my variant)
    Clementine: They like it, promise.

    Now I understand with whom she wanted to talk.
  • edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    After this replica:
    Lee: You think we have a good plan?
    Clementine: I think it's very good... Can I tell my parents...you know...
    Lee: ... *silence * (it's my variant)
    Clementine: They like it, promise.

    Now I understand with whom she wanted to talk.

    I don't understand what she wanted to tell them that she can shoot about how he murdered idk
  • edited January 2013
    I don't understand what she wanted to tell them that she can shoot about how he murdered idk

    Me neither, I personally thought that she wanted to let them know how Lee had taken care of her.

    They should have given it a bit more context.
  • edited January 2013
    I don't understand what she wanted to tell them that she can shoot about how he murdered idk

    About all what happened from the moment of their last radiocommunication (when Lee and Kenny returned from the drugstore at the beginning of the episode).
    About attack by motel, about Carley/Doug, about what Lee has done with Lilly... and about that they go to Savannah by train.
  • edited January 2013
    Telling Clem her parents are dead would have probably been a good choice. She'd have to accept it, unlike that part in episode 3. If she did, she would have never talked to the Stranger on the radio about finding her parents.
  • edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    About all what happened from the moment of their last radiocommunication (when Lee and Kenny returned from the drugstore at the beginning of the episode).
    About attack by motel, about Carley/Doug, about what Lee has done with Lilly... and about that they go to Savannah by train.

    He had no contact due to radio with her. They were just faked.
  • edited January 2013
    "I know its just pretend" She had at the end of ep.1 Damn stranger
  • edited January 2013
    "I know its just pretend" She had at the end of ep.1 Damn stranger

    No, she had not. Walkie Talkies don't reach from Macon to Savannah.
  • edited January 2013
    I believe Clementine knew, to a certain extend, that her parents are more than likely dead. Especially after she saw the state Savannah and Crawford were in.

    She just doesn't want to believe it and was hoping against hope. Seeing is believing... and sadly she saw the truth for herself.

    I try not to tell her about her parents... I'm just not sure how to break it to her without breaking her heart! :(
  • edited January 2013
    I wanted to tell her directly that, but she cried when I told her :\
    I wished there was an option to tell her what her parents said in the answering machine, or let her listen to it herself.
    I guess it was sorta my fault too because I keep on giving her false hope, but what the Stranger did, manipulating her mind because she was naive was way worse >:0
  • edited January 2013
    AnnaSan wrote: »
    I wanted to tell her directly that, but she cried when I told her :\
    I wished there was an option to tell her what her parents said in the answering machine, or let her listen to it herself.
    I guess it was sorta my fault too because I keep on giving her false hope, but what the Stranger did, manipulating her mind because she was naive was way worse >:0

    Seems like it was obvious that the parents were dead from the answering machine's messages? How did people tell? I didn't even hear any commotion in the background, only that the call was cut off which I assumed was because the line or electricity was cut off. :confused:

    I thought the crying from the mother was because she knew of the situation of their hometown and was worried sick about Clementine. :(

    But on hindsight, her cracking up was also because she knew the end was coming and she was wishing against all hope that her daughter could still be or would be alive... I guess I'm too dense to make that out... :(
  • edited January 2013
    AnekiGX wrote: »
    Seems like it was obvious that the parents were dead from the answering machine's messages? How did people tell? I didn't even hear any commotion in the background, only that the call was cut off which I assumed was because the line or electricity was cut off. :confused:

    I thought the crying from the mother was because she knew of the situation of their hometown and was worried sick about Clementine. :(

    But on hindsight, her cracking up was also because she knew the end was coming and she was wishing against all hope that her daughter could still be or would be alive... I guess I'm too dense to make that out... :(

    I don't know about you, but I heard a shit load of zombie moaning in the background of her last call.
  • edited January 2013
    AnekiGX wrote: »
    Seems like it was obvious that the parents were dead from the answering machine's messages? How did people tell? I didn't even hear any commotion in the background, only that the call was cut off which I assumed was because the line or electricity was cut off. :confused:

    I thought the crying from the mother was because she knew of the situation of their hometown and was worried sick about Clementine. :(

    But on hindsight, her cracking up was also because she knew the end was coming and she was wishing against all hope that her daughter could still be or would be alive... I guess I'm too dense to make that out... :(

    "Ed had accident with some guy at the motel" - or something like that, that's reason why were they at hospital.
  • edited January 2013
    AnekiGX wrote: »
    Seems like it was obvious that the parents were dead from the answering machine's messages? How did people tell? I didn't even hear any commotion in the background, only that the call was cut off which I assumed was because the line or electricity was cut off. :confused:

    In the first message, the mother tells the babysitter they are delayed because the father got attacked by a crazy guy, which suggest that a walker got him during the early days of the outbreak.

    In the third message, you hear heavy automatic gunfire in background as the mother desperately tells Clem to call the police for help. The gunfire in the background suggests that where her mother was, the walkers were about to overrun the military or police guarding it (similar to the WABE "sign off").
  • edited January 2013
    double_u wrote: »
    In the first message, the mother tells the babysitter they are delayed because the father got attacked by a crazy guy, which suggest that a walker got him during the early days of the outbreak.

    In the third message, you hear heavy automatic gunfire in background as the mother desperately tells Clem to call the police for help. The gunfire in the background suggests that where her mother was, the walkers were about to overrun the military or police guarding it (similar to the WABE "sign off").

    And you could hear very distinct walker groans as she was telling Clem that they love her. The call was obviously an attempt to say goodbye because they assumed they weren't going to make it.

    Yeah, I wish I could have told her about it at some point, rather than just saying "they're dead. Move on." like an ass. Give her proof and she might have actually listened and knew the stranger was up to something.
  • edited January 2013
    well you have the options to tell her they're most likely dead, but I couldn't do it, because hope is important, think of what she's been through, she saw the saltlick thing, she went through the human slaughterhouse to open the meatlocker's door, etc. She needs something that keeps her going, she keeps Lee going, the thought of her parents being alive keep her going, at least that's what I figured.
  • edited January 2013
    Rambo297 wrote: »
    "Ed had accident with some guy at the motel" - or something like that, that's reason why were they at hospital.
    double_u wrote: »
    In the first message, the mother tells the babysitter they are delayed because the father got attacked by a crazy guy, which suggest that a walker got him during the early days of the outbreak.

    In the third message, you hear heavy automatic gunfire in background as the mother desperately tells Clem to call the police for help. The gunfire in the background suggests that where her mother was, the walkers were about to overrun the military or police guarding it (similar to the WABE "sign off").
    BlackBoxx wrote: »
    And you could hear very distinct walker groans as she was telling Clem that they love her. The call was obviously an attempt to say goodbye because they assumed they weren't going to make it.

    Yeah, I wish I could have told her about it at some point, rather than just saying "they're dead. Move on." like an ass. Give her proof and she might have actually listened and knew the stranger was up to something.
    Thanks! I didn't hear the groans and the gunfire. I should try out again. :)
  • edited January 2013
    I wouldn't tell her outright "your parents are dead" because that would be a blatant lie. Sure it's a very high possibility(and they ended up being dead anyway) but if you don't know for sure you can never give up hope. Either way, she probably would have refused to believe it until she saw them herself unless you constantly hammered it in.

    I probably would have told her about the message too, if given the chance. I think the closest you can get to it is a line beginning with "I think i heard them die..." but I've never heard it, and aren't sure what you need to do to get it.
    No, she had not. Walkie Talkies don't reach from Macon to Savannah.

    False. The stranger's car is shown in Atlanta in the beginning of the game, thus he could have been in Macon when talking to her(likely since he drives his car to Savannah in the end).
  • edited January 2013
    No, she had not. Walkie Talkies don't reach from Macon to Savannah.

    The walkie talkie started working when they were going near Savannah right? Even then they barely get a signal and you can barely understand what he was saying o .o
  • edited January 2013
    AnnaSan wrote: »
    The walkie talkie started working when they were going near Savannah right? Even then they barely get a signal and you can barely understand what he was saying o .o

    It started working at the end of ep 2 when Carley/Doug gives Clem batteries(which was the reason it stopped working). What the stranger says at the end of ep 3(nearing Savannah) implies that he's already talked to her and tried to convince her to find him as well.
  • edited January 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    It started working at the end of ep 2 when Carley/Doug gives Clem batteries(which was the reason it stopped working). What the stranger says at the end of ep 3(nearing Savannah) implies that he's already talked to her and tried to convince her to find him as well.

    Oh yeah, I remember start of episode 3 she was holding it and it looks like she was talking to someone :o I guess its possible .-.
  • edited January 2013
    No, she had not. Walkie Talkies don't reach from Macon to Savannah.

    I mean she knew they were dead then he restored her belief
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