It's not impossible for a kid to drag a grown adult by the legs along the ground.
For some reason everyone thinks Clem somehow just tossed Lee over her shoulder and carried him like that but it's more likely she just dragged him along the ground.
Zombies would have ignored them for the most part so she would have had a lot of time to drag Lee to safety.
Is this even possible? We all know Clem was already protected from the zombies due to the stench on her clothes, but for a little girl to drag a fully grown man off the street, even if we assume the store was only a few feet away at the time Lee fainted...
Is this even possible? We all know Clem was already protected from the zombies due to the stench on her clothes, but for a little girl to drag a fully grown man off the street, even if we assume the store was only a few feet away at the time Lee fainted...
People can do incredible things when the adrenaline is flowing,its possible but would take a long time and im pretty sure Clem said it took her a long time to do it.
People can do incredible things when the adrenaline is flowing,its possible but would take a long time and im pretty sure Clem said it took her a long time to do it.
Even for someone that's reasonably fit, just moving someone that's roughly your own weight is pretty damn hard when they can't assist - adrenaline or no.
It's not for nothing "dead weight" is an expression.
If she tried to lift Lee, yeah, I could see that taking an age and a half. However, if she was doped up on adrenaline (highly likely) and she simply dragged him, it wouldn't take that long.
I'm more curious how she managed to avoid drawing attention to herself long enough to get Lee to safety. Walkers don't drag things unless they have to pull it closer to eat it. That should have been a stand-out action... Plot hole... or unexplained phenomenon?
There are many reports of people doing impossible feats if they have to safe their loved ones. Lifting cars and such stuff. Your body is capable of amazing things, but stops you from performing them so you don't injure yourself in the process. The so called hysterical strength can bypass that for a short time.
I'm rather irritated about the fact BlackBoxx mentioned. Strength or not there were pretty many zombies. Why didn't they react? Who knows...
I wondered that myself, but decided to ignore that impossibility. There's no way she could have dragged him on her own power on asphalt... maybe if it were a smoother surface.
I'm more curious how she managed to avoid drawing attention to herself long enough to get Lee to safety. Walkers don't drag things unless they have to pull it closer to eat it. That should have been a stand-out action... Plot hole... or unexplained phenomenon?
Perhaps they thought she was one of the walkers with severed legs who drags themselves around. They're obviously not, but maybe the walkers would be too stupid to tell the difference. If they can be fooled by a mere smell, they can probably be fooled by many other things as well.
I know that Lee blacked out, but maybe he was still conscience enough to maybe stumble/crawl with her leading? That's what I kind of thought about it. He collapses, Clem starts pulling on him, he kind of crawls along, she guides him, gets him inside, and has to close the door up behind her.
I don't know if you ever tried it but dragging people isn't that hard really.
Usually, it's easier than dragging objects of the same weight, not sure why but it is.
I don't know if you ever tried it but dragging people isn't that hard really.
Usually, it's easier than dragging objects of the same weight, not sure why but it is.
It's because of armpits and feet. No seriously. Objects you would move by dragging are too large to carry, so you can more easily overcome the frictional force they have with the ground than you can their gravitational force. The only problem is getting a good grip. Try moving a couch and you may have to try a few things to get a grip that you won't lose in 2 seconds. But a person has armpits which provide an easy grip where both hands are nicely spaced apart. If that doesn't work, grabbing their feet allows even more options since they are more flexible. You can lift, widen and tighten the space between your hands as you see fit without losing grip ability.
It's like the Mythbusters episode where they wanted to see if you really could throw a dead body around as easily as they do in the movies, and like BlackBoxx said, because of the leverage the shape of the human body gives you, it really was that easy.
They did it first with a 150 lb weight, and it was hard, but a 150 lb artificial human cadaver was simple. They went through an obstacle course where they dragged it up and down stairs, threw it through a window, rolled it up in a blanket, and threw it into the boot of a car. Both Adam and Jamie were able to do all that in under two minutes.
So, I'd recon a girl Clementine's size should be able to drag a 150-200 lb unconscious man into a garage in 5-10 minutes or so (remember the zombies were completely ignoring her and Lee because of their smell, even after Lee hit one with his shoulder, so they wouldn't be a problem).
guys,it's really easy:
she tried,found out she wasn't strong enough,whistled,a few of our friendly neighborhood walkers helped her,then they went back to roaming...
but seriously:
if you notice lee didn't look that bad before the final faint but after they got to the jewelry store he looked real shi-tty,that could suggest there was a long time between him fainting and waking,so it probably took clem a long while to drag him
The jewelry store was probably right next to the spot where he fainted and Clem slowly dragged Lee without getting noticed by the walkers. Also, plot holes.
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The phrase "true love" generally refers to sexual attraction. Thus, using the phrase "true love" in reference to a sort of parental love is incredibly creepy.
The phrase "true love" generally refers to sexual attraction. Thus, using the phrase "true love" in reference to a sort of parental love is incredibly creepy.
This isn't always the case. For example, they used the term true love to refer to the love Snow White's daughter had for her son in Once Upon a Time.
Hey hey hey guys , the phrase "True love" I mean love to the daughter of his father. Nothing criminal. How...h-how you even can think about another meaning of this phrase??? I'm in shock.
How you can defile it is a wonderful feeling of parental love such terrible thoughts?
The phrase "true love" generally refers to sexual attraction. Thus, using the phrase "true love" in reference to a sort of parental love is incredibly creepy.
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For some reason everyone thinks Clem somehow just tossed Lee over her shoulder and carried him like that but it's more likely she just dragged him along the ground.
Zombies would have ignored them for the most part so she would have had a lot of time to drag Lee to safety.
Seriously, my nine year old can do that. Lifting on the other hand is not really possible.
People can do incredible things when the adrenaline is flowing,its possible but would take a long time and im pretty sure Clem said it took her a long time to do it.
Even for someone that's reasonably fit, just moving someone that's roughly your own weight is pretty damn hard when they can't assist - adrenaline or no.
It's not for nothing "dead weight" is an expression.
I'm more curious how she managed to avoid drawing attention to herself long enough to get Lee to safety. Walkers don't drag things unless they have to pull it closer to eat it. That should have been a stand-out action... Plot hole... or unexplained phenomenon?
I'm rather irritated about the fact BlackBoxx mentioned. Strength or not there were pretty many zombies. Why didn't they react? Who knows...
Perhaps they thought she was one of the walkers with severed legs who drags themselves around. They're obviously not, but maybe the walkers would be too stupid to tell the difference. If they can be fooled by a mere smell, they can probably be fooled by many other things as well.
Usually, it's easier than dragging objects of the same weight, not sure why but it is.
It's because of armpits and feet. No seriously. Objects you would move by dragging are too large to carry, so you can more easily overcome the frictional force they have with the ground than you can their gravitational force. The only problem is getting a good grip. Try moving a couch and you may have to try a few things to get a grip that you won't lose in 2 seconds. But a person has armpits which provide an easy grip where both hands are nicely spaced apart. If that doesn't work, grabbing their feet allows even more options since they are more flexible. You can lift, widen and tighten the space between your hands as you see fit without losing grip ability.
They did it first with a 150 lb weight, and it was hard, but a 150 lb artificial human cadaver was simple. They went through an obstacle course where they dragged it up and down stairs, threw it through a window, rolled it up in a blanket, and threw it into the boot of a car. Both Adam and Jamie were able to do all that in under two minutes.
So, I'd recon a girl Clementine's size should be able to drag a 150-200 lb unconscious man into a garage in 5-10 minutes or so (remember the zombies were completely ignoring her and Lee because of their smell, even after Lee hit one with his shoulder, so they wouldn't be a problem).
But,I suppose she was able to handle it.
But yeah, adrenaline for sure. We also don't know how far the store was from where Lee collapsed. It might have been a short distance.
she tried,found out she wasn't strong enough,whistled,a few of our friendly neighborhood walkers helped her,then they went back to roaming...
but seriously:
if you notice lee didn't look that bad before the final faint but after they got to the jewelry store he looked real shi-tty,that could suggest there was a long time between him fainting and waking,so it probably took clem a long while to drag him
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Yeah, that's not creepy at all.......
You're right, it isn't.
Maybe that could of been phrased better, but the point still stands and I fully agree with it
The phrase "true love" generally refers to sexual attraction. Thus, using the phrase "true love" in reference to a sort of parental love is incredibly creepy.
How you can defile it is a wonderful feeling of parental love such terrible thoughts?
Now, if Lee was her father and you had said "true love" I..... probably would have seen it the way you meant it.
Let's just mark it down to misunderstanding via phrasing and move on.
Is it really matter in that situation? Ok, Lee was AS her father, and Clem LOVED him as her own father. End of story
I said I already understood what you were trying to say.
Everyone knows what he meant.