How about someone like Ben as a new Protagonist?
Ben 2.00 as a new protagonist in Season 2.
The game will force you to decide between the most moronic solutions. Which stupid way would you choose? Something like that.
The game will force you to decide between the most moronic solutions. Which stupid way would you choose? Something like that.
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Perhaps you play as someone who screws up bad and causes a death, and you have to live with that and how people treat you about it throughout the episodes.
If Telltale felt like trolling the fans, this would definitely be a good way of going about it.
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You should give Mass Effect 2 a try. Or watch "Mass Effect 2 Bad Ending: Everyone dies" to see someone try to mess up in every way possible.
This protagonist would be world-savvy enough to survive, but not inherently looked to as leadership material. They would be old enough to be a big sister/firm friend with Clementine's character, who herself would have aged at least a few years.
Not necessarily that he would be cowardly initially, but the same age, in that awkward area where he was a boy by "society's" definition, but with everyone dying or dead and live people few and far between, he's forced/allowed to be a man. I think that would be an interesting storyline in and of itself.
Most people I know had awkward teen years between 16 and 18, where they're still considered kids or even looked down on, even though they were becoming adults and trying to find their way in the world. (Which was part of the reason I kept Ben alive until the very end. He was a boy who was having to become a man, with no idea how to do it.)
I suggested that he be paired with a 30-ish woman, who would be the protagonist. (Again, I already made a big long suggestion post, if you're that interested in my idea, search through my posts lol xD).
I think that would be best for Clementine, if we go with the theory that season 2 will be leading up to the people in the field, who are the people we would have played as in season 2, meeting her.
If we have another male protagonist, Clem might feel like she's betrayed her real father and Lee if she grows to look at him as a father figure, too. Whereas if she's meeting a woman about her mom's age, she wouldn't have too hard of a time. (Just like she didn't have too hard of a time falling for Lee.)
But I'm definitely all up for having a Ben-like character in season 2, hopefully one who does stuff right. lol
It'd be funny if in the next season they set-up something like that for the player where you can take something useful but inadvertently fuck up something and get blamed for it. I remember in episode three I immediately went into the RV, grabbed the pencil and triggered Lilly's escape scene. I hadn't even looked at the train yet so I thought I had just screwed us all over.
instead of the silent option you always have the choice to say "my dad was special forces"
Lmfao, that's good
Maybe like Molly, but without the Parkour
^Ice for that burn? lol Ben killer!
and stays 10 years old forever? LOL
Everytime he meets someone new he fucks it up and they end up leaving xP
Press Y to: cut off his leg
Press X to: faint
Press B to: run away
Press A to: ...
Fixed.
On topic, I know this started as somewhat of a joke, it would be interesting playing as someone meeker and more vulnerable next season. Lee was both strong and fairly smart so his well being wasn't a big issue through most of the game, it was generally other people you were worried about. It's probably most obvious with the food decision in episode two where keeping a piece of food for Lee was the least picked option, probably because we all knew how strong could be. Imagine if you played as someone too weak to fight back without food. It'd make choices like that a lot harder.
It could maybe even work as a bit of role reversal from the parental theme in the first season. Instead of a parental figure you might play as a relatively child like figure who needs help from people and is resented by others for it. It'd be tricky, but if done right it might make for quite the unique experience.
Either that or your character absolutely fails and gets many of your group killed, becoming a liability to the group and maybe a detriment for awhile after. Maybe be able to prove yourself later on, but never be what you would have in the first choice.
Or maybe a third option where you failed in decision making, and preparing yourself for the hardships to come, you aren't able to kill walkers when they attack your friends, are overpowered by a walker and get seperated by the group, and by the end are killed by a horde. Maybe just before sacrifice yourself to allow others to escape survive, seeing that you made it back briefly.
I wouldn't like a Ben character, like seriously by the end I'd hope suicide was an option. But this I think would be pretty cool, and would allow for a branched story. Or if Telltale couldn't do that, have those you save if you are the better version get killed off in unsavable situations (like Ben). Then you'd still have the same arc. Then your character could disappear instead of die. Your fate unknown :P
Hilarious!
well i'd give it a miss (if it was free then yeah i'd play it) but i hAtE ben so much..
if they did that the game would be funny for the first few times but then it'll be lame, boring and dumb.
if we know going in he/she going to be a total retard, it removes the mystery..
and in some way i don't think it'll do ttg 'street cred' any good either..considering all the complaints people threw out of their prams about the first season.
why go from a serious dark game and turn it into a clown show with walkers ?
Aw, c'mon now. I can't be the only person on this thread that liked Ben! lol I admit, he fucked up a lot, a LOT, and me and the hubby had a disagreement on the issue. (I think I actually guilted him into saving Ben on accident lol.) He was a kid in a society that told him he was a kid. The ZA hit and he was a good kid with absolutely no preparation whatsoever.
I get that months passed and that he was a coward, but I think he was trying to find out what it was to be a man, in a group where he was still treated like a kid (through his own doing), where he felt resented and unwelcomed.
I also saw the value (and this sounds bad and probably is bad, but it's true) in having a boy around Clem's age. Give them a few years. She's 15 and he's ...what? 24-ish? Not at all kosher nowadays, but in the ZA, finding yourself a mate is going to be difficult. It would be a lot less disturbing than say, Lee or Kenny (or someone in that age group) dating her.
I hope for a younger character like Ben, but with balls, even if she's a chick. lmao
I think forum regulars know I hate Ben.
For me, the "he's just a kid" argument doesn't fly. He's seen crazy crap at the gymnasium when Jenny went walker on them, his camp raided by bandits, his teacher's leg get chopped off as walkers swarmed them, cannibals at a farm, etc. Just how much more does a person need to toughen up?
Fact of the matter is, no one was prepared for a ZA. Sure, some would cope better than others like trained soldiers who still have to watch their own buddies turn. But in a universe where zombies don't even exist in their fiction, a lot of people are basically starting at the same spot. Heck, any sort of collapse of civilization is a new experience for pretty much anyone living in the First World. In other words, Ben isn't some special snowflake.
I also hate Ben's whining about how he doesn't know what happened to his parents, and therefore he was allowed to be an emo-screw up. Guess what? So did others. For instance, Carley didn't know what happened to her family and she was one the most stable and valuable members of the group. When Ben snapped at Kenny at Savannah, I wanted to slap him in the face.
And Ben ain't a little kid. If he wanted to improve himself and prove that he could be useful, maybe he could ask for help back at the motor inn. Ask Lee or Kenny for advice. Ask Carley to teach him how to shoot. He has to take some responsibility.
And to betray the people that saved your life by giving the bandits supplies? Unforgivable.
My final assessment of Ben is that he is an incompetent coward and a leech. He's willing to live off the group but incapable and often unwilling to give back.
As for your comment about Clem and Ben being, um, mates...yeah, just no. I'm not gonna touch this one.
Really? So, lemme ask you? Does that mean you didn't forgive Clementine for doing almost exactly the same thing? She betrayed an entire group of people who had been taking care of her for months because a mystery man on her radio, whom she knows nothing about, claims to have her parents (but offers no proof), so she decides to run off with him when Lee says there isn't time to look for her parents and almost everyone dies in the process of saving her from an obvious kidnapper.
And I never get tired of Ben telling Kenny off. The man had become almost as bad as Lilly for a while. He wanted to ditch Omid after he was injured getting rid of the tanker that blocked the way. He wants to ditch Molly after she saved his life. If you don't "have his back" he'll want to ditch Lee too and by extension Clementine. For me it's always worth it to drag the kid along just because he finally helps Kenny realize he's not the only one suffering from this.
Are you comparing the mindset of Clem and Ben? Why?
Did I feel betrayed? Yes. Did I forgive her? Yes. Comparing Ben and Clem doesn't work, because unlike Ben, Clem is actually a child-a first grader- whose psychology hasn't reached the level of maturity to completely understand her actions.
Just because an action is similar does not make their mentality similar.
You're the one who said the "jut a kid argument" didn't fly for Ben because he had already seen so much fucked up shit. But it flies for Clementine because she's younger, even though she's seen and understands pretty much all the same shit Ben has and demonstrates a level of mental maturity close to if not greater than Ben?
Their "mentality" was the same. Someone clearly not trustworthy tells them they have their loved one and they did something really stupid because their desire to save the people they care most about overwrote their common sense (albeit in Ben's case he probably didn't have a lot of that to begin with). Clementine understood what she did was wrong afterwards. I know because when you get her back she says the exact same thing Ben said after the bandit raid.
"I'm sorry."
As far as I'm concerned, Ben and Clem were both kids who needed protecting and a good parental figure to guide them. The biggest difference was Clem had a good guardian with Lee, Ben was mostly on his own.
but clem had a radio, she wanted her parents to be ok she did NOT steal from the group...
as you say clem shows more maturity then ben she shows some smarts ben only showed some smarts when he rages on kenny...
a lie with minimal consquences is nothing compared to open betrayal and stealing meds..
yes the group or who ever is on lee's side go after clem, but did she go willingly ? why was her cap left who's blood was on the ground.. why was the walker hidden ??