I wonder if they will make Clementine talk to Lee in season 2

edited March 2013 in The Walking Dead
We all know Telltale has taken a couple ideas that are part of the comic i.e when Lee and Clementine, like Glenn and Rick realize that they could walk through hoards of zombies without being mauled if they smear zombie blood on themselves. I wonder if in season 2 if Clementine talking to Lee would be another. Like Michonne did with her boyfriend and Rick with his Wife after they died. Maybe be a way for her, *and a few of us out there in denial* to have a moment to part with Lee.

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  • edited March 2013
    I doubt she could handle that. It would probably be like seeing her parents: She would freeze in terror upon spotting walker Lee, unable to move a muscle, then he would devour her.
  • edited March 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    I doubt she could handle that. It would probably be like seeing her parents: She would freeze in terror upon spotting walker Lee, unable to move a muscle, then he would devour her.

    No, it wouldn't be zombie Lee. It'd be hallucination Lee. Like she imagines he is there to give her guidance and advice, to console her and help her through tough decisions. Kinda like a Reznov to Mason type-relationship in Black Ops - Black Ops 2. Her mind imagines him to deal with the pain his death caused. A 'projection' if you will.

    I've thought about it before, but I never mentioned it. I think it'd be awesome if they could do that. It'd confuse many people if they could do it right. You could have "Lee" help Clementine make decisions, and help deal with things, give them a light atmosphere. That right as her decisions would be affected by your choices in season 1, it's basically Lee giving her the ideas/motivation. You might see her whispering to nothing, or going off on her own at times. You might attempt to figure out what is going on, and you will slowly get hints as to who or what she's been talking to.

    And have a really freaky jumpscare/twist that as Clementine would be having an imaginary discussion with "Lee", the real Lee jumps out and attacks her as a walker(depending on your choices). Then you'll have to convince her Lee's dead and to finish him (she is the one with a weapon) and hearing kinda like a distorted "Lee" also try to help her. OR maybe to convince her otherwise, to join with him :P.

    It could satisfy the purpose of having a death/living scene, or just a highly emotional one where Clementine finally accepts Lee's death and is able to overcome it. Maybe she'll still encounter his hallucination from time to time, but she is able to realize it's not really him. She'll also be able to get closer to the PC character.
  • edited March 2013
    OBI WAN LEE. "I will be with you always"
  • edited March 2013
    OBI WAN LEE. "I will be with you always"

    LMAO that isn't what I mean't :S. HAHAHAHAHA I can see Lee in robes now xD.
  • edited March 2013
    If anything like that were to happen, I think she's hallucinate her parents before Lee. She only knew Lee for like 4 months, and while she did care for him, he didn't replace her feelings for her mom and dad. After all, it was the hope that she could reunite with her parents that caused her to sneak off with the stranger that caused the events of the finale
  • edited March 2013
    BlackBoxx wrote: »
    If anything like that were to happen, I think she's hallucinate her parents before Lee. She only knew Lee for like 4 months, and while she did care for him, he didn't replace her feelings for her mom and dad. After all, it was the hope that she could reunite with her parents that caused her to sneak off with the stranger that caused the events of the finale

    But in scary and sad moments she would rather talk to him, since he taught her how to use guns, and gave her advices, and so on...
  • edited March 2013
    Yes!! i love that idea! we can make clem become a controlled Irene. and we have a choice to kick her out with someone else?
  • edited March 2013
    So this "Halleecination" would kind of be the angel on her shoulder, providing guidance and advice?
    Perhaps she may even just have flashbacks to the guidance we gave her as Lee in Season 1?
  • edited March 2013
    So you'd basically play as a ghost? I'm not sure how practical that would be.
  • edited March 2013
    Alguno de aquí incluyendo a Telltalle ha visto un muerto fresquecito (no me refiero a uno atropellado sino en combate o en el momento del evento), la verdad no creo que ninguno (Yo estuve en las líneas cumpliendo mi deber y vi muchas cosas), es verdad ver un muerto produce alucinaciones se graba en la mente, pero no te paraliza, si fuera el caso de Clementine nunca se paralizo la prueba está en el inicio del juego hasta el final, ahora que se aparezca como fantasma o ángel no creen que es un poco fuera de lugar, Lee probablemente se desmayó o falleció por la pérdida de sangre por cortarle el brazo a menos que no se lo cortaran pero es otra historia, lo que puede ser real es que no confié en nadie, la abandonaron, nadie estuvo cuando necesitaba apoyo.
    Si aparece un personaje que tenga prácticamente la mentalidad de Lee sería más real incluso lo tomaría como figura Paterna una mezcla entre su Padre y Lee, porque sus Padres tal vez querían a la niña pero su no simpatizaban en gustos eso es bastante claro y Lee pretendía tenerle afecto, si integras un personaje con las características en la cual realmente la precia, sea un adulto o un adolecente, recupera su espíritu de lucha, su humanidad y lo más importante su felicidad.
  • edited March 2013
    Well maybe not as a ghost, zombie or hallucination. I was thinking along the lines of a scene, or several scenes of her talking to Lee and her hearing Lee talk to her. Kinda like with Rick with the phone. Although the hallucinations of Lee would be an interesting choice. but I'm not so sure if we would like that idea throughout the whole season. maybe the first episode
  • edited March 2013
    Signs of Clem growing crazy?

    Uh-oh.
  • edited March 2013
    By hallucinations I mean Clem mysteriously whispering to herself, or trying to interact with nothing. You as the player don't see 'Lee' until the very end, when walker Lee attacks. Then you realize what was happening.
  • edited March 2013
    So you'd basically play as a ghost? I'm not sure how practical that would be.

    You wouldn't play as 'Lee'. You'd play as the PC chosen, and look after Clem. 'Lee' is a figment of Clem's mind to help her cope.
  • edited March 2013
    I really hope TellTale do deliver something emotional like this. TellTale have the potential to do so, so if they do I hope they do it right:)
    Here's some sort of scenario I would like to experience during Season 2: Assuming you play the role of Clementine, I would like to have a moment were Clementine is still becoming attached to a new group of survivors she encountered, possibly through confronting the two silhouettes in the Countryside. Anyway, these 'Strangers' have set up a temporary camp at an abandoned Farm House or Barn and are sat beside a fire. Clementine wanders off into the wooded area nearby still questioning the safety of the camp and the strangers. Clem sits beside a tree, her pistol in hand. She repeatedly loads, readies and unloads her pistol to get used to it. She also begins to aim down the sights to get comfortable with a pistol once again as she did on the Train with Lee in Episode 3. As she does this a dark shadow looms behind her. She hears footsteps and aims her gun. She places her finger on the trigger and before she fires the silhouette enters the moonlight and it is seen to be 'Lee'. The two converse as if Lee was physically there beside her. She speaks of her new allies and apologizes for what happened to Lee as she feels responsible. The conversation finally concludes with dialogue similar to the conversation Lee and Clem share as he pushes her on the swing at the St John's Dairy. "Don't Worry... We're Safe Here"... Clem begins to tear up and wipes her eyes, before she says something she looks up to see Lee has vanished. Suddenly a Zombie emerges from the brush and attacks Clem...
  • That sounds fucking good ! lol I'd like to see that in season 2 it could be interesting and it would be good to see Lee again :)
  • edited March 2013
    Traumatic hallucinations aren't a good way to grant closure with loved ones.
    Outside of dreams, the most I could see her doing is having another solemn make believe talk to console herself, like she first did with her parents on the radio.

    "Never stay in the same spot for long.. Right Lee?"
  • edited March 2013
    What if she use the walkie talkie to converse with Lee like her parents. Asking Lee things like what would you do in this situtation or telling him her thoughts/worries.
  • edited March 2013
    What if she use the walkie talkie to converse with Lee like her parents. Asking Lee things like what would you do in this situtation or telling him her thoughts/worries.

    Dude, that'd be super creepy. You as the PC watching Clem talk to you(basically) over the walkie talkie. I'd be like "uh, wut?"
  • edited March 2013
    The walkie is gone. Either it's on Lee's pant pocket in some abandoned jewelry store, or it's left in the hotel room with the dead stranger. Glenn never came back to Macon to give her the other one, so.... Yeah, it's gone for good.

    I still say this kind of thing is a bad idea. She trusts Lee, yes, but she always held her parents in higher regards. Lee's death hurt her, yes, but it was more because it meant she was all alone. Her parents have a much bigger influence on her life. Their deaths hurt her even more.

    I wouldn't mind hearing an echo of the advice Lee gave Clementine as she does something, but even then, it wouldn't add anything beyond spelling out to the player that "you taught her this". We already know what we taught her. Besides, season one made a point of telling us when something could potentially affect the future. It didn't remind us when it actually happened. Saved Clem in the pharmacy? "She will remember that". When she brings it up again, it didn't say "see? She remembered what you did?".

    But, it is what it is.
  • edited March 2013
    I could see her talking to Lee on the radio, like she did with her parents. All imaginary pretend stuff. But I very much dislike the idea you posted. Too blatant rip off a completely different character...
  • edited March 2013
    No one said it had to be the walkie from before. Could be a new one.
  • edited March 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    Dude, that'd be super creepy. You as the PC watching Clem talk to you(basically) over the walkie talkie. I'd be like "uh, wut?"

    Creepy is what I thought. Can you see the conversation between the group about Clem talking to Lee over the walkie. Even more so if she made choice after consulting the radio/Lee.
  • edited March 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    Dude, that'd be super creepy. You as the PC watching Clem talk to you(basically) over the walkie talkie. I'd be like "uh, wut?"

    PC: "Hey, Clementine! Who ya talking to?"
    Clem: "Just a friend"
    PC: "A friend? Well, where is this 'friend' you're talking to?"
    Clem: "Oh, don't worry about that, i killed him before he turned into a walker."
    PC: "O_O"

    I wouldn't be as creeped out if she did that than if an adult did it, since she's only 9 and has an active imagination. Still eerie, though... I'd take the "slowly step backwards" dialogue option.
  • edited March 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    PC: "Hey, Clementine! Who ya talking to?"
    Clem: "Just a friend"
    PC: "A friend? Well, where is this 'friend' you're talking to?"
    Clem: "Oh, don't worry about that, i killed him before he turned into a walker."
    PC: "O_O"

    I wouldn't be as creeped out if she did that than if an adult did it, since she's only 9 and has an active imagination. Still eerie, though... I'd take the "slowly step backwards" dialogue option.

    LMFAO!!!

    It made me remember the "I thought about dropping a hammer on your head" dialogue and Lee's face O_o "Hmm... that's nice." ROFL.

    Either that or...

    PC: "This friend... is he safe? Can we go looking for him? Where is he Clementine?"
    Clem: "He's where the walkers can't get him. He's safe there." *Trails off into space*
    PC: *Waiting* "..... well... where? Maybe we can go and get your friend? I'm sure it's safer here."
    Clem: "Lee can't go anywhere, it's best if we keep moving. He'll be okay..."
    PC: "Well... did you say Lee? I thought he was caring for you? And if he's safe, why can't he leave? The walkers? Does he need help?"
    Clem: "He's just handcuffed to a radiator. I wouldn't bother him. He always sleeps, and if not he only talks to me. He doesn't trust other people, but he wants me to stay safe."
    PC: *Started to back away when Clem said 'handcuffed' "O-okay Clem... I understand. I'll talk to your later okay sweetie? Tell Lee I said 'hi'..."

    All that night PC is O.O

    LMAO. Thank you for the laugh Mornai, Idk why but that made my day, thank you haha. And no, I think Clem doing it would creep me out more, just because it'd be basically her talking to another you. I'd be so freaked out by that lol. Like "Okay Clem... stay over there now... I'm sure Lee's a nice guy...". I'd love Clem to have visions and all of Lee, and kind of relive past situations, such as seeing past walkers that grabbed her/walkers grabbing her and "Lee" save her like before, kind of like "Lee" is still there, protecting Clem as always ^_^. Ghost/Obiwan Kenobi style :P

    But through the walkie talkie? I'd be more scared she was talking to another stranger, and then hearing nothing on the other end but her talking to a "Lee" would just go "Well... that figures..." lol.
  • edited March 2013
    BTW Clementines should talk to Lee. She loved him and she had to kill him or let him dead.
  • edited March 2013
    also Lee make her learn how to live in this new life shes got live in, not her parents.
  • edited March 2013
    It would actually be a very touching moment if the new PC were to come across one of Clem's drawings, and see a crude picture of Lee chained to the radiator.
  • edited March 2013
    It would actually be a very touching moment if the new PC were to come across one of Clem's drawings, and see a crude picture of Lee chained to the radiator.

    If by touching you mean mournfully tragic, then yes.
  • edited March 2013
    Mikejames wrote: »
    If by touching you mean mournfully tragic, then yes.

    A little bit of both, I'd say.
  • edited March 2013
    I think it would be pretty neat to have him sort of like an angel on her shoulders. I picture her stressing over what to do next, and then imagining his voice helping her. That would be sweet. I'd love to see it.
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