[SPOILERS] Bring back Lilly..

..so I can kill that b*tch. Please.

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  • edited April 2013
    ..so I can kill that b*tch. Please.
    Please let me help.
  • edited April 2013
    Hahahaha.
  • edited April 2013
    Well okay, but you guys better leave the head intact cause i have first dibs on killing the zombie Lilly. :p
  • edited April 2013
    ^Will do, but I'd like to watch. I also expect something creative! :)
  • edited April 2013
    Take your hands away from her!
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    Lilly was an awesome character, but I don't want to see her again. Then I can at least imagine that she's the Lilly from the comics. (Even if Kirkman wrote the Road to Woodbury novel.)

    Besides, I think I would grow bored with Lilly's character now that Lee and Kenny are both dead.
  • edited April 2013
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Lilly was an awesome character, but I don't want to see her again. Then I can at least imagine that she's the Lilly from the comics. (Even if Kirkman wrote the Road to Woodbury novel.)

    Besides, I think I would grow bored with Lilly's character now that Lee and Kenny are both dead.

    I'm sure she'll find other people to argue with and other innocents to shoot in the back.
  • edited April 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I'm sure she'll find other people to argue with and other innocents to shoot in the back.

    Her character was originally written to be the same as someone whose only actions were exactly that. :p
  • edited April 2013
    Im sure shes hypocriting it up elsewhere. But what if Zombie Kenny walks cross country just to get Lily.
  • edited April 2013
    Im sure shes hypocriting it up elsewhere. But what if Zombie Kenny walks cross country just to get Lily.

    You really think that a zombie Kenny will just so happen to walk across Georgia just to kill Lilly? Don't be ridiculous. That's impossible.

    ...because he's still alive. <- (is still in denial)
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    Because Kenny isn't a hypocrite at all. -rolls eyes-
  • edited April 2013
    I hope Kenny gets to shut her ass up for good in S2.
  • edited April 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    You really think that a zombie Kenny will just so happen to walk across Georgia just to kill Lilly? Don't be ridiculous. That's impossible.

    ...because he's still alive. <- (is still in denial)

    hahaha I see what you did there (troll face)
  • edited April 2013
    She's fair game to bring back, but it wasn't intended in the first place so I wouldn't assume she'd get a big role, but who knows? I would hope to get an option to react objectively to her though, considering the relationship would be a clean slate.
    Because Kenny isn't a hypocrite at all. -rolls eyes-

    Oh Kenny, you fair-weather friend you.
  • edited April 2013
    He kinda was, wasn't he? Oh well, he died well. Let's just keep him there with his face chewed off.
  • edited April 2013
    And keep Lilly where she can't shoot someone. That or lead them to ruins.
  • edited April 2013
    At least he pulled his head out of his ass by the end and realized how he'd been acting. And tried to make up for it, unlike a certain someone who had to wait until nobody was looking to make her move...
  • edited April 2013
    Redemption is a big theme I'm guessing. Ken let fear kill someone that nobody knew if they were really dead. Fear brought Lilly to kill someone she perceived as a threat as well. If you see it from their PoV that is.

    But Kenny is a 'bro' so we can't hold that against him.

    If Lilly gets a chance to redeem herself (i.e. coming back and protecting Clementine with her life while the new protagonist is unable to get there in time). I'm pretty sure people will change their opinions of her enough to not want to shoot her with flaming arrows up the arse.
  • edited April 2013
    If she saves Clem, she's forgiven. Until then, I'm lighting the arrows.
  • edited April 2013
    Eh... yeah... you're right. Regular arrows will work just fine! Lighted arrows are too good for her :D
  • edited April 2013
    She kills the Governor after realizing how evil he is
    Isn't that enough redemption.
  • edited April 2013
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    She kills the Governor after realizing how evil he is
    Isn't that enough redemption.

    Well, officially the Lilly in the game is not the same Lilly in the comics, so the Lilly in the game has done nothing to redeem herself(yet).
  • edited April 2013
    Semantics, Mornai. I still lie to myself that game Lilly is also comic Lilly, so I'm taking Yami's side here.
  • edited April 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    Semantics, Mornai. I still lie to myself that game Lilly is also comic Lilly, so I'm taking Yami's side here.

    Me too, but i can't forgive Lilly(her comic version is even less redeemable than game version anyway).
  • edited April 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    Me too, but i can't forgive Lilly(her comic version is even less redeemable than game version anyway).

    Not really, the Governor is one manipulative douche. I don't have any blame for Woodbury. Lilly and Martinez especially
  • edited April 2013
    She thought Rick and his group were savages hell bent on slaughtering everyone in Woodbury. The Governor made her, and everyone else in the town, believe that the prison group was evil. If she had known Lori was just a mother trying to get her infant daughter to safety, she wouldn't have pulled that trigger. She only shot because she truly thought that Rick, Lori, and the rest were evil. And when she realizes what happened, she kills the Governor. I'd say that she gets her redemption in the end, just like Kenny, and just like Lee.
  • edited April 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    She thought Rick and his group were savages hell bent on slaughtering everyone in Woodbury. The Governor made her, and everyone else in the town, believe that the prison group was evil. If she had known Lori was just a mother trying to get her infant daughter to safety, she wouldn't have pulled that trigger. She only shot because she truly thought that Rick, Lori, and the rest were evil. And when she realizes what happened, she kills the Governor. I'd say that she gets her redemption in the end, just like Kenny, and just like Lee.

    If we compare the game Lilly(who kills an armed adult because she believed that said person was a traitor and then immediately regrets it(as some say she did)) to the comic Lilly(
    who kills a woman and the infant child she was holding because she believed that they were evil and a threat
    and then immediately regrets it), i would say the comic version is worse, regardless of what she does afterwards.
  • edited April 2013
    I don't harbour much, if any, ill-will towards comic Lilly.

    Because to be honest,
    I was actually pretty glad to see Lori die. She'd been annoying the whole way through.
  • edited April 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    If we compare the game Lilly(who kills an armed adult because she believed that said person was a traitor and then immediately regrets it(as some say she did)) to the comic Lilly(
    who kills a woman and the infant child she was holding because she believed that they were evil and a threat
    and then immediately regrets it), i would say the comic version is worse, regardless of what she does afterwards.

    I was thinking she didn't even know there was a child there though, thus not knowing there was a mother either. While this of course doesn't make what happened right, I think it does earn Lilly the benefit of the doubt and maybe even some sympathy. She pretty much got herself killed over it it seems
  • edited April 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    If we compare the game Lilly(who kills an armed adult because she believed that said person was a traitor and then immediately regrets it(as some say she did)) to the comic Lilly(
    who kills a woman and the infant child she was holding because she believed that they were evil and a threat
    and then immediately regrets it), i would say the comic version is worse, regardless of what she does afterwards.
    Depends if she knew she was shooting the Judith as well, I always thought that she just shot Lori having no idea she was carrying the baby, hence the reaction when she realised. That baby being the trigger to make her see the lies from the Governor. Which leaves her a redeemable figure for me

    Its irrelevant though since they're not the same person. Game Lilly for me crossed the moral event horizon when she murdered Carley, I personally don't buy the supplies story one bit, much more than the attempt on Ben the version with Carley was spiteful and viscous. Post apocalypse, betrayal of a group member like that, with awful justification is in my opinion pretty much the worst thing you could do.

    There is no act that could ever earn my forgiveness, certainly not for something she hasn't done :p. Anyway frankly She could cure the zombie plague and still need to pay for her past in my eyes.
  • edited April 2013
    She didn't know Lori had a kid, she just thought Lori was a savage murderer who was runnign away to continue to kill another day because of the lies fed to her and all of Woodbury by the Governor. She didn't see the kid, so she shot. When she saw the kid, she obviously regrets it immediately and turns on the Governor. If she had known Lori was carrying an infant, she never would have pulled the trigger. It was just an unfortunate, needless tragedy brought about by the Governor's quest for vengeance.
  • edited April 2013
    Exactly. Rock114 is quite right here. She just shoots a woman whom she believes have been trying to murder all her friends.
    You all seem to be quite judgmental here, gosh.
    In the end redemption is far more important than the sin itself.
    A quote from the bible will be quite in place here I believe "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her".

    Everybody makes mistakes. In an apocalypse the moral rules are no longer relevant, not all at least. Sometimes it is either us or them.

    As for Game Lilly not being Comic Lilly... well, I don't buy that. Because who said that? The all mighty Kirkman? The man who let Telltale create an amazing character who was Comic Lilly, so that he could retcon it and create a far worse version of that character, all that so he could sell his stupid book.
    Game Lilly was created to be Comic Lilly no matter what Kirkman says. She is the true comic book Lilly.
    As my dear friend Kiel555 told me, game Lilly fits into the shoes of comic book Lilly far better than book Lilly ever will be.
    In the end, the choice is individual.

    As for whether Lilly will return or not, I believe that Telltale won't use her ever again. If they use her again, that means their character can no longer be connected to comic book Lilly, and regardless of the fact that Kirkman retconned them, she was designed to be comic book Lilly, so she is.

    Damn, that post feels so random. I'm sorry folks, I'm too tired to type or think in a coherent manner.
  • edited April 2013
    I just don't buy it. I still connect the two Lilly's because they are similar and were mean't to be the same person, and considering she makes the same mistake twice, I don't see much reason to forgive. Also, in the game she blatantly calls Lee a murderer to everyone even if Lee always had her back, and it hurts his friendship with Kenny. If you weren't the best to her and you talk to her in the back, she talks about how she thought about shooting you in the back -_- TWO FOR TWO. I'd be surprised if Kenny wasn't on her hit list.

    She has just gone too far, and I feel in that retrospect I cannot and will not forgive her. She'd have to do some incredible feats for it, and that would be out of character. I love her character, I love to hate her, but I couldn't like her as a person in the video game.
  • edited April 2013
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    As for Game Lilly not being Comic Lilly... well, I don't buy that. Because who said that? The all mighty Kirkman?

    Yes, he said that. Why you doesn't like it? Don't you understand that Lilly from comics are DEAD? She was in dead trap with horde of walkers in prison, with out ammo. No chanses to survive. That's why I really like that Robert Kirkman confirmed that Lilly from game, and from comics are not same characters. So, it turns that you like that she's die? How can you calling yourself "Lilly fan" after this???

    Lilly from comics are DEAD.
    Lilly from game - her fate is unknown
  • edited April 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Yes, he said that. Why you doesn't like it? Don't you understand that Lilly from comics are DEAD? She was in dead trap with horde of walkers in prison, with out ammo. No chanses to survive. That's why I really like that Robert Kirkman confirmed that Lilly from game, and from comics are not same characters. So, it turns that you like that she's die? How can you calling yourself "Lilly fan" after this???

    Lilly from comics are DEAD.
    Lilly from game - her fate is unknown

    The Lilly from the comics is also "unknown". The prison reportedly has a huge supply of food, so they could have holed up in there and then gotten out at a later date.

    Kirkman himself stated in a letter hacks that he won't say whether or not she is alive, but it's unlikely the main group will ever see her(or rest of group) again.
  • edited April 2013
    I think Lilly died at the prison, because, really, that place was done for. I can't remember if Rick's crew cleared it out completely or not, but the sheer amount of walkers, coupled with the Woodbury soldiers having virtually no ammo by the point the Governor dies, really doesn't paint a very hopeful pictue for them.
  • edited April 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I think Lilly died at the prison, because, really, that place was done for. I can't remember if Rick's crew cleared it out completely or not, but the sheer amount of walkers, coupled with the Woodbury soldiers having virtually no ammo by the point the Governor dies, really doesn't paint a very hopeful pictue for them.
    Kirkman kind of alludes to them all dying, having them run out of ammo as they were getting boxed in by a shit ton of walkers.
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