If Kenny is alive, what would the best way to reintroduce him in into Season 2

As above, what is the most realistic way to have Kenny back in Season 2.

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    He escaped the dark room by managing to find a door, or got out of the alley by managing to get into the sewers.
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    Agreed with above. It seems like there are sound problems occasionally in the alley scene at least. On some videos I've seen, Ben's final line is cut short by the gunshot, in others you can clearly hear him finish speaking after the shot. Also sometimes you hear a "bite" sound when Kenny holds back a walker with his arm and sometimes you don't hear anything.

    If he WAS bitten, i think an interesting way to bring him back would be for our new group to stumble upon him unconscious after cutting his arm off. We could patch him up and save his life, and offer him a place among our ranks. He could tell us how he got there, what happened after the alley/dark room scenes and hear pieces of his ordeals in Season 1 as the episodes go on. We could see some examples of him trying to adjust to living without his family, and seeing him protecting others more often and caring for them, something he rarely did in Season 1.
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    I think bringing Kenny back is one of the better ways to make your choices have some affect in Season 2, by the way I wonder if Telltale knew that a lot of people would believe Kenny is alive, or is it by accident.
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    I think bringing Kenny back is one of the better ways to make your choices have some affect in Season 2, by the way I wonder if Telltale knew that a lot of people would believe Kenny is alive, or is it by accident.

    I think they knew, and probably wanted it to happen. Just like the shadowy figures at the end of episode 5, they want to make people speculate. If they wanted no doubt that Kenny died, they would have shown us his death directly(like Carley/Doug) or his corpse afterward(Katjaa/Chuck).
  • edited May 2013
    the most realistic way to have Kenny back in Season 2.

    In remembrance.
  • edited May 2013
    As an half-eaten corpse, walking or not.
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    Gavin Hammon, Kenny's VA, said that originally the alley scene was different, namely in that it was very clear that Kenny had been killed. They changed it, and made Kenny more somber (which lends more support to the fact that he died), but they also apparently made it more ambiguous as to whether he got out ok or not.

    Kenny is probably the best character that can come back in Season 2 to make our choices matter, since he was there with Lee from the beginning almost to the very end. The only NPC to make it farther than Kenny was Clementine herself. Having Kenny come back to tell us of Lee's exploits and choices, and what exactly he thought of the man, would be a good way to bring back everyone's favorite moustachioed redneck and make our choices matter at the same time. Of course, bringing him back would be some pretty cruel punishment, considering everything that happened in Season 1he would now have to live with, and the general "Fuck all of you" attitude that the Walking Dead universe has.
  • edited May 2013
    No "best" way to reintroduce him, imo. I never want to see him again.
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    Possibly as an antagonist to the new main character, albeit not a villain. He lost his family, his crew, and chances are he will have snapped long before meeting the new group, becoming more selfish and caring less about how his actions affect others.
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    RichWalk23 wrote: »
    Possibly as an antagonist to the new main character, albeit not a villain. He lost his family, his crew, and chances are he will have snapped long before meeting the new group, becoming more selfish and caring less about how his actions affect others.

    It's the non-spoiler part of the forum, so I mark my whole post as a spoiler, if however you have played the game to the very ending, you have nothing to be afraid of.
    That'd contradict the 5th episode for all the people that were on Kenny's good side. It isn't likely, that even if he lost it, he would turn on his friends. Kenny is a man of belief, even in the darkest of days he stood up for Lee, if he did the same. If Kenny snapped, he'd snap back for Clem, his "new family" as he said in EP 5, if you were buddies.

    Well I don't quite know how to answer the question in the title and initial post, frankly I'd need more time to think myself, but I can tell what would be a shitty way to re-introduce him in S2. By making him be one of the 2 characters in the after-credits-scene, or even worse make the other one, a person out of the S1 group as well. That'd be a cheap way to do so, I'd rather have it be an epic moment, or not even that, but an unexpected moment. Maybe the group would find his hat somewhere, in an abandoned city part perhaps, then they'd go searching the closer environment to find him, but they wouldn't... only clues that'd suggest his death, although no body would be to find nearby. Then, maybe whole two episodes later, when he is totally forgotten, in midst of some ultra-exiting part of the story, where he is the last thing you think about, he appears. How? Maybe Clem is about to be bitten, but the walker's head pops? Or maybe bandits take her, or are about to execute her, then their heads pop? Something like that, that was just a vague idea of how I could imagine it for instance.

    But I'm not even sure if I even want him back in S2. At least I want to have closure and clarity in the case.
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    ZeroShoot wrote: »
    That'd contradict the 5th episode for all the people that were on Kenny's good side. It isn't likely, that even if he lost it, he would turn on his friends. Kenny is a man of belief, even in the darkest of days he stood up for Lee, if he did the same. If Kenny snapped, he'd snap back for Clem, his "new family" as he said in EP 5, if you were buddies.
    Well, since I didn't fully have his back and I didn't always agree with his actions, I was pretty much doomed to be an enemy in his eyes regardless of how much my Lee deserved it. The Kenny my Lee met always seemed to serve himself and his family's interests above all else, and never lifted a finger to help me when I needed his help. It would make sense for me if he were to show up in Season 2 as an antagonist, since suddenly becoming a replacement for Lee would be ridiculous since I never saw him care much for Clementine, especially when he didn't want to help save her when she was kidnapped because of a grudge he had with Lee.
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    RichWalk23 wrote: »
    Well, since I didn't fully have his back and I didn't always agree with his actions, I was pretty much doomed to be an enemy in his eyes regardless of how much my Lee deserved it. The Kenny my Lee met always seemed to serve himself and his family's interests above all else, and never lifted a finger to help me when I needed his help. It would make sense for me if he were to show up in Season 2 as an antagonist, since suddenly becoming a replacement for Lee would be ridiculous since I never saw him care much for Clementine, especially when he didn't want to help save her when she was kidnapped because of a grudge he had with Lee.

    I understand you. For you, and approximately somewhat around 50% of all players it would make sense, for the others though it wouldn't. If they made it depending on decisions then everyone would be happy I guess.
  • edited May 2013
    I agree, if Telltale plans on bringing back Kenny then his character will have to be changed depending on how players interacted with him from Season 1. It's a challenge, but it's not outright impossible, and it's not as if all of Kenny's dialogue has to be altered.
  • edited May 2013
    They could do it, it would be hard but it would be possible.
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    I think if he were to return, it'd have to be presented as a big shock, a huge moment for the game. I wouldn't want to see him reintroduced immediately, casually walking up to the new protagonist. I think it'd be better if you came across him unexpectedly, which could go down a couple of ways. Maybe he saves you from a certain fate, or he could have gone insane by this point and act kind of like TV Morgan.

    You would have to have Omid or Christa with you though when you came across him, as they were the ones with him when he "died", and talking to them would be the best way to explain how he got away without it feeling forced.

    With that said, I'm not sure I want to see Kenny return. I love the character and his storyline, but he's been pretty well developed by this point and I'm not sure what all else you could do with him. If he returns, I'd rather it be as a cameo or smaller role (whether he dies or chooses to stay alone and move on). As it is, I'm happy with his death, even if it is ambiguous.. in fact, I think I like that better than if it were to actually show him get torn apart. There was something so sad and eerie about him walking into the unknown and never seeing him again.
  • edited May 2013
    KENNY ! ! ! But Lily was there first so bye bitten Kenny , a matter of 20 seconds.
    If he was not bitten, then he comes back Rambo style UNSTOPPABLE, but dies saving Clem and blows up hundreds of walkers in the end of his story.
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    Well having seen this thread, it occurred to me that the after-credit scene in the first series may not even be the starting point of the second.

    The first episode could be a viewing of her escape from town, leading up to the point that we've seen. Maybe Clem will witness Kenny once again on her way out, either turned or bit. With all of his responsibilities stripped and already seeing him come to terms with his issues, I don't think we can expect much beyond a cameo from him due to a lack of remaining character development.

    If he has amazingly survived unscathed I don't think he'll be staying close to our major characters for too long.
  • edited May 2013
    If he is alive the best time to bring him back, if you're following Clem, Omid, and/ Christa is when everything looks lost.
  • edited May 2013
    As above, what is the most realistic way to have Kenny back in Season 2.

    This:
    Kenny: Lee...Lee! Wake up already we sail soon! You can sleep in the boad as long as you want.
    Lee: *Yawning* Damn...*Yawning* Clem?
    Clementine: Yes?
    Lee: Be ready...

    I mean that it's imposible.
  • edited May 2013
    In my personal opinion, the way I see it the most is Kenny, after escaping whichever place he was in, happens upon Lee, Christa, and Omid trying to cross the sign. When Lee goes on alone, he follows from the rooftops and tries to follow him, but gets stuck with the walkers beneath him. He ends up having to pray for Lee's safety.

    Eventually, he sees Lee and Clem walking out alive, and starts heading down over to them to get them to follow. He gets stopped, however, by an undead Molly on the rooftops and has to face her first.

    After dealing with Molly, he finds Lee had passed out and Clem trying to drag his body along with no avail. He then climbs down the drags him through the door of an old jewelry store, pushing Clem inside and closing it, telling her, "Just get the hell out of here!" I'll meet you out of this goddamn town!"

    That would explain the sounds of the walkers if you listened while Clem was waking Lee, and would explain how a 9 year old girl dragged an old black male into a store and closed the garage-style door they couldn't open together.

    Anyway, either that would lead to Kenny'd death as he was surrounded by walkers, or maybe the new protagonist who was watching both sides saves him. If not, maybe he barely outmanuevers them and makes it back to the rooftops, making sure to make his/their way out of Savannah.

    You could either play as Kenny or the new protagonist.

    That is the main way I see it going, and so then you could have Kenny and the other person on the hill-side, or give the new protagonist an introduction. At the very least it would close Kenny off for good, no speculations, nothing. He'd be dead.
  • edited May 2013
    as a wallker
    your'e in the denial stage, get over it
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    zev_zev wrote: »
    This:
    Kenny: Lee...Lee! Wake up already we sail soon! You can sleep in the boad as long as you want.
    Lee: *Yawning* Damn...*Yawning* Clem?
    Clementine: Yes?
    Lee: Be ready...

    I mean that it's imposible.

    Man.. I feel like part of me would be thrilled if that happen and the part would feel insulted that I felt all those emotions at the end for nothing.
  • edited May 2013
    Choombi wrote: »
    as a wallker
    your'e in the denial stage, get over it

    I think you're in the denial stage here, friend. It's ok if you hate Kenny(tons of people do)but that doesn't magically make him die.
  • edited May 2013
    If that was true then Larry would have been dead since April.
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    Mornai wrote: »
    I think you're in the denial stage here, friend. It's ok if you hate Kenny(tons of people do)but that doesn't magically make him die.

    What? To think that Kenny is dead and hate him are two different things. I like Kenny, but I sure that he's dead.
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    zev_zev wrote: »
    What? To think that Kenny is dead and hate him are two different things. I like Kenny, but I sure that he's dead.

    Thinking that he is dead is fine, but telling other people who think otherwise that they are wrong is not.

    I will be happy whether Kenny lives or dies, but i do not claim that either side is fact(which is false for the time being). Someone who really loves or hates Kenny would be more likely to say such a thing for whichever side they want to be true.
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    Mornai wrote: »
    I think you're in the denial stage here, friend. It's ok if you hate Kenny(tons of people do)but that doesn't magically make him die.

    i do not hate kenny, i simply can't see how he could make it alive, and how i can be in the denial stage about someone being alive???
    zev_zev wrote: »
    What? To think that Kenny is dead and hate him are two different things. I like Kenny, but I sure that he's dead.
    thank you
  • edited May 2013
    Picture the scene the new group are walking down an empty street with no signs of life when suddenly a huge explosion erupts out of a building close by with glass shattering and zombie limbs flying and then a dark figure comes out from the entrance covered in zombie blood and holding a gas caster and walks up to them and says "Hey I'm Kenny". Any way serious now if TellTale are thinking of bringing back Kenny then I agree with slimymeteor. TeamKennyAlways! I will be more than happy to see him return.
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    He makes it into the sewers like lee did in episode 4 then he makes his way to the marsh house to find strangers walkie talkie then he trys to find clem...
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    The end of the game confirms that he died.
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    The end of the game confirms that he died.

    Not really, it says "lost" instead of died. It means just as much as Christa & Omid's panels saying "separated after crossing the sign", or Lilly's "stole the RV and was never seen again".
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    Since they went out of their way to make sure we had no concrete proof of his death in either scenario, or even on the epilogue screen, all we can really do is guess one way or the other.
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    I know that the answer will to known in Season 2, the only real question is do we really want to know, would it be better to think Kenny went out like a Hero then to see him be his old asshole self in Season 2 as unlikely as it is.
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    I know that the answer will to known in Season 2, the only real question is do we really want to know, would it be better to think Kenny went out like a Hero then to see him be his old asshole self in Season 2 as unlikely as it is.

    He wouldn't be his old self because he doesn't have a family to protect anymore. If Katjaa and Duck were still alive no way in hell would Kenny ever jump down to save Christa or Ben, and he'd probably refuse to join the search for Clementine as well(unless Katjaa could persuade him). I think we'd see a different type of Kenny where he defends and cares for other people, something he rarely did in Season 1.
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    I know you are right and it is highly unlikely but you just never know, but I do not think he would become a ass again.
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    Picture the scene, the new group are walking down an empty and seemingly lifeless street when all of a sudden there is a huge explosion and flames coming out of a near by building with glass shattering and zombie limbs flying and then out the flames comes a dark figure holding a gas canister and walks up to you and says "Hey, I'm Kenny"... Ok serious now if Telltale are thinking of bringing back Kenny I will be very happy as I really enjoyed his character and would really like to see where they go with it. I would like to see if your choices can still be affected by him. To be honest I don't know how they can bring him back in a good way that isn't too ridiculous but cool. TeamKennyAlways!
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    I posted it twice accidentally because I thought the first one failed to post because my Internet crashed. Hope that clears up why I posted my reply twice
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    It's ok, my internet sucks and has done that sometimes.
  • edited May 2013
    I posted it twice accidentally because I thought the first one failed to post because my Internet crashed. Hope that clears up why I posted my reply twice

    Welcome to the forum. Sometimes it's the internet connection but other times I think it's this website. Everything you post is just lost. I always copy my post before clicking "submit reply". Most of the time the post goes through but every now and again it is lost. Just reopen and paste. Easy.
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