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Clem shouldn't die just to make the story sadder

master psychicmaster psychic
edited June 2013 in The Walking Dead
People say that Clementine dying will make season 2 much emotional and more dramatic than season 1 . Well I say NO !
Do people realise that if Clementine dies just for shock value and sadness than Lee's sacrifice would be for nothing , and that pretty much means that all of our choices for season 1 were all for nothing and if she dies than Lee will be forgotten forever and it would be a insult to those who loved him .
Just because this is The Walking Dead and that there is no happy ending it doesn't mean that Clementine has to die just to make season 2 emotional i mean we are going to have a new cast right ? They can season 2 emotional with the new protagonist and the new group .
To be honest if Clementine dies and we can't do anything about it than it would be a big middle finger to those sweet moments between Lee and Clem and that taking care of her and training her was pointless

Comments

  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited May 2013
    I agree that she should live through Season 2, but at some point she will die, it's the way of the Walking Dead.
  • fishmahboifishmahboi
    edited May 2013
    I have to agree that there is no point in killing Clemintine off, but who knows, maybe there will be an instance in Season 2 in which Telltale kills Clemintine off for the purpose of helping the story of Season 2.
  • gimmeseason2gimmeseason2
    edited May 2013
    One person who is probably hoping for Clem to die is Robert Kirkman.
  • NatsumiNatsumi
    edited May 2013
    Since it's TWD, it's a given that she's going to die at some point. But the game made me care about most of the characters who were even more obviously marked for death, so I'm sure they'll find a way to give her an emotional send-off if they choose to go that route. I knew from the start of TWD that Lee was going to be shot by Clem at the end and I was right! I still bawled like a baby.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited May 2013
    I need to know that's Lee's death was not in vain!
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited May 2013
    Also, now Clementine have got a small part of Lee in her soul. Сhildrens look at adults and copy their behavior. Clem is not an exception. She will be like what was Lee. (not fully). Lee was like what was player. So, Clementine has got a small piece of player in her soul. And Clementine - it's a little piece of us. Do you want to tiny part of you, will die?
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited May 2013
    Nothing should ever happen "just to make the story sadder" or "more emotional." That's not a good reason for any decision! People who think that's how a story is put together are weird!
    gimmeseason2 wrote: »
    One person who is probably hoping for Clem to die is Robert Kirkman.

    Kirkman won't be happy until everyone is dead, but there are so many people still alive in the books and they all fight so hard to stay that way! It's going to take him a while to be happy.
  • Mark$manMark$man
    edited May 2013
    ^LOL, wow that sounds bad coming from someone working with Telltale! And Kirkman actually made Clem shoot Lee just to toughen her up, so yeah, he likes that kind of stuff I guess xD

    I don't know if it isn't a great reason, IF they can pull it off correctly. I mean, Heavy Rain was almost nothing BUT depression, and the game was awesome. The Walking Dead may have an excellent storyline, but the emotional tie-ins are what makes everyone fond to the characters. You need a way to connect the player to the people of the game, and some games use sad, messed up situations just for that. I'd say it is a 50/50 type thing
  • TJPguyTJPguy
    edited May 2013
    Jake wrote: »
    Nothing should ever happen "just to make the story sadder" or "more emotional." That's not a good reason for any decision! People who think that's how a story is put together are weird!
    Mark$man wrote: »
    I don't know if it isn't a great reason, IF they can pull it off correctly. I mean, Heavy Rain was almost nothing BUT depression, and the game was awesome.

    ^ This :cool: Besides, I believe that if molded correctly and intelligently, anything can be pulled off well and be a good reason for a decision even if that is 'purely for the increased emotions'. Heck, that's probably why quite a lot of things happen as they do in films and games.
    That correct mold is probably the hardest to make though (especially with TWD and the strong opinions for it) because of the need to make everyone 'satisfied' plot-wise. Even if a phenomenal story was made but at the cost of an untouchable character (one even more so than Lee...), it's as good as hated by the fans. It's a shame really but what can you do?

    Okay so I'm weird, but hey, that's probably why you guys are there making beloved games and I'm here just posting on the forums :p
  • MaconMajrMaconMajr
    edited June 2013
    Agreed wholeheartedly

    Clem killed or turned into a walker

    HEAVEN FORBID!!!

    The Walking Dead world needs more live people.
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited June 2013
    On that note what would you do if they did kill Clementine, I probable order five pizzas and drink my favorite sode alone when at the same time listening to my darling Clementine and then go bed at five pm after eating all the pizza.
  • Tomi021Tomi021
    edited June 2013
    I believe that she will die in the alst walking dead season ever
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited June 2013
    Tomi021 wrote: »
    I believe that she will die in the alst walking dead season ever

    When she will 50 years old grandma :D
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited June 2013
    One can hope that in the last Season there will be endings were she can live or die, which would satisfy most of us but then again it's the Walking Dead so she could still die.
  • XarneXarne
    edited June 2013
    Clem is almost never playable, and probably wont die until the end of this game, if at all. There's no need to have her die for dying's sake, that what new eipsode characters are for right? I think she's there to be that fly on the wall as adults with different ideas argue on how to handle things- she's that voice thats there to stop you from going full savage- at least thats how I see her, as my game would have had some defiinite changes if she wasnt around
  • FabrimuchFabrimuch
    edited June 2013
    I think what Jake meant was that killing Clementine for the sake of making the story sadder is bad writing, because it wouldn´t be fulfilling some kind of theme or completing her character arc, killing a character only to shock your audience is something gratuitous and stupid.

    Mind you, I´m not saying Clem dying would be bad writing, I´m saying killing her for THAT reason would be stupid.
  • amigosolitarioamigosolitario
    edited June 2013
    Not speak English, okay. It becomes an animated comic episode 1 YouTube, which would be the reason, would have any value, it would be boring, feel the excitement live.
  • oliethefolieoliethefolie
    edited June 2013
    How horrible would it be that, if you chose to not shoot Lee in S1, Clem gets killed by walker Lee?
  • WABE CarleyWABE Carley
    edited June 2013
    ^that would be so brutal.
    I made Clem shoot Lee though.
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited June 2013
    oliethefolie wrote: »
    How horrible would it be that, if you chose to not shoot Lee in S1, Clem gets killed by walker Lee?

    Pretty sure that everyone would go rewind and replay the seemingly most important choice in season 1, making the player choice statistics for episode 5 lean in a specific way. :p
  • TJPguyTJPguy
    edited June 2013
    Fabrimuch wrote: »
    I think what Jake meant was that killing Clementine for the sake of making the story sadder is bad writing, because it wouldn´t be fulfilling some kind of theme or completing her character arc, killing a character only to shock your audience is something gratuitous and stupid.

    Mind you, I´m not saying Clem dying would be bad writing, I´m saying killing her for THAT reason would be stupid.

    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense :)
  • CaveRaveCaveRave
    edited June 2013
    She will definitely die in a sacrifice. It would be the Walking Dead's style of proving that no one is safe as well as not making the nature of the story (Clem becoming stronger) as well as Lee's death seem like a waste.

    Though it would be cool if the nature of the sacrifice, whether it's chasing what she believes in or dying for a group to continue living is the ultimate result of the choices Lee made with Clem in season 1. I really doubt she will die in season 2 though.. if she appears at all that is.
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