If the Walking Dead Season 1 was up to you?

Who would die and who would live?

In the poll, check the people who you'd kill off. And remember that one action stops another. So if you killed Lilly you can't say "Also Ben because he made Lilly shoot Carley/Doug!"

Also, describe when (And maybe how) they'd die.

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  • edited July 2013
    This is gonna be a long one, so here goes...

    Well, Episode 1 would go about the same, including the Carley/Doug choice. Save one or the other, whatever. Episode 2 would begin the same, with Travis and David doing their stuff, and the whole Cutting The Leg option or not, and Ben would come to the group. The St. Johns, however, give the group meaat from another survivor instead of Mark (another survivor, as in, not one from our group). Mark survives Episode 2.

    In Episode 3, Mark is wounded during the bandit raid on the motel. Lee barely gets him into the RV, and while they are treating his wounds, Kenny hits the walker and Lilly demands to find out who the traitor is, as usual. In the RV, Mark dies of his wounds, reanimates, and attacks Lilly just as she is about to shoot who she thinks is the traitor. Lilly is unscathed, and the situation is defused (but Lilly is still really pissed.) Duck was still bitten, and Katjaa still kills herself. Ben is still the traitor. Chuck dies when the herd catches up to the train.

    In Episode 4, when Ben abandons Clem in the street, Carley/Doug saves her. Carley is super pissed at Ben, but Doug will be more disappointed. At Crawford, Brie dies as usual, Lilly votes with Kenny (strange, I know) to throw Ben out. Carley abstains, but if Doug is alive, he will vote to keep Ben. The others vote like normal. There is no option to drop Ben.

    Upon returning to the manor, it is discovered that Omid died and returned. If Clem was left at home, she kills him if given the gun, or hides if you tell her to. If Clem was brought to Crawford or hid in the closet, one of the group has to put down Omid. Clementine goes missing, and the group goes to look for her. Lee is nearly bitten, but escapes harm upon finding the radio. Carley/Doug will stay at the boat. Christa goes with Lee no matter what, and depending on their relationships with you, Kenny and Lilly can also choose to go or stay with the boat. Niether Kenny or Lilly wants to go with if Ben goes. If Ben wants to go, Lee must choose whether to bring him, or Lilly/Kenny/Both. Whoever is not chosen to go will stay with Carley/Doug at the boat. It is impossible to get the entire group to go.

    After returning from the morgue, those who go find that the boat is gone. If Carley is alive, she will be in the house with whoever stayed. She will see vernon's group stealing the boat from one of the windows, and goes out to stop them. She kills Vernon, but since his group was already in the shed by the time Carley saw them, the others get away. Carley pursues them, and is not seen again. Her fate at the end is left unknown.

    If Doug is alive, an alarm system he made earlier alerts him and whoever stayed that teh cancer survivors are coming, and they barricade themselves in the shed with the boat. A few minutes before Lee returns, Vernon's group gets into the boat shed. Vernon immediately attempts to shoot Ben/Kenny/Lilly, but Doug gets in front of the bullet for them and is killed. If Kenny is with the boat, he kills Vernon even if Lilly is also present. If Kenny went with Lee and Lilly stayed with Doug and Ben, she will kill Vernon. If both Lilly and Kenny accompanied Lee if Doug is alive, Vernon does not die in the shed. His group manages to steal the boat, with or without him.

    In the attic, during the siege by the walkers, Lilly says to Kenny that she forgives him for what he did to her father. Kenny tells her to shove it, as he doesn't believe her. Ben didn't blow up on Kenny right before the walkers attacked, so Kenny still hates him and Lilly both. They proceed as normal, until Ben causes Lee to drop thee radio into the dark room. Kenny jumps down to get it instead of Christa, but finds that he can't get out. When the walkers realize he is there, Lilly jumps down and boosts him up. She runs out of view into the room, and is most likely killed. Kenny realizes that she really had forgiven him, and regrets that the last thing he told her was that he still hated her. Lee goes to the Marsh House alone, and saves Clem. After the end credits, they find Christa, Ben, and Kenny on the hill. Christa is still depressed over Omid's death and is contemplating suicide, as is Ben, who still blames himself for getting many members of the group killed. Kenny attempts to forgive Ben as Lilly forgave him, and Lee survives.

    There's your frakking description Higgs. If I get carpal tunnel because of that novel I just wrote, I'm blaming you.
  • edited July 2013
    Okay that quite the mouthfull, good job writing all of that, I guess all I would really change is Carley dying in Episode 3, maybe dying in Episode 5 or living altogether, that is what I would want and it would still be a great game.
  • edited July 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    This is gonna be a long one, so here goes...
    "yaddah yaddah yaddah"

    I actually really like that plot. It's different since there's so little deaths compared to the actual season. I appreciate it.
    Rock114 wrote: »
    There's your frakking description Higgs. If I get carpal tunnel because of that novel I just wrote, I'm blaming you.

    Oh.
  • edited July 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    This is gonna be a long one, so here goes...

    Well, Episode 1 would go about the same, including the Carley/Doug choice. Save one or the other, whatever. Episode 2 would begin the same, with Travis and David doing their stuff, and the whole Cutting The Leg option or not, and Ben would come to the group. The St. Johns, however, give the group meaat from another survivor instead of Mark (another survivor, as in, not one from our group). Mark survives Episode 2.

    In Episode 3, Mark is wounded during the bandit raid on the motel. Lee barely gets him into the RV, and while they are treating his wounds, Kenny hits the walker and Lilly demands to find out who the traitor is, as usual. In the RV, Mark dies of his wounds, reanimates, and attacks Lilly just as she is about to shoot who she thinks is the traitor. Lilly is unscathed, and the situation is defused (but Lilly is still really pissed.) Duck was still bitten, and Katjaa still kills herself. Ben is still the traitor. Chuck dies when the herd catches up to the train.

    In Episode 4, when Ben abandons Clem in the street, Carley/Doug saves her. Carley is super pissed at Ben, but Doug will be more disappointed. At Crawford, Brie dies as usual, Lilly votes with Kenny (strange, I know) to throw Ben out. Carley abstains, but if Doug is alive, he will vote to keep Ben. The others vote like normal. There is no option to drop Ben.

    Upon returning to the manor, it is discovered that Omid died and returned. If Clem was left at home, she kills him if given the gun, or hides if you tell her to. If Clem was brought to Crawford or hid in the closet, one of the group has to put down Omid. Clementine goes missing, and the group goes to look for her. Lee is nearly bitten, but escapes harm upon finding the radio. Carley/Doug will stay at the boat. Christa goes with Lee no matter what, and depending on their relationships with you, Kenny and Lilly can also choose to go or stay with the boat. Niether Kenny or Lilly wants to go with if Ben goes. If Ben wants to go, Lee must choose whether to bring him, or Lilly/Kenny/Both. Whoever is not chosen to go will stay with Carley/Doug at the boat. It is impossible to get the entire group to go.

    After returning from the morgue, those who go find that the boat is gone. If Carley is alive, she will be in the house with whoever stayed. She will see vernon's group stealing the boat from one of the windows, and goes out to stop them. She kills Vernon, but since his group was already in the shed by the time Carley saw them, the others get away. Carley pursues them, and is not seen again. Her fate at the end is left unknown.

    If Doug is alive, an alarm system he made earlier alerts him and whoever stayed that teh cancer survivors are coming, and they barricade themselves in the shed with the boat. A few minutes before Lee returns, Vernon's group gets into the boat shed. Vernon immediately attempts to shoot Ben/Kenny/Lilly, but Doug gets in front of the bullet for them and is killed. If Kenny is with the boat, he kills Vernon even if Lilly is also present. If Kenny went with Lee and Lilly stayed with Doug and Ben, she will kill Vernon. If both Lilly and Kenny accompanied Lee if Doug is alive, Vernon does not die in the shed. His group manages to steal the boat, with or without him.

    In the attic, during the siege by the walkers, Lilly says to Kenny that she forgives him for what he did to her father. Kenny tells her to shove it, as he doesn't believe her. Ben didn't blow up on Kenny right before the walkers attacked, so Kenny still hates him and Lilly both. They proceed as normal, until Ben causes Lee to drop thee radio into the dark room. Kenny jumps down to get it instead of Christa, but finds that he can't get out. When the walkers realize he is there, Lilly jumps down and boosts him up. She runs out of view into the room, and is most likely killed. Kenny realizes that she really had forgiven him, and regrets that the last thing he told her was that he still hated her. Lee goes to the Marsh House alone, and saves Clem. After the end credits, they find Christa, Ben, and Kenny on the hill. Christa is still depressed over Omid's death and is contemplating suicide, as is Ben, who still blames himself for getting many members of the group killed. Kenny attempts to forgive Ben as Lilly forgave him, and Lee survives.

    There's your frakking description Higgs. If I get carpal tunnel because of that novel I just wrote, I'm blaming you.

    I liked it all, but...

    Omid dies

    Omid dies

    Omid DIES

    OMID DIES

    OMID DIES
  • edited July 2013
    The thing with character deaths is you don't want to see those characters you like die... but their deaths are almost always one of the strongest moments in the story.
  • edited July 2013
    I liked it all, but...

    Omid dies

    Omid dies

    Omid DIES

    OMID DIES

    OMID DIES

    I killed him because YOU liked him.

    (Not really, but Christa didn't lose anyone, so I leveled the playing field for her.)
  • edited July 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I killed him because YOU liked him.

    (Not really, but Christa didn't lose anyone, so I leveled the playing field for her.)

    Ahahah Christa just has to come along and ruin everything. That baby's gonna cause too many damn problems in Season 2...
  • edited July 2013
    Now my idea is very Simple Kenny dies protecting Katjaa and Duck before he goes to Hershel's farm
    Thanks to this the Tractor doesn't stop Shawn from escaping causing Shawn to survive and giving Clem and Lee no choice but to stay in Hershel's farm which is safer and has better long term survival prospects
    Thanks to this Lilly's group doesn't come under as much pressure due to Kenny no longer attracting all the zombies causing them to more safely travel and have no worries about Larry's heart
    They eventually when looking for supplies find the Motor Inn and after clearing up use it as their base for operations...
    With both Doug and Carley alive Doug takes the more defensive approach building Alarm systems and fortifications whilst Carley assumes Lee's position as leader of the Team and does similar actions as to saving Ben and as a Reporter naturally investigates into the Saint Johns above all else allowing her to discover what is really happening before it is too late preventing any possible death by doing what needs to be done
    They discover the Supplies in the Car and decide to take them because of their dire need which eventually causes the Stranger to want to go after them
    With Both Larry and Lilly still alive Ben gets away with his deal with the Bandits that is not discovered and they leave never knowing of Ben's betrayl
    They use the fuel to travel to the Countryside in which the Stranger attempts to go after them however as he has no real weakness within the group to exploit he is nothing more than a Stalker or Bandit who they one day shot...
    Eventually the survivors create a new society which is self sufficient and lasts for a fair amount of time until eventually as always the Walkers win...
  • edited July 2013
    I'd keep it exactly how it is except for the Cancer survivors to properly confirm Vernon's death in 400 Days, have Chuck survive a bit longer into Episode 4 and have Carley survive longer, maybe even the whole season. Just because I love her character, I feel like she was wasted potential. However I think the roadside argument was so well done, it wouldn't have had the same impact if Carley wasn't killed like that.
  • edited July 2013
    Hard question since I've got to be aware that saving all my favourite characters would have made the series terrible.

    I'd swap the timing of Ben and Carley's deaths. Ben confesses under pressure and is shot by Lilly. To change the dynamic of the Lilly decision a bit since it happens to a less popular character, it happens after Duck/Katjaa so we already know the extent damage Ben had done.

    Carley and Doug then die in episode 4. Doug dies near the beggining along with Chuck saving Clementine, whilst if Carley is chosen she lives a little longer but only to die in Crawford (albeit in more heroic way than her original departure). The effect of these deaths of these two followed in quick succession by Clem's disappearance on Lee is used to justify his mistake in being bitten a bit more.

    Everyone else dies in the same way (tweaked according to Bens absence, for example zombies break down the doors despite the hatchet still being there)
  • edited July 2013
    That is the worst part, the roadside argument was so good but it was not be as good without a death, so who would you kill instead of Carley?
  • edited July 2013
    That is the worst part, the roadside argument was so good but it was not be as good without a death, so who would you kill instead of Carley?

    Maybe Ben if you convince Lilly that he did it and make him confess .
  • edited July 2013
    Maybe Ben if you convince Lilly that he did it and make him confess .
    But then who would unbar doors and let Walkers in?
  • edited July 2013
    I guess you could do Mark, but then who would be the person to get eaten by the Saint Johns.
  • edited July 2013
    I guess you could do Mark, but then who would be the person to get eaten by the Saint Johns.

    Ben's teacher because i heard that the original plan of episode 2 was David to be eaten instead of Mark and Mark would be killed by the bandits attacking the diary .
  • edited July 2013
    I guess it could have been ether David or Travis get eaten by the Saint Johns, the shock factor would have been the same, and have Mark get killed by Lilly, so I guess that would make sense, they would have to develop Mark more to make that scene more shocking but it could have been done.
  • edited July 2013
    I would make sure that Lee, Clementine and her parents, Kenny, Katjaa, Doug, Lilly, Mark, Travis, Ben, Chuck, Omid, Christa and Molly would all survive.
  • edited July 2013
    I would make sure that Lee, Clementine and her parents, Kenny, Katjaa, Doug, Lilly, Mark, Travis, Ben, Chuck, Omid, Christa and Molly would all survive.
    And thus all of the best moments of the game would be removed?

    I can always tell the difference between someone who writes stories (whether that be professionally or just for fun), and someone who doesn't.
  • edited July 2013
    I guess it could have been ether David or Travis get eaten by the Saint Johns, the shock factor would have been the same, and have Mark get killed by Lilly, so I guess that would make sense, they would have to develop Mark more to make that scene more shocking but it could have been done.

    I don't know about Lilly killing Mark , because if i heard correctly in the audio files of episode 2 Lee tells Lilly that she and Mark were very close and she says that she wanted everybody to survive together . This never happens in the game but i guess this conversation would of happened if Mark got killed by the bandits .
  • edited July 2013
    If Mark was not be killed by Lilly then who gets killed on the side of the road, it can't be Ben since he has to screw up and Carley has to live since she does not die in the version of the game, who else could it be that does not screw up a part of the game that happens later?
  • edited July 2013
    If Mark was not be killed by Lilly then who gets killed on the side of the road, it can't be Ben since he has to screw up and Carley has to live since she does not die in the version of the game, who else could it be that does not screw up a part of the game that happens later?

    I don't know maybe the cancer patients if they joined the group in their little trip to Crawford .
  • edited July 2013
    I think it would just have to be Mark since it would have to be someone in the group that we have known for at least two Episodes, I can't think of any better, I guess that is why they killed Carley, it made more sense and it made it that scene better.
  • edited July 2013
    First off, I'd like to say: Why just go off and kill Doug and let Carley frolic around longer than him?

    Then to follow the Ben/Mark situation, I'd say a way to change it would be that the original plan goes and David is the one that the St. Johns serve. Mark is still alive into episode three. When the roadside argument comes along, you'll either force Ben, or he'll fess up, and Lilly will shoot him out of cold blood. Lilly is then abandoned by the group again, and it travels to Episode 4 normally.

    Chuck is lost in the beginning of the episode also. On to Crawford, instead of the hatchet situation, Mark will come out into the hallway after Lee's and Molly's conversation. He will say that they couldn't find anything to open the door. Then he sees the hatchet, and the group of walkers on the other side. He tensely looks at Lee, who has the chance to yell something back, and then pulls the hatchet out, running with Lee and Molly to the room.

    At the bell tower, a walker will knock over Carley/Doug, who hangs on to the ledge, Lee will quickly run over, but the boards will break just as he gets there, and Carley/Doug will fall down and get knocked out, with Lee grimacing away.

    Things continue normally on to crossing the balcony, this is where Kenny falls, and is impaled. Lee and Mark rush down and try to help him, to no avail. He will tell you that this is how it should be, and empties his gun to one shot, and gives the others to you. He shoots himself offscreen. The episode continues normally and acts out like the real thing, only with Mark alive.
  • edited July 2013
    I wrote down a rather lengthy post on how i would handle Season 1 but it never posted so I'll sum up in more shorter post what i planned to change


    Episode 1: It's all unchanged

    Episode 2: Travis survives longer regardless of saving David or not, Travis replaces Mark as the human dinner, Mark Survives the episode, Larry can turn into a walker (depends on if you save David or not)

    Episode 3: Mark dies when the group are held hostage by trying to be a hero, Lilly will either kill Carley or injure Ben

    Episode 4: Kenny starts to hate members of the group and after his boat plan fails he gives up and is killed, Doug dies to protect Clementine, if Carley lived in Ep 1 then Chuck dies, Ben racked with guilt over Kenny and Katjaa and Duck throws himself off the bell tower

    Episode 5: Molly jumps down to get the walkie talkie and throws it up before running off leaving her status unknown, Lee puts down Walker Kenny, Omid, Christa and possibly Chuck (depending on the choices made from Episode 1)

    that's what i would do for Season 1
  • edited July 2013
    Okay we all have quite a few different ways it all could have gone, I may sound strange saying this but they did kill Carley at the right time, and for a month I wished they did not but I understand why they did it, I can see how the rest of the game would have been with Carley alive, it would not have changed that much, so in a weird way I am almost happy she died that way and at that time, we all would have wanted her to live longer but I think the game was better because of it, that does not mean I hate Carley at all and if she would have lived I would have been happy but you can't always get what you want, if that was the case then 80% of the characters that died would still be alive.
  • edited July 2013
    Okay we all have quite a few different ways it all could have gone, I may sound strange saying this but they did kill Carley at the right time, and for a month I wished they did not but I understand why they did it, I can see how the rest of the game would have been with Carley alive, it would not have changed that much, so in a weird way I am almost happy she died that way and at that time, we all would have wanted her to live longer but I think the game was better because of it, that does not mean I hate Carley at all and if she would have lived I would have been happy but you can't always get what you want, if that was the case then 80% of the characters that died would still be alive.
    I can also agree that Doug died when he had to and he died in the most noble way...
    He sacrificed himself to save a kid even if he was a traitor
    Also Doug wouldn't be the most useful person on the road...
    He was brilliant at making alarm systems and probably could have helped with the train (but that would have ruined the puzzle) so as much as I am saddened to have lost him he died when he needed to die
  • edited July 2013
    I miss Carley quite a bit, and seeing her on the road was heartbreaking, but I know deep down it was best moment to kill them, even if I can continue to dream about what it would have been if they had lived.
  • edited July 2013
    I miss Carley quite a bit, and seeing her on the road was heartbreaking, but I know deep down it was best moment to kill them, even if I can continue to dream about what it would have been if they had lived.

    Well i can imagine what would of happened .
    With Carley maybe Lee and Carley would of become a couple and officialy become Clem's parents and together would have a kid and than Lee , Carley , Clem and the baby would become a family .
    With Doug , Lee and Doug would be best friends and together would protect Clem how much they can .
  • edited July 2013
    I would have guessed that to, but the Walking Dead is a cruel beast, and it never could happen due to the world they now live it, but thank god for some good fan fics.
  • edited July 2013
    With Doug , Lee and Doug would be best friends and together would protect Clem how much they can .

    Doug and Lee...

    Doug and Lee...

    Large white guy with brown hair...

    Darker skinned guy with beard...

    MY GOD.
  • edited July 2013
    The biggest mistake was to stay within the travel, I would have gone with Clem to a safer place.
  • edited July 2013
    My only survivors would be Lilly.
  • edited July 2013
    I think I would have chosen the same people to die that Telltale chose but Lee would have died after fulfilling his last goal of getting Clem to safety. He would have died in the country side and not in the jewellery store. Christa and Omid would have met up with Clementine, mourned Lee and left with Clem. The end. No season 2, no dlc.

    If a season 2 was intended then I would have had Lee survive season 1 with Clem, and Christa.
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