I hate Episode 4

edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
For me, it just slows everything down, It makes the least sense and is filled with things i personaly hated doing

1. Digging up the dead dog seemed way to random, did they NEED to get in the house that badly?

2. Burying the attic Zombie was also just out of nowhere, I mean Kenny didnt even bury his own son yet he wants to bury this random walker because its rotted corpse " kinda looks like Duck "...you know who else kinda looked like Duck?...DUCK!

3. Getting the safe combination from the dead doc and the tapes and all just made me feel like i was playing some CSI game or something

4. The way Chuck died was Lame, Its a video game, be Creative for gods sake

5. The whole sewer puzzle was just stupid, who on earth would think of doing that in the moment?

6. Lee walking around the house shouting CLEMMM? and getting Angry was also lame and seemed like lee just had a personality switch all of a sudden

7. I think MOLLY is not very convincing as a character, too over the top.


Theres more i hate i just cant remember it at the moment.

Comments

  • edited July 2013
    If you hate it,so why are you here?
    1.Yeah they do,they didn't wanna DIE
    2.He was sad about his son and about the other kid and had to bury it.
    3.We HAD to do that.
    4.Why lame? almost everyone died.
    5.You stupid!
    6.He cared about Clem.which you don't.
    7.And you?
  • edited July 2013
    fabi777 wrote: »
    If you hate it,so why are you here?
    1.Yeah they do,they didn't wanna DIE
    2.He was sad about his son and about the other kid and had to bury it.
    3.We HAD to do that.
    4.Why lame? almost everyone died.
    5.You stupid!
    6.He cared about Clem.which you don't.
    7.And you?

    lol dude you just dont understand, please do not insult me as this is an internet forum and i am allowed to post my opinion, you have been reported
  • edited July 2013
    Episode 4 was my second least favorite episode, just because of the reason that there were way too many zombies. The main theme of TWD is human drama, and episode 4 didn't really deliver in that aspect. Zombies were literally everywhere, which really ruined the immersion for me.
  • edited July 2013
    Truth episode 4 was a mess seems Resident Evil: (The logic very silly, but who cares, they all died.
    1.A stranger stalking the girl.
    2.Go through school, did not see anything, it is logical that something bad happened.
    3.The hotel is 2 blocks from the pier and 4 of the house to return to.
    4.Hospital on the other side of town? for what?
    5.They map and not read.
    6.The whalkie to bring was a trap.

    An episode pretty bad, I thought I was playing Resident Evil 1 playstation one. :(
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  • edited July 2013
    It was the most action based episode. I have no idea where Gary Whitta was going with it. I love his work though.
  • edited July 2013
    Yeah I found Episode 4 the weakest of the 5.
  • edited July 2013
    I liked it a lot, but that my just be me you know.
  • edited July 2013
    Though I enjoy Telltale Walking Dead as a whole, I do agree that Episode 4 is the weakest of the five as a whole.
  • edited July 2013
    fabi777 wrote: »
    If you hate it,so why are you here?
    1.Yeah they do,they didn't wanna DIE
    2.He was sad about his son and about the other kid and had to bury it.
    3.We HAD to do that.
    4.Why lame? almost everyone died.
    5.You stupid!
    6.He cared about Clem.which you don't.
    7.And you?

    This. I loved Episode 4, it wasn't the best episode but was really good. Garry Whitta did a great job considering he had to turn the game around in a whole new setting, and at the start of the episode the group was completely different than what we were used to in the past 3 episodes, and honestly I was worried about this group as I already missed the motor inn but when I played it I was really happy with how it turned out. I love Molly's character, and this episode developed Kenny, Christa, Ben and Lee's characters really well. I just wish Omid had a bigger role in it, and Molly stayed in the group.

    After the depressing tone of Episode 3 it was a much needed light and fun episode... then the episode ended in an even darker tone than Episode 3 was haha.
  • edited July 2013
    While I don't hate it near as much as the OP seems to, the Episode 4 was also the weakest of the episodes for me. Though it didn't have much to do with gameplay or the setting, on the contrary, Crawford was one of my favorite areas in the game. I guess why the episode appealed the least to me was because of the characters. Ruling out Carley/Doug, Katja, Duck and Lilly all in one episode made the group lose most of its human element and upset the balance of the group. We got two tough hardasses, Lilly and Kenny, and basically two children (with Ben continuing to be utterly useless) for them to watch over. Chuck and Molly were both interesting characters, only to disappear in completely dull ways, without ever getting the chance to truly know them (Chuck especially). And while I don't mind Christa/Omid, and I understand they're meant to be as a replacement for the characters we lost back in episode 3, but they never appealed to me near as much as the original group members did. I cared nothing for their survival, which is ironic, since by the end of episode 5 I got stuck with only them anyways :/
  • edited July 2013
    Geez!

    Episode 4 was my personal favorite!
  • edited July 2013
    I liked Episode 4, I had a good amount of respect for Gary Whitta, but then he made After Earth, that respect kind of went down the toilet, hope he can make it up this season if he is still helping.
  • edited July 2013
    1. Yeah, so they wouldn't die and so Omid could rest up somewhere that wasn't the ground.

    2. They didn't have a shovel when Duck died, and they were in the middle of the woods, with two gunshots having been fired that could be bringing a group of walkers their way. Digging a grave for both him and Katjaa would have taken too much time. Even then, it's understandable that Kenny just wanted to get away from there, since his two main reasons for living had just died right in front of him. I view Kenny saying that they should bury the boy as his personal sense of closure since Duck didn't get buried, and could even be wandering around as a walker, depending on your choices. Plus, this time they already have a hole in the backyard, and shelter if things get dangerous. Makes perfect sense to me.

    3. Meh. I thought it was a clever way to get the combination and visually show how Crawford ended up falling without having anyone actually spell it out. I liked the visual hints that they gave us before being explained by the video. I also liked that the tapes showed a more human aspect of Crawford, with the doctor, despite being a little scummy using Molly for sex, still showed sympathy for Anna and reluctance to do what he had to.

    4. I suppose. Ultimately, he went out like a badass, so I'm not too bothered. Saved Clem, and kept fighting until he had no choice but to take himself out rather than let them get him. That's about as badass as you can get in a zombie apocalypse.

    5. Meh, maybe. I would have assumed Lee would just fire his gun on one side of the sewer, then crawl through that small space and get out of there. Still, it hardly took up much time to be that much of a pain.

    6. I don't see how. With Clementine not answering his calls and everybody being mostly unhelpful, I could more than understand being worried and pissed.

    7. No more so than a few other characters of TWD lore. Maybe not other characters in the game, granted, but it didn't take me out of the moment too much. Some people are just crazy skilled. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq4QdRfzSsU

    Anyway, I'm tossing my ballot into the "episode 4 was one of my favorites" box.
  • edited July 2013
    Episode 4 was the weakest but it was still great. Also 'The Walking Dead' is not solely about "human drama" - It is about "How humans would act in tough survival conditions".
  • edited August 2013
    What I liked about episode four was the length. It was good value for money. I wish all the episodes were that long to be honest. The action sequences were enjoyable as well. The thing I was most disappointed about in the episode was the lack discussion about the working radio, the fact that Clem had been talking to some random guy for a week and kept it from the group. I felt that the identity of the guy should have been the focus once the plot device was introduced in ep3's cliff hanger. I didn't see why finding a boat was prioritised over understanding where Clem was coming from in with holding such vital information. Kenny should have gone to look for the boat with Ben and Lee should have had a lengthy discussion about what was said and how long she had been talking to the guy. The whole thing seemed to be swept under the rug, so to speak. Finding out why Clem kept the working radio from Lee was the thing I was most looking forward to when I booted up ep4 and it was barely addressed.

    I didn’t like the way the episode started to be honest. It’s a new environment. I would have preferred the episode to have started slower with the group given a false sense of security, enabling us to take in the environment and flesh out the characters of the newly added members of the group. There could have been an opportunity for Lee to split up and scout the area with Clem, looking for her parents, giving opportunity for some touching dialogue between them like when Lee was in the drugstore office and when he was with her on the swing. I think the episode was long enough for that to have been possible. Lee could have been scouting supplies and looking for the motel and been forced to regroup when the bell went off then have the scene where they have the shoot out and move on to the manor.

    As the mystery of the guy on the radio plot device wasn’t really returned to or focussed on until ep5 it kind of made ep4 feel more like a filler episode.
  • edited August 2013
    I feel like it didn't seem that great just because in retrospect not much was accomplished especially after we learn that the boat gets stolen, and we were just coming off of A Long Road Ahead where EVERYTHING changed and a decent number of characters were killed off, and a lot of the stuff in Episode 4 was setting up stuff for Episode 5, making it feel sort of incomplete. I also feel like it was the weakest but I still feel that it was necessary in order to make everything come together in the finale.
  • edited August 2013
    I liked it, I mean Id still pick Shawn Vannaman and Jake Rodkin over Gary Whitta any day, but he still did a great job with Episode 4.
  • edited August 2013
    Im going to be the jerk that claims neutrality by saying there is no weakest episode imho. I would have no idea which episode i would choose to be the least good if you will, because they all had things i loved in different ways. i wouldnt love the game as much without Molly or the crawford bit.
  • edited August 2013
    Episode 4 was fucking awesome. Raiding Crawford was one of my favorite moments in the game, especially the escape through the armory. And the scene in the attic was incredible. Burying the boy was just another one of those poignant game moments that made me go, "Damn."
  • edited August 2013
    I know, I can't pick a weakest Episode, because without even one Episode the game would not be game of the year, simple, and I really liked Episode 4, they all brought something to the table the others did not.
  • edited August 2013
    I thought the OP had returned. *phew*

    4 is fine. Lots of good moments, particularly Kenny's rage at Ben and what follows.

    Brie getting disemboweled was a highlight.
  • edited August 2013
    If I had to pick a weakest episode it would be episode 1. The pharmacy part bores me a little (But that's of course after countless playthroughs)

    Episode 4 might be my favorite. I remember when I first got it I was pissed they didn't spend that much time on the radio man after I beat it. And it made the wait for episode 5 all the more excruciating. But 4 was badass to me, you go look for a boat and end up feeling hopeless, you get split up from Kenny and Clem (the only originals left in your group) and when you get back to the mansion you think something bads happened to Clementine only to feel badass when she finds a boat. Then you get to go to Crawford which ends in a badass finale (Thanks to Ben) And just when you think hey this episode might have a happy ending BAM The epic duo of tragedy in gaming history happens at the same time. Clem gets taken and Lee gets bitten. I know I couldn't have asked for a better episode.
  • edited August 2013
    My list goes from 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1 is the lowest, but not the worst, 2 was just better, and then 3 was even more mind blowing, 4 was pulse pounding, and 5, well do I really need to say anything about 5, so no I liked all of them, they just kept getting better.
  • edited August 2013
    My list goes from 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1 is the lowest, but not the worst, 2 was just better, and then 3 was even more mind blowing, 4 was pulse pounding, and 5, well do I really need to say anything about 5, so no I liked all of them, they just kept getting better.

    Yeah I agree with this. The creators even said they were going out of their way to out do the previous episode in between the waits last year. And it shows. One of them said that they wanted you to by time you get to episode 5 look at episode 1 like it was Disney land (In terms of darkness)
  • edited August 2013
    Though I don't agree with many of the op's points, I tend to criticize episode 4 as well.
    There were some great moments with Clementine, but I think I felt less connected with the rest of the group overall. Chuck died with little remembrance, wasn't a fan of Molly, still didn't know much about Omid and Christa yet, Ben's incompetence went beyond my suspension of disbelief, etc.
  • edited August 2013
    I know, I can't pick a weakest Episode, because without even one Episode the game would not be game of the year, simple, and I really liked Episode 4, they all brought something to the table the others did not.

    Episode 1 - Can We Work Together in a Broken Society?

    Episode 2 - Must We Become Monsters To Fight Monsters?

    Episode 3 - Should We Keep Going When Plans Are Pushed Aiside?

    Episode 4 - Will You Pity The Weak, or Fight The Strong?

    Episode 5 - What Lengths Will You Go To For The One You Love?

    Ya know, I came up with these on the spot. Episode 2's is pretty awesome when I look at it!
  • edited August 2013
    While Episode 4 wasn't my favorite, I rather liked it. It has one of my favorite moments of the season in it (Kenny's rage at Ben in Crawford) and the belltower escape is second only to Lee going through the herd in Episode 5 in terms of action sequences. Lee asking for help from the group after he gets bitten is also a really great moment that I thought was very well done, and I love that scene every time I play it. My only complaint would be that it starts out pretty slow, and doesn't pick up the pace for a while.
  • edited August 2013
    you know who else kinda looked like Duck?...DUCK!

    This had me on the ground :D

    I have to agree that some bits seemed random, but i believe they left Katjaa and duck there because there was a sense of impending urgency, to avoid any walkers and make it to Savannah. It sort of felt like burying the walker made up for not having the time to bury katjaa and duck. And also, they had no tools or anything, and had to leave quickly.
  • edited August 2013
    lol dude you just dont understand, please do not insult me as this is an internet forum and i am allowed to post my opinion, you have been reported

    I don't see i'm reported, so go away and delete your account.
  • edited August 2013
    Episode 4 is fucking amazing. Everything about it is AMAZING to me. The boy in the attic was just fucking incredible, and the whole Crawford supply hunt while surrounded by walkers was also SO cool. Probably my favorite episode besides 2 and 5
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