Tavia Everett?
Maybe this has been posted before, I haven't seen it. Anyone think this is a possibility? Did Lee ever mention his wife's name?
She seems too nice to be a cheater but we didn't get to play as her for very long.
She seems too nice to be a cheater but we didn't get to play as her for very long.
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Ikr, everyone who plays the game and sees a black woman is like
"It MUST be Lee's wife!!! OMG!!!
Doesn't mean much considering Clive and Boyd had very different voices in episode 4 than their voices in 400 Days. It'd just be something you'd have to look over if she did turn out to be his wife, which I doubt, but you never know.
Thanks jerk. Wtf, I just thought it could be a possibility, and she might be inclined to take care of Clem knowing everything her family member did for her. I was hopeful she might be.
Yeah, because that's totally what I said. Thanks for grouping me in with with everyone and calling us all racist.
Probably so.
Didn't mean to group you with those people, just saying that a lot of people say that... It's definitely a possibility she has a relation with Lee, but unlikely.
Have a great day!
have a nice day.
There is a little bit more evidence than just that.
They didn't have different voices I don't think. We never heard Joyce speak, Boyd has about one line and Clive says about 4 words. They sounded the same to me.
The fact that Glenn grew up in Macon, states he was in a lot of debt with people in the comics, had to steal cars to make money and not too mention how he doesn't want to speak about his family in Episode 1 are small hints I think. And then Vince was in Macon killing someone to protect his younger brother (this person desperately pleas that they don’t know his brother also) suggests to me that Telltale is heavily hinting that Vince is Glenn’s older brother. Not too mention the obvious physical similarities (no not just because they are both Asian), it could be that they may have the same model but I believe Telltale did that on purpose.
It's not all the strongest evidence but it's something, I definitely believe Glenn and Vince are brothers.
And why did you jump to this possible conclusion for Tavia? Why not Bonnie? We know nothing about her other than she had a drug problem. Stephanie? We know absolutely nothing about her, period. They have the same qualifications for being Lee's wife as Tavia.
The reason people jump to "you're racist" is because the sentiment is only brought up about Tavia, the only black woman in the game. It isn't explicit. It isn't mean-spirited. It isn't even intentional. But it is potentially racist. To be fair, the objections raised against you are making a very large assumption that may not be the case. You never explained why you think this way about Tavia, so the mind tends to fill in the gaps. The biggest noticeable difference between her and the other women in the series is that she's black. Are people assuming that's why you feel the way you do?
To be honest, that thought did pop up in my mind as well. I'm not exactly Mr. Perfect Sensitivity, but I do try to catch myself whenever I slip like that. If someone calls me racist, or sexist, or whatnot, I will at least try to see where they are coming from; what I did/said to get that response, then adjust my behavior (since that's all I have control over in that situation) if they have a point. After all, it is possible to mistakenly be racist. Intent is not a part of the definition. Neither is malice, though it is often seen in conjunction.
I'm not saying you are racist. 100%. No chance you can deny it. I am also not saying you are a terrible person and should be ashamed. I don't know you well enough to make that judgment call. What I am saying is, intentionally or not, malicious or not, you either had a racist thought that slipped by your mental filters, or you didn't explain your reasoning and people jumped to conclusions. Instead of getting defensive about it, learn from it and explain yourself.
I find you can more easily nip these things in the bud if you get used to questioning yourself. Why do you have this thought about Tavia? Do other characters meet the same qualifications? If so, then do you have the same thought about them? Why, or why not? Simple questions like that can go a long way towards not only avoiding situations like this, but also being more fair towards other people.
You're not wrong or racist to hope that Tavia becomes a mother figure for Clementine in season 2. She's a good character from what little we've seen of her. Gentle, yet confident enough to stroll right into a camp of strangers. Well-spoken, and good at diffusing a tense situation with a weapon aimed at her. Heck, she's a pudgy black woman as a playable avatar. That's a first from what I've seen beyond games with create-a-character mechanics in place.
Lastly, I have no means to claim you are wrong. Tavia may indeed be Lee's wife. I find it highly unlikely, but I can't deny the possibility. I apologize if hearing this is getting old, but I don't like seeing someone who means well end up not understanding where an objection comes from, especially when the objections aren't explained properly. I'm only trying to give out a little advice, as annoying as that can be when it isn't asked.
About this; it wouldn't be the first time a character's voice was changed. Remember that the voice on the radio sounded very different than when you meet in person. They were two different voice actor's after all.
Not that it means Tavia is Lee's wife. This argument simply doesn't disprove it.
You've piqued my interest.
As for the vince situation, it has a lot more evidence, but to me they don't really look like brothers.
YES glenn was in Debut and yes Vinces brother was in trouble, but you are putting 2 and 2 together and getting 28, In the comics, you see a " FINAL WARNING " letter in Glens car, Obviously he Owes SOME KIND OF FORMAL COMPANY MONEY.....Mabey he took out a legit loan from a bank, who knows, and Vinces brother was most likley in trouble with some GANGSTA types because if Vinces brother owed the bank a lot of money, why the hell would Vince go shoot someone? Its insane, think about it, Hell i love my own sister but if she borrowed money and could not pay the bank back i would help her by loaning her money....Not shooting the bank manager.....see my point? I hope we can now stop with the whole VINCE - GLEN BRO theory because its retarded, not EVERYONE in TWD is connected ya know.
Im just sick and tired of dumb people...if it somehow turns out to be his bro then i WILL apologise and feel like an asshole, but i just KNOW it wont.
I'd say Boyd sounds older/wiser in 400 Days than in episode 4, and the accents sound pretty different. He didn't sound as tired or old in episode 4. Clive's voice is definitely different, too, though as you said, he only had four words. But even then, I'd say he sounds authoritative in 400 Days (which my sister would definitely vouch for, she *loves* his 400 Days voice for some reason, lol), whereas he's the one who sounded rather old and tired in episode 4. It could be a matter of him being more sickly back then, though. I'm not sure if he was one of the ones who was "sick and needed constant care", the other being Joyce, of course.
In any case, they apparently changed the voice actors for 400 Days, so they're naturally going to sound a bit different, anyway.
Dude no need to get so hostile, it's just an idea. I still think they are brothers, I don't care what other people say or any other evidence that is against this fact. Like Lilly Caul in the game actually being the one in in the comics (whereas Robert Kirkman said they aren't), this is my 'headcanon'.
Edit: Never mind, just read the thread that you made. Homophobia and ignorance isn't gonna help you're argument. Noticed you are banned now anyway so it doesn't matter.