Did Nate know the old couple or where they Lying?
Said something about guys attacking with Masks,do you think Nate attacked and stole from them before and that he was telling the truth when he said he doesn't know them.I got the feeling that he did know them.
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It's pretty far away though isn't it,could be another group of bandits though there are alot out there.
Some people have pointed out that Nate may know because he makes Russell take a peek at the sniper without getting a glance himself. This is not entirely the case since if you decide to do nothing, he actually goes and does it himself. Plus he probably wouldn't even suggest this little stunt if he already knew where they were.
The old man is referencing to masks which we usually see on bandits. If he had just started to bark at Nate WITHOUT saying the whole "think you can leave your mask at home?" it would be much more clear cut. Yet, they make him say this line which makes the whole deal much more complicated since he could have seen any masked men and in his panic to protect his wife would just confuse them with Nate. I think the fact that they included this specific line the way they did tells something. What we do seem to know is that the robbers were white since he just insults Russ in a dismissing manner "and now you are with this fucking spook" which tells there were not a guy like him before. There's also a line in which he uses a plural in reference to the earlier incident which makes me believe there were a group of white men/women. Nate was traveling alone.
Finally, the old man clearly saw someone with a mask and Nate doesn't strike me as a type to use masks. At all. You all saw how casually he pulled all the shit he did in the game. He doesn't really come up with excuses. When Russ calls him out for not covering him, he just jokes about it. He's not exactly doing a good job of "trying to hide his real self". He didn't appear to have any regrets or sense of secrecy since he killed the old couple in front of Russell (or at hearing distance) despite just meeting him. He also genuinely didn't seem to understand what the big deal was if Russ decided to protest and just goes and asks "Can we still be friends?". I'd believe bandits with the common sense of using masks tend to act different around total strangers who could rat them out. Obviously they have something to hide since they bother to cover themselves. Nate doesn't even care and lets Russ go if he so chooses, though he did seem upset over losing a "friend".
IMO this whole ordeal had to do with Nate's vengeful nature joined with twisted morals. He did the same with Eddie and Wyatt. After Eddie shot his friend he was hellbent on getting them both and after the old couple shot at him and Russ he seemed really obsessed at getting his hands on 'the fucker who shot us'. He even says it to the old man himself ("You tried to kill us for no goddamn reason, if anything we should take you out for that"). Also, when he then asks Russ whether they should just 'kill these folks and take all their stuff', he's clearly dickishly joking about what he heard from Russ earlier. I don't think it's evidence about him being a robber. He even says it was a joke but had apparently already made his mind about killing the old couple. I just think it was more about 'eye for an eye' than deliberately targeting them just to steal their stuff. The stuff was just a bonus.
Who knows, I might be wrong but this is how I see it.
Wow thats really well said and after reading it I have changed my mind that I think Nate didn't know them,you made alot of good points that supported that argument.
But, in TWD you never know.... He may be mentally unstable to the point where he gained a sense of enjoyment by wounding the old people and letting them suffer till he came back.
However, I am 99% sure he didn't know the old people. The gun shot wounds happened fairly close to the same day and Nate was driving from the opposite direction when he met Russ.
Still, I'm not sure masked bandit-ry is Nate's bag. Then again, unpredictability.
I support this.
Nate may not have had a mask but there's nothing to say he didn't have one. We know from Wyatt's story that Nate DID have a friend. Who's to say there wasn't more of them? Who's to say he wasn't in a group originally? Nate seems pretty determined to get into the dinner and he shows no remorse when he shoots the couple even if Russell tells him not to hurt them. Yeah the old guy was shooting at them but his wife was injured, he was trying to protect himself AND her.
I DO think he was a bandit. He drove by the diner in Wyatt's story, and since we see him in the same area again in Russell's story, I wouldn't be surprised if he was driving down the Georgia backroads looking for survivors to rob or kill. As for why he took Russell with him, well: "You're gonna get eaten out here otherwise, and I'm bored." It was just dumb luck he didn't blow Russell's brains out and steal his bag upon meeting him.
1. You mentioned that Nate was alone, but Eddie and Wyatt spoke as if there was more people that just Nate and his friend, mentioning that there were "guys" that got angry at them for shooting Nate's friend as a plural a couple of times and saying "that one guy's eyes (Nate)" which they wouldn't need to do if it was just him, and wouldn't do if it was just him and his dead friend either. This could possibly suggest that Nate was maybe in a larger group but separated from them to chase Wyatt and Eddie.
2. If Russell responds to Nate's offer of whiskey with "I don't want that sh*t," Nate will get offended and mentioned that he almost died to "procure" the alcohol. This suggests that Nate may have collected the whiskey on a raid with a larger group.
I think it's unlikely that he had met the old couple, but it is possible that he was affiliated with bandits or raiders earlier on.
That's why I said 'vengeful nature joined by twisted morals'. The fact that he killed the old couple in cold blood and took their stuff doesn't take away the chance of 'eye for an eye' mentality, nor does it mean he knew them before. Actually that quote you used sounds like something Nate might think as a totally justified way to answer someone's "crimes". He seems to completely lack the empathy for the old couple and totally disregards whatever motives they had for their actions. The fact that they tried to kill him and Russ "for no goddamn reason" could in Nate's opinion be enough justification to go and kill them instead. I support the theory that Nate hadn't met the old couple before (for reasons I have stated in an earlier post) so the old man was trying to kill them for something they didn't do and Nate's response was a very aggressive one with no room to sympathize with the couple's situation. He seemed obsessed about getting some payback. When he said "Well, we gotta get in there, the fucker shot at us!!!" he seemed dead serious and angry about that. I mean, did you see Russell's expression in response to that? At no point does Nate refer going after them because of wanting to steal from them... well, except when he starts to dickishly joke about what Russ told him about Steve. Sure, he didn't have any problems with actually taking their stuff but I do not believe it was the main purpose of killing them and definitely not evidence that he had been there before for that reason. He did say, before shit hit the fan, that they should fill up and look for some supplies, which is perfectly logical idea when coming to a seemingly abandoned place like this. What's not to take then after the 'real deal' is over? At least that's what Nate seems to think.
I'm not arguing whether he has done robbing before or not. He might have stolen fair amount of stuff before, might have even killed folks for it, but that doesn't change what I was originally trying to point out: that I do not believe he was the masked bandit the old man was talking about. The question was about whether he knew the old couple from before. Not whether he was a bandit or not at some point of his life.