I think Larry and Lily are really bad blood

edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
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Some people favor them because of some good traits, or character, but I hate them most of times.

First, Larry, actually I don't care about his bad temper, problem is I'm sick of his moral choice.

Lee took the risk of his own life to get him heart medicine, and saved Larry, next moment Larry did was knocking Lee out on the ground leaving him to death.

I know Larry could be scared of a convicted murderer who might threaten their safety, but just seconds ago Lee saved Larry's life, not months ago. How could Larry attack the one who just saved his life?

I don't think he deserved the death at the dairy, but I think he is worse than Ben or Kenny.


and about Lilly, I don't care about her bad temper or the violent attitude either, but the moment she killed Carley, I lost every bit of affection for this character.
I've read Carley's death is inevitable, so there won't be any possibility I can like Lilly.

Some people say 'why is everyone so upset about Carley's death, things just happen'
but not like this. Lilly can do crazy thing when situation goes bad, she is paranoid and obsessed,

I think Larry and Lilly are too rigid and impulsive, they are the ones who really threaten the group.
Their morality is too low to survive. Their priority is always survival, but it is animal kind level, not for human life.
I don't like Kenny or Ben either, but their moral choice is kinda understandable.

sorry for my bad grammar.

Comments

  • edited August 2013
    Larry is a chubby asshole

    Lilly is a cold hearted bitch
  • edited August 2013
    Amen to that brother, that is what they are and that is what they are now, except Larry he is just plain dead.
  • edited August 2013
    frankly. Lily's problem is that she was paranoid. nothign about being cold-hearted. just PARANOID. which is understandable if you had you're dad killed by a moustache.

    But then again, she shot Doug. oh, and Carley as well.

    I agree with Mustache Man on Larry though.
  • edited August 2013
    Larry was pretty justified...
    I mean lee was a murderer...
    And Lilly was just Paranoid and in a position she was not fit for...
  • edited August 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    Larry was pretty justified...
    I mean lee was a murderer...
    And Lilly was just Paranoid and in a position she was not fit for...

    I would understand Larry's hatred but he is not only mean to Lee to everybody who doesn't agree with Lilly's leadership . And also , this murderer saved this guy's life . If he was a cold blooded murderer he would refused to help Larry and he would of said " Fuck this old bastard ! He can rot in Hell for all I care . "
  • edited August 2013
    Time to repeat an unpopular opinion.

    I enjoyed Larry's character. I'd much rather have an abrasive character that reflects realistic strife and lets you respond accordingly than say, a character like Molly, who's condescending attitude is just supposed to be seen as cool. Yes the guy is a shameless dick, but he felt human to me. He threatens you, but emphasizes that it's on his daughter and Clementine's behalf. He acts more repulsed than anyone when he realizes what the Saint Johns are doing. Heck, he'll help save your life (or attempt to) if you trust him with your axe.
    Despite his antagonistic role, he's not a one-dimensional villain, just another conflicting personality forced into the same boat you're in; and I found that interesting.

    Lilly's character is a bit more in-depth. Less harsh for the sake of it, and more to emphasize what she feels needs to be done. She stands by her father, acknowledging that he's a dick, but respects him as the only family she has left. After losing him she goes over the edge. I can see why people would leave her behind after she shoots someone, but I still think she's one of the more well-rounded characters of the group.
  • edited August 2013
    Mikejames wrote: »
    Time to repeat an unpopular opinion.

    I enjoyed Larry's character. I'd much rather have an abrasive character that reflects realistic strife and lets you respond accordingly than say, a character like Molly, who's condescending attitude is just supposed to be seen as cool. Yes the guy is a shameless dick, but he felt human to me. He threatens you, but emphasizes that it's on his daughter and Clementine's behalf. He acts more repulsed than anyone when he realizes what the Saint Johns are doing. Heck, he'll help save your life (or at attempt try to) if you trust him with your axe.
    Despite his antagonistic role, he's not a one-dimensional villain, just another conflicting personality forced into the same boat you're in; and I found that interesting.

    Lilly's character is a bit more in-depth. Less harsh for the sake of it, and more to emphasize what she feels needs to be done. She stands by her father, acknowledging that he's a dick, but respects him as the only family she has left. After losing him she goes over the edge. I can see why people would leave her behind after she shoots someone, but I still think she's one of the more well-rounded characters of the group.

    Yeah I agree I don't like either but there good characters, I don't hate either though or want them to die though I don't exactly forgive them for what they did in the story
  • edited August 2013
    If I was in Larry's shoes and I knew a murder was in my group I would be shit scared!
    I wouldn't go to the extent of punching him in the face and leaving him for dead but I can see where he is coming from. He is putting his and Lilly's life on the line having a murder in the group. We know that Lee won't lash out and kill everyone but how can he know that?
    As for Lilly she was mentally ill, In all honesty that is an excuse for what happened and she did need help. I was neither team Lilly or Kenny but I did side with Kenny in the meat locker and I believe that she had every right to hate us for what we did. I must say that we did have an influence in her mental state causing her to kill Doug/Carley.
  • edited August 2013
    I never understand why people hate Lilly for killing Carley/Doug it was Kenny who killed her dad making her paranoid and she was just trying to do the right thing in finding the thief and Carley saw how pissed Lilly was so why would you poke the bear?

    #ItsKenny'sFault
  • edited August 2013
    Mikejames wrote: »
    Time to repeat an unpopular opinion.

    I enjoyed Larry's character. I'd much rather have an abrasive character that reflects realistic strife and lets you respond accordingly than say, a character like Molly, who's condescending attitude is just supposed to be seen as cool. Yes the guy is a shameless dick, but he felt human to me. He threatens you, but emphasizes that it's on his daughter and Clementine's behalf. He acts more repulsed than anyone when he realizes what the Saint Johns are doing. Heck, he'll help save your life (or attempt to) if you trust him with your axe.
    Despite his antagonistic role, he's not a one-dimensional villain, just another conflicting personality forced into the same boat you're in; and I found that interesting.

    Lilly's character is a bit more in-depth. Less harsh for the sake of it, and more to emphasize what she feels needs to be done. She stands by her father, acknowledging that he's a dick, but respects him as the only family she has left. After losing him she goes over the edge. I can see why people would leave her behind after she shoots someone, but I still think she's one of the more well-rounded characters of the group.


    Unpopular or not, I agree with it, especially the bolded bits.

    They're both very well written characters.
  • edited August 2013
    How it is Kenny's fault, if anything Larry should have calmed down, Lilly should have tired harder to get him to calm down, and the Saint Johns did all of that, there is never one reason something happened in Walking Dead, no exceptions here, you could blame anyone for something if you think about it.
  • edited August 2013
    St.John brothers did not kill Larry when he was still alive. And Lilly was sick.
  • edited August 2013
    They did indirectly, anyone can be blamed for it, finding blame for someones death is not as clear cut as you think, and this is just one example.
  • edited August 2013
    Well I saw Kenny with the salt lick and I saw him throw it at Larry's head so...

    #ItsKenny'sFault
  • edited August 2013
    Ehkay,
    CPR cannot restart the heart. It is simply just to buy some time, but it cannot save somebody. It needs a defibrillator with it to restart the heart. Kenny (and Lee if you choose to) saved Clementine, Lee, Your little precious princess; Lilly, and Kenny. End of story. Thus, it is not Kenny's fault.
    #It'sNotKenny'sFaultAndHashtagsSuck
  • edited August 2013
    I agree, and even if they had saved Larry he would not be going anywhere, he is so big no one could ever have picked him up, he was destined to die in that meatlocker.
  • edited August 2013
    I agree, and even if they had saved Larry he would not be going anywhere, he is so big no one could ever have picked him up, he was destined to die in that meatlocker.

    But..But.. we did not even get to say goodbye. The only thing left of him is his blood all over Lilly :(.
  • edited August 2013
    I've done a whole analysis on the big man if you want my opinion on him look there. Lilly on the other hands I'll make one on her later
  • edited August 2013
    coolkid12 wrote: »
    I've done a whole analysis on the big man if you want my opinion on him look there. Lilly on the other hands I'll make one on her later

    Go easy on her please she is very upset.
  • edited August 2013
    I'm gonna go smash my face against a brick wall.
  • edited August 2013
    Ehkay wrote: »
    Go easy on her please she is very upset.

    Yeah, if we don't go easy on her, she might spontaneously decide to murder ANOTHER innocent person...
  • edited August 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    Yeah, if we don't go easy on her, she might spontaneously decide to murder ANOTHER innocent person...

    That or she will turn into a Super Saiyan .
    Lee: Kenny , what does the scouter say about her power level ?
    Kenny: IT'S OVER 9000 !
    Lee: WHAT 9000 !? There is no way , that can't be right !
  • edited August 2013
    That or she will turn into a Super Saiyan .
    Lee: Kenny , what does the scouter say about her power level ?
    Kenny: IT'S OVER 9000 !
    Lee: WHAT 9000 !? There is no way , that can't be right !

    That is why I am on her side so I am safe :)
  • edited August 2013
    Ehkay wrote: »
    That is why I am on her side so I am safe :)

    Oh yeah , and then Carley turns into a Super Saiyan and then both of them fight for ten episodes . Oh and then Clementine grows a tail and when she looks at the moon and she turns into a giant ape and then Ben accidently blows up the moon . And Nate is Majin Buu .
  • edited August 2013
    Even as a giant ape , Clem would still look cute . :D
  • edited August 2013
    I see you like Anime, good job, plus 2 respect points.
  • edited August 2013
    hahaa... I have no clue what is going on... I saw one vhs tape full of DBZ and that's about it.
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