Why do I feel guilty of killing Larry at dairy?

edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
I already wrote in other post that I hate Larry. (+Lily)

I chose to kill him only because, last time I decided not to kill him, Kenny's been so mean to me whole time, even when he was my side.

After I killed Larry, Kenny became kinda ok in whatever situation, it's funny that the morality of this game is sometimes unrealistic.

Anyway...

I really really hate Larry, but I felt so guilty for killing Larry, like he was a real person. and thinking that Larry tried to kill Lee at the drugstore, Larry brought this to himself a bit,
but i still feel bad about that I chose to kill this heart-stopped-bad-ass.

I let go of Ben to death because he was also annoying, but I didn't feel much guilt about it.

So.... is this about killing a father in front of his daughter?(even if he might be already dead and could turn into 6-feet-all-muscle-monster)

I would have shot duck in front of Kenny if it was necessary, (the kid was kinda annoying too)

but why not Larry?
Because killing someone with salt lick was too brutal?

I don't know. just curious.
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  • edited August 2013
    His daughter was watching, and refused to believe he was dead. Was he? Well, that's also part of it. We don't know. I helped Kenny, and I felt guilty afterward. There was nothing nice about that situation.
  • edited August 2013
    I felt guilty also, I did not want to do it, but it had to be done for the group, like Katjaa said, sometimes the right thing to do is just scary or something you don't want to do.
  • edited August 2013
    I to felt very guilty, I didn't fully support the decision but I was convinced enough to side with Kenny. I really didn't want to put everyone's life on the line for the slim chance of him surviving, at least I had Kenny to make me feel like I made the right choice. Like Lee says "We were assholes together I guess".
  • edited August 2013
    his daughter was watching and from a conversationwith Lilly at the dairy she says her dad was the only thing she got left in thr world..I couldnt leave her alone so I tried to save him
  • edited August 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    His daughter was watching, and refused to believe he was dead. Was he? Well, that's also part of it. We don't know. I helped Kenny, and I felt guilty afterward. There was nothing nice about that situation.

    No he wasn't dead; if you help Lilly then Larry's lips begin to move just before the lick is thrown on him.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    No he wasn't dead; if you help Lilly then Larry's lips begin to move just before the lick is thrown on him.

    That could mean he was about to bite you though.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    That could mean he was about to bite you though.

    He doesn't look at all like a walker when his lips move, unlike David parker who would have changed in a similar amount of time, or the prisoner who changed in even LESS time than parker.

    He was alive.
  • edited August 2013
    Meh. I didn't feel guilt there. I already explained in the other thread why. Besides, Larry sealed his fate by himself by being a complete total raging idiot he always was- to the very end. Pounding on that door and screaming your lungs out- what the hell exactly was that gonna change? Oh yeah, all the stress might give you a heart attack! He should have learned from his episode 1 experience and calmed the fuck down when we repeatedly told him to. In my eyes, he wasn't worth saving. If he wasn't a threat to Clementine at the moment, I still would have tried, but he doesn't really deserve it. But him basically voluntarily putting her and everyone else in danger sealed his fate right there. No regrets.
  • edited August 2013
    Isn't Larry getting nervous over the fact that Duck may be bitten essentially the same as wanting to kill Larry because he MIGHT be dead?
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    He doesn't look at all like a walker when his lips move, unlike David parker who would have changed in a similar amount of time, or the prisoner who changed in even LESS time than parker.

    He was alive.

    Most of the time when people turn it takes few days before they look like a zombie,i think the david parker face was a mistake,anyways there is no way to know for sure.It was purposely ambigious so there would be no right or wrong option.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Isn't Larry getting nervous over the fact that Duck may be bitten essentially the same as wanting to kill Larry because he MIGHT be dead?

    We knew 100% that Duck wasn't bitten.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    He doesn't look at all like a walker when his lips move, unlike David parker who would have changed in a similar amount of time, or the prisoner who changed in even LESS time than parker.

    He was alive.

    You can't restart a heart with CPR alone, sadly.
    That means that if Ben hadn't told them about the zombie thing....
    Clem, Lee, Lilly, and Kenny would've died in that meat locker.
    :(
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Isn't Larry getting nervous over the fact that Duck may be bitten essentially the same as wanting to kill Larry because he MIGHT be dead?

    I'm getting tired of this argument. It's pretty bloody obvious that this is on a whole different level. Here's a comparison for ya:

    Larry was clinically dead. We MAY have been able to revive him, but with only CPR at our disposal, it's a slim chance. There's a reason ambulances are called when someone gets a heart attack. You NEED proper medical equipment to ensure survival. Duck, on the other hand, wasn't dying and we weren't even sure that he WAS bitten. Duck might have been bitten, which means he still had time before he DIED, then came back. Larry might have DIED already, which could mean he was moments from coming back. The time in Larry's case is much more crucial.

    Another important thing is that Duck is a little boy. I sincerely doubt him turning into a walker posed any real threat to the adults. Larry is physically stronger than any adult in the group. Plus, in Duck's case they had weapons. In Larry's case they did not, and they were stuck in a far smaller area.

    So you see, it's not essentially the same. God I hope it's the last I see of this comparison.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Isn't Larry getting nervous over the fact that Duck may be bitten essentially the same as wanting to kill Larry because he MIGHT be dead?

    Larry thought Duck was bitten because he was "covered in muck."

    Kenny thought Larry was dead because he clutched his heart, dropped to the ground, and stopped breathing.
  • edited August 2013
    Another important thing is that Duck is a little boy. I sincerely doubt him turning into a walker posed any real threat to the adults.

    One word. Duckpocalypse.

    I agree with everything else though.
  • edited August 2013
    I still think if Larry turned the group could still easily kill him,he would bite at least one person first though
  • edited August 2013
    Larry thought Duck was bitten because he was "covered in muck."

    Kenny thought Larry was dead because he clutched his heart, dropped to the ground, and stopped breathing.

    Duck fell on the ground with a walker on top of him.

    Larry started breathing again.
  • edited August 2013
    I suppose it just comes down to how you played your Lee;

    Mine was more interested in trying to save everyone, perhaps this was foolish. However, it never bit me in the ass once, and so this is the mantra I shall be carrying into Season 2 :)
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Duck fell on the ground with a walker on top of him.

    Larry started breathing again.

    Larry didn't start breathing again before you did your CPR, did he?
    Actually, all he did was twitch. That's all.
    Also, like I said, you cannot restart a heart with CPR. You NEED a defibrillator.
    Thus, killing Larry was essential to their survival, while Larry was arguing about killing a boy.
  • edited August 2013
    Larry didn't start breathing again before you did your CPR, did he?
    Actually, all he did was twitch. That's all.
    Also, like I said, you cannot restart a heart with CPR. You NEED a defibrillator.
    Thus, killing Larry was essential to their survival, while Larry was arguing about killing a boy.

    Then why does he start breathing again?

    Perhaps his heart didn't actually stop.

    I'm probably just saying all of this crap because I tried to save him on my first runthrough and it turned out that he wasn't dead, and thus I'm feeling smug haha :p but he DEFINATELY does start breathing again, and he don't look like no walker when he does it.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Then why does he start breathing again?

    Perhaps his heart didn't actually stop.

    And if it did?
    We can't risk 4 people over ONE man.
  • edited August 2013
    I tried to save him too but we'll never know if he was still alive or had turned,when someone turns the only thing that is different is their eyes,it takes days for the flesh to rot away.
  • edited August 2013
    I agree, I think they added the whole rotting skin to show they really are dead, you do not need to be rotting to be a walker.
  • edited August 2013
    I agree, I think they added the whole rotting skin to show they really are dead, you do not need to be rotting to be a walker.

    Yeah I mean just look at Amy in the TV Show for an example.
  • edited August 2013
    I agree, I think they added the whole rotting skin to show they really are dead, you do not need to be rotting to be a walker.

    The prisoner on the bus had rotting skin and he had barely been dead for 2 minutes!
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    The prisoner on the bus had rotting skin and he had barely been dead for 2 minutes!

    2 words... REUSED MODELS. It's done to save money.
  • edited August 2013
    And if it did?
    We can't risk 4 people over ONE man.

    Well clearly you CAN risk that as it pays off. Well, it would have if Kenny wasn't so crazeh.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    2 words... REUSED MODELS. It's done to save money.

    Was David Parker a re-used model too then? He turned in hardly any time; Katjaa must have still believed he was alive while working on him.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Well clearly you CAN risk that as it pays off. Well, it would have if Kenny wasn't so crazeh.

    Telltale themselves confirmed it was left to be ambigious so no one will ever now.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Was David Parker a re-used model too then? He turned in hardly any time; Katjaa must have still believed he was alive while working on him.

    The zombie "makeup" or texture is what is reused.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    The zombie "makeup" or texture is what is reused.

    Why did they re-use it at all then, why didn't they just keep their skin the same?
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    Telltale themselves confirmed it was left to be ambigious so no one will ever now.

    Watch the scene, it is clearly not ambiguous.

    I don't know if he breathes in the helping kenny version, but he definately does in the helping Lilly version.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Why did they re-use it at all then, why didn't they just keep their skin the same?

    Because they wanted to emphasise that he had turned? Either way it was a mistake by the writers,it goes against the Canon rules.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Watch the scene, it is clearly not ambiguous.

    I don't know if he breathes in the helping kenny version, but he definately does in the helping Lilly version.

    Are you seriously going against what TELLTALE the creators of the game have announced to be fact.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    Because they wanted to emphasise that he had turned? Either way it was a mistake by the writers,it goes against the Canon rules.

    If they wanted to emphasize that he had turned, then Larry would have the skin if he was dead.

    There is NO walker in the game series that hasn't had that appearance.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    Are you seriously going against what TELLTALE the creators of the game have announced to be fact.

    I just don't understand how it could POSSIBLY be ambiguous. Did tellatle specifically address why Larry took a breath?
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    If they wanted to emphasize that he had turned, then Larry would have the skin if he was dead.

    There is NO walker in the game series that hasn't had that appearance.

    Thats because we've never seen a walker when they initially turned
  • edited August 2013
    Your not getting it, it's only in the game that seems to happen, in the show AND comic there are walkers that do not have dead skin.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    I just don't understand how it could POSSIBLY be ambiguous. Did tellatle specifically address why Larry took a breath?

    Yes so people would either believe that he was brought back to live from the CPR or that he reanimated and was about to bite.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    I just don't understand how it could POSSIBLY be ambiguous.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonal_respiration
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