Regarding Kenny's Inevitable return in season 2

edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
I was under the impression that Kenny WANTED to die when he did, especially in Ben's scenario.

Doesn't he say something like 'Either I save the kid, or I get to see my wife and child again' OWTTE? In that case, why would he have even tried to escape down a manhole or w/e?

I really hope we don't have him in our group again, I grew tired of him being in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE. Bring on the new characters!

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  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    I was under the impression that Kenny WANTED to die when he did, especially in Ben's scenario.

    Doesn't he say something like 'Either I save the kid, or I get to see my wife and child again' OWTTE? In that case, why would he have even tried to escape down a manhole or w/e?

    I really hope we don't have him in our group again, I grew tired of him being in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE. Bring on the new characters!

    If that's the case than Clem , Lilly , Molly , Omid and Christa should never return because they are old characters and we need new ones .
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    I was under the impression that Kenny WANTED to die when he did, especially in Ben's scenario.

    Doesn't he say something like 'Either I save the kid, or I get to see my wife and child again' OWTTE? In that case, why would he have even tried to escape down a manhole or w/e?

    I really hope we don't have him in our group again, I grew tired of him being in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE. Bring on the new characters!

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  • edited August 2013
    If that's the case than Clem , Lilly , Molly , Omid and Christa should never return because they are old characters and we need new ones .

    I have no issue with most of them RETURNING, just not becoming group members.

    Except for clem, because she's the one that fewest people dislike out of all those, so would be the least offensive to make return.
  • edited August 2013
    I don't think he wanted to die, it was was just set up that way. Kenny would be a real hypocrite if he makes this big anti-suicide speech then just commits it lol
  • edited August 2013
    To be honest, as long as we're ways to disagreed with him that we didn't have in season 1 ('A boat you say? How will that actually help anything?'), or ways to make him a non compulsary member of our group, then it'll be fine.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    I have no issue with most of them RETURNING, just not becoming group members.

    Except for clem, because she's the one that fewest people dislike out of all those, so would be the least offensive to make return.

    Wait Molly , Omid and Christa have haters ? :confused:
  • edited August 2013
    Wait Molly , Omid and Christa have haters ? :confused:

    I don't see how anyone could possibly hate Omid or Christa, I do Dislike Molly However and hope she is not in season 2.
  • edited August 2013
    Wait Molly , Omid and Christa have haters ? :confused:

    Perhpas not too many with Omid, but lots of people dislike Christa (they don't like being told off for the way they interact with clem) and LOADS of people think Molly is just some kind of Anime ninja who has no place in the walking dead.
  • edited August 2013
    I can see people not liking Christa, as she's prys into conversations and seems sorta bossy. How could anyone hate Bromid though???
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Perhpas not too many with Omid, but lots of people dislike Christa (they don't like being told off for the way they interact with clem) and LOADS of people think Molly is just some kind of Anime ninja who has no place in the walking dead.

    Yeah I totally agree with the Molly bit.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    I don't see how anyone could possibly hate Omid or Christa, I do Dislike Molly However and hope she is not in season 2.

    Just like I hope that Kenny is not in season 2.

    Since you are saying essentially the same thing as I am, just for a different character, why were you so angry at this thread? People have different tastes mate. :p
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Just like I hope that Kenny is not in season 2.

    Since you are saying essentially the same thing as I am, just for a different character, why were you so angry at this thread? People have different tastes mate. :p

    I wasn't really angry just kidding around with Memes. Lol
  • edited August 2013
    Kenny was an awesome character, but seriously I think we've seen enough of him. Really, the only character who had more screen time than him was Lee, the fucking player character. Give some other characters the spotlight.
  • edited August 2013
    Kenny was an awesome character, but seriously I think we've seen enough of him. Really, the only character who had more screen time than him was Lee, the fucking player character. Give some other characters the spotlight.

    Clem probably had more screen time than him, not certain though.
  • edited August 2013
    I don't think he wanted to die, it was was just set up that way. Kenny would be a real hypocrite if he makes this big anti-suicide speech then just commits it lol

    Thank God no one in our group ever did anything hypocritical am I right?
  • edited August 2013
    No, no one ever did that *hint, Lilly.*
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Clem probably had more screen time than him, not certain though.

    Well, Clem was missing for most of Episode 5, and she could've been left at the house with Omid in Episode 4. Even if you did bring her, Kenny probably had more screen time then Clem.
  • edited August 2013
    No, no one ever did that *hint, Lilly.*

    Or you know, Kenny. Or Vernon. Or Nate. etc.
  • edited August 2013
    Mikejames wrote: »
    Or you know, Kenny. Or Vernon. Or Nate. etc.

    Even Lee, as Clementine is so quick to point out. "You said I'm always supposed to stay close to you. :("
  • edited August 2013
    He probably did die before the developers decided to bring him back, most likely because of fanservice. :rolleyes:
    Flog61 wrote: »
    I really hope we don't have him in our group again

    Hey now, I agree with you that he shouldn't return, but he was an amazing character!
  • edited August 2013
    I really don't see why Kenny would return. He seemed to lose the will to live after his family died anyway, I don't think he really wanted to be alive anymore.
  • edited August 2013
    I want Kenny to return (alive!) but not as a permanent member of the group. I don't think Telltale intends to do that, as they only said that his fate would be "explored". That doesn't mean becoming a permanent group member. As an older character from Season 1, he could show up for an Episode (but no more), do stuff, then die/leave. Season 2 shouldn't be ALL about the old characters.
  • edited August 2013
    I don't want Kenny in S2,he was kinda suicidal after his family died and I dont think he wanted to survive.."Kenny's fate will be explored" just as same as Doug and Carley will be in 400 days?.. this doesnt mean Kenny will be in S2..this could mean everything.
    all the Kenny fans are mad at this thread..but not every1 are team Kenny ;)
  • edited August 2013
    Zeruis wrote: »
    He probably did die before the developers decided to bring him back, most likely because of fanservice. :rolleyes:


    Hey now, I agree with you that he shouldn't return, but he was an amazing character!

    Well, he was in your opinion. I thought he was a bit too whiny, and he always disagreed with *my* version of lee.

    I think as a character, Lilly, while more dis-likable, was actually a more *interesting* character.

    The only reason Kenny was quite interesting is because we saw so damn much of him; if he had died instead of Katjaa or Shawn, then they would probably have become more interesting to us.
  • edited August 2013
    I just feel Kenny's character should stay gone. People can think he's alive if they want and people can think he's dead if they want.

    I personally don't like him (sorry Kenny fans), holds grudges way too long and is too self centred. I at the most came to a mutual acceptance of him in ep 5 and surely his fans can see he went out a hero (probably the best way in the walking dead) if he comes back he might have a way worse fate.
  • edited August 2013
    Even Lee, as Clementine is so quick to point out. "You said I'm always supposed to stay close to you. :("
    Im from holland and my english aint that good, stop being a racist.

    What?
  • edited August 2013
    If Kenny survives his sacrifice in Episode 5 meant nothing and it would all in all weaken the character...
    I spent the majority of the game (Episode 3 onwards) at odds with him but at the end he found some way of almost redeeming himself...
    If he survived the only thing that made me not hate him is gone...
  • edited August 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    If Kenny survives his sacrifice in Episode 5 meant nothing and it would all in all weaken the character...

    Kenny's "sacrifice" is a joke as far as Ben's scene is concerned IMO. In Christa's version, he also has a somewhat higher chance of escaping the walkers, so his survival wouldn't completely destroy the franchise's credibility, as some fans believe.

    I know I've made this comparison before, but there are a lot of Trekkies who insist to this day that Spock's return in STAR TREK III weakened his character, and this is a guy who actually died on-screen. Kenny's fate is still up for grabs...at least until Telltale decides it for us.

    One reason I've been vouching for Kenny to be season 2's PC is because it just seems to be the next natural step of his character metamorphosis. Telltale has already gone on record about "death" being one of the game's biggest themes - how we die, and more importantly, how we get there. I just like the notion of Telltale allowing us to determine the final chapter of Kenny's life. (Meaning that, yes, I want to see him die for good by the end of S2.)
  • edited August 2013
    I have not disagreed with him dying in the end, it is likely that even if he made it out of Savannah, something else will still get him, but determining how that final chapter goes would be nice.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    What?

    I was responding to others naming characters in the Walking Dead that did something hypocritical. Lee telling Clementine to stay close to him and then going off without her can be seen as hypocritical. And Clem pointed that out. What's confusing about this?
  • edited August 2013
    Some guy on this thread commenting wat? on my comment, when it aint that hard to understand. I just can't spell that good

    Dude, we have posters with English as a first language that do not spell very well. I'm a disaster sometimes - I edit a lot.

    Your English is fine. Don't worry about it.
  • edited August 2013
    My reaction is simple LOL
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  • edited August 2013
    I don't understand why Telltale would give Kenny two open-ended death scenes, make him not scream of pains at all(yes I heard some type of 'scream' from him saving Christa, but sounded more like he was being dragged by somebody the way his voice was fading out)
    And if you look closer to the shot when Christa is looking over the alleyway with all the walkers...none of them are kneeling down or just going down to eat Ben or Kenny. None. I probably would understand Ben not being eaten considering theres walkers surrounding him and right when Kenny does the double he shoots Ben and then runs to the left..

    Also, explain to me why they would confirm everybody else's death in the little retrospective character stats and only Kenny who is supposedly DEAD would be the ONLY person who is 'lost to the herd'

    Yes, Lost TO the herd. Not Lost IN the Herd.

    And why would telltale make his character so big to go on for 5 episodes and simply die right there with an open-ended scene?

    Kenny is alive. No fucking doubt.
  • edited August 2013
    Lost to the heard sounds worse than lost in the herd...
  • edited August 2013
    Not really. TO basically means because of them, your status is still unknown.
    IN means you are basically never going out of that herd..

    People may see it different ways. We will know if Kenny is alive or dead this fall.
    It's fun to speculate tho.
  • edited August 2013
    "To" implies that he's at the will of the herd, like he's their plaything.
    "In" implies that he was seperated from you while you were both inside of the herd.

    Yeah, it is fun to speculate, but some speculations are kind of annoying, like that you'll play as clementine. This one is just fun to debate, though.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    I was under the impression that Kenny WANTED to die when he did, especially in Ben's scenario.

    Doesn't he say something like 'Either I save the kid, or I get to see my wife and child again' OWTTE? In that case, why would he have even tried to escape down a manhole or w/e?

    I really hope we don't have him in our group again, I grew tired of him being in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE. Bring on the new characters!

    Kenny was the only character I liked by the end other than Lee and Clementine. In my original story he hadn't left me for dead at any point since I had agreed with him on the biggest issues(if he had it would have ruined him for me), but I had still written him off after he goes into an annoying drunken depression. But when he refused to let me go look for Clementine alone, and said Lee and Clementine were the only family he had left it was one of the most emotional parts of the game to me. Then he gives a speech about never giving up and killing yourself no matter how hard it got, only to use Ben as excuse to do just that literally right after saying that. It felt like he was abandoning Clementine to commit suicide for a worthless coward who was already dead. Clementine needed him at that point considering Lee is already dead(it's just a matter of how much time he has left at that point), and I didn't trust the annoying and unproven Christa and Omid at all. It just didn't fit; not in my story anyway.
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