Sometimes being alive is more painful than dying. I did not kill any of them, because I think that is the best way to pay for what they did (They were left with nothing, food, shelter, protection and mother).
If you look good, to kill them both, may have only diminished his suffering after all.
I don't understand why people killed the woman in the woods. Yes she was insane but she wanted to give us further information about the dairy. So when Danny killed her, I know something bad gonna happen.
If you believe me or not already before I opened the hidden barn room I knew they were cannibals.
back to the main topic I killed both because they deserved it.
@ Xdye When you have the decision to kill Danny or not. There was no zombie attack and the mother and the brother was still alive.
* Danny just lost his leg in a bear trap. Threat neutralized, since they have no doctor to save it.
* By the time you have Andy beaten, his… more family is either dead or out of the equation. Moreover, he himself appears to be broken and seeking death. Again, threat neutralized, and that's even before the army of walkers comes through.
In both cases, the 8 year old child who looks up to you is watching everything, which meant that any time I had to kill someone I needed to make sure it was absolutely necessary in the given circumstances. I admit I hesitated for a moment about whether to kill Danny, partly because I didn't know Clem was watching, but I spared Andy without any hesitation at all.
An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Killed them both, maybe if no one died because of them in our group then maybe it would fo been different, however Larry died and I blame them for his death. He had.. C..h.. charm coming out of his ass
I didn't kill them just because I wanted to see what would happen as a result, and the result pleased me. I think they deserved to die, but I don't kill villains in games if given a choise because if he's dead, he's dead. But if he lives, we got to see more interesting situations he is placed into and often it is more interesting scenario. And ironic too.
Yeah, and times it isn't justified include 'when you are no longer in danger from the person.' This includes when the person just effectively lost their leg to a bear trap and when the person just lost their entire family and are now openly begging to be killed.
I choked the stranger to death without a second thought and without regrets. He was a continuing danger who had to be stopped, then and there. If I had let him go unharmed, he was obviously so out of touch with reality that he would have just kept coming back after us. His announcing that he'd rather kill Clem than see her with Lee just sealed it.
The St. John brothers, by contrast, were not a threat anymore. Killing them accomplished nothing except petty vengeance. And no, that isn't something I wanted Clem to learn.
Yeah maybe they wouldn't but my thinking was that if they did come back for vengeance and kill one of our members that blood would be on my hands so I didn't want to take that risk
I don't think The St. Johns would go after your group after Brenda get's killed. Sending them a message should have been enough, but I can't judge someone who thinks it's necessary to kill them. I understand.
I don't understand why people killed the woman in the woods. Yes she was insane but she wanted to give us further information about the dairy.… more So when Danny killed her, I know something bad gonna happen.
If you believe me or not already before I opened the hidden barn room I knew they were cannibals.
back to the main topic I killed both because they deserved it.
@ Xdye When you have the decision to kill Danny or not. There was no zombie attack and the mother and the brother was still alive.
Am I the only one who liked the fact that the group was watching me when I kicked Andy into the fence? I felt like I was setting an example for the group and putting a marker down,that this is how things are now and that if Kenny/Lily can't lead I will. Plus I think it's such a badass scene when Lee walks away after killing Andy and the group just watch him for a few seconds before following him
Am I the only one who liked the fact that the group was watching me when I kicked Andy into the fence? I felt like I was setting an example fo… morer the group and putting a marker down,that this is how things are now and that if Kenny/Lily can't lead I will. Plus I think it's such a badass scene when Lee walks away after killing Andy and the group just watch him for a few seconds before following him
I killed neither of them. They were going to die anyway. Danny wasn't getting out of his own trap and Andy was emotionally broken (and missed a few teeth). The zombies were going to finish them. I didn't need blood on my hands.
I didn't kill either brother. Danny's let was stuck in a trap with no release latch, leaving him very little chance of surviving amputation let alone the walkers that will soon surround him. I spared Andy, his spirit's was broken after the fall of his family, and I doubt we'll be seeing him again.
Besides, leaving them to the walkers felt more karmic.
I didn't kill either brother. Danny's let was stuck in a trap with no release latch, leaving him very little chance of surviving amputation le… moret alone the walkers that will soon surround him. I spared Andy, his spirit's was broken after the fall of his family, and I doubt we'll be seeing him again.
Besides, leaving them to the walkers felt more karmic.
Well you do have to tie up all loose ends or else they will come back to bite you in the ass later. Think about if the brothers did survive, they would have killed at least a few members of the motor inn just like how in 400 days if you don't kill the hostage he comes back to kill Boyd (I think his name was). You can't take any chances in the ZA because one false move and you're dead.
Yeah, and times it isn't justified include 'when you are no longer in danger from the person.' This includes when the person just effectively … morelost their leg to a bear trap and when the person just lost their entire family and are now openly begging to be killed.
I choked the stranger to death without a second thought and without regrets. He was a continuing danger who had to be stopped, then and there. If I had let him go unharmed, he was obviously so out of touch with reality that he would have just kept coming back after us. His announcing that he'd rather kill Clem than see her with Lee just sealed it.
The St. John brothers, by contrast, were not a threat anymore. Killing them accomplished nothing except petty vengeance. And no, that isn't something I wanted Clem to learn.
Maybe you missed this part but, you don't see walkers invading the farm until after you make the "Do you kill Andrew St. John decision or not" question. I literally had no idea the farm was going to be ransacked by zombies until after I had made my decision. There is absolutely no hint that is about to happen - they just kind of appear out of nowhere once you make your decision.
I didn't kill either brother. Danny's let was stuck in a trap with no release latch, leaving him very little chance of surviving amputation le… moret alone the walkers that will soon surround him. I spared Andy, his spirit's was broken after the fall of his family, and I doubt we'll be seeing him again.
Besides, leaving them to the walkers felt more karmic.
I didn't kill either brother, I know they were cannibalistic child killers and one a pedophile I couldn't help but feel sorry for them. The dairy was such a beautiful place and It felt so sad to see it end up the way it was, both brothers and their mother were awful people but they were suffering enough and I just couldn't bring myself to kill either of them especially Andy in front of the whole group.
What they did to people was sick, On my first playthrough i loved it when i got the opportunity to stab Danny with the pitchfork to get revenge for killing Mark and countless others but when Clementine witnessed what i did i felt guilty as she only just saw me help kill Larry, When it came to the fight with Andy and it showed the wide shot of the group watching me i decided to leave him as i felt there had been more then enough bloodshed and Clementine had seen enough brutality.
Yeah, you're right. I probably should have mentioned that the walkers appearing was more of a convenience for me than an actual objective. I should have mentioned that I spared them to a fate worse than death, and I got my answer when walkers surrounded the farm.
Maybe you missed this part but, you don't see walkers invading the farm until after you make the "Do you kill Andrew St. John decision or not"… more question. I literally had no idea the farm was going to be ransacked by zombies until after I had made my decision. There is absolutely no hint that is about to happen - they just kind of appear out of nowhere once you make your decision.
Well, when someone says "Im going to shoot your balls off" with a crossbow pointed at you, its time to stop fucking around and put that woman down. Never make threats you dont plan on going through with, thats what I believe and if you threaten me, Im going act as if its going to happen.
I don't understand why people killed the woman in the woods. Yes she was insane but she wanted to give us further information about the dairy.… more So when Danny killed her, I know something bad gonna happen.
If you believe me or not already before I opened the hidden barn room I knew they were cannibals.
back to the main topic I killed both because they deserved it.
@ Xdye When you have the decision to kill Danny or not. There was no zombie attack and the mother and the brother was still alive.
What's interesting with Shane and Philip is that it is eventually what Rick kinda heads toward. I think Philip said it best, "If I was like this from the start Penny would still be alive".
That in a nutshell my friend is why I love Role Playing games because they make you look at yourself. I played as a guy who was loyal to his g… moreroup but will kill anyone who I deem a threat to Clem and my group and yes killing the ST Johns made me more ruthless but overall I think that is for the better because I think that ruthfulness could save your life one day. I'd definitely become alot darker if it happened but for the right reasons I think.Probably why I identify so much with Shane in TV series and even the Govenor as opposed to Rick
You think you would do that in real life though? In games it makes sense kinda like the saving of Ben led to one of the best conversations in the game I thought.
I didn't kill them just because I wanted to see what would happen as a result, and the result pleased me. I think they deserved to die, but I … moredon't kill villains in games if given a choise because if he's dead, he's dead. But if he lives, we got to see more interesting situations he is placed into and often it is more interesting scenario. And ironic too.
I don't think they mentioned that one of the brothers were a pedophile unless you're thinking of Jolene and she just said "...you're just like them; all men are the same; take a little girl...". I'm pretty sure if the St.Johns were the ones that took her kid she would have shot Danny instantly since she did seem to know of them.
I didn't kill either brother, I know they were cannibalistic child killers and one a pedophile I couldn't help but feel sorry for them. The da… moreiry was such a beautiful place and It felt so sad to see it end up the way it was, both brothers and their mother were awful people but they were suffering enough and I just couldn't bring myself to kill either of them especially Andy in front of the whole group.
I killed them both with Clem and everyone watching; I just wish I could have beaten Andy to death with my fists. There was no way I was allowing the slightest chance they might live for even a moment more when I could do something about it. They shaped my choice for the abandoned car; I wasn't going to let this group come close to what the St.Johns had become even if it meant Clem hated me for it. The St.Johns left me angry enough that if someone had been at the car I think I would have killed them, taken the stuff and then felt guilty about it afterward.
What's interesting with Shane and Philip is that it is eventually what Rick kinda heads toward. I think Philip said it best, "If I was like this from the start Penny would still be alive".
I don't think they mentioned that one of the brothers were a pedophile unless you're thinking of Jolene and she just said "...you're just like… more them; all men are the same; take a little girl...". I'm pretty sure if the St.Johns were the ones that took her kid she would have shot Danny instantly since she did seem to know of them.
Sleeps with their gun? mmmm...I do. Actually I don't have a gun but I do have a machete in hands reach under the bed. If the dead were walking tell me who wouldn't be sleeping with their gun. Didn't know about the unused sound file but it is unused, maybe telltale didn't want to seal the St.John's fate.
I don't understand why people killed the woman in the woods. Yes she was insane but she wanted to give us further information about the dairy.… more So when Danny killed her, I know something bad gonna happen.
If you believe me or not already before I opened the hidden barn room I knew they were cannibals.
back to the main topic I killed both because they deserved it.
@ Xdye When you have the decision to kill Danny or not. There was no zombie attack and the mother and the brother was still alive.
I spared them both, because they were living people at the end of the day and I didn't want to have Clem witness Lee killing someone. That's effectively becoming as bad as them. Yeah they were screwed in the head but Danny was stuck in HIS OWN bear trap with no release latch so he's hardly going anywhere. It's ironic that's his trap is the thing that kills him. Andy was badly beaten and learnt the fate of his family with a hoard of walkers gaining on him, I think he learnt his lesson and don't think he would have had the energy to fight back.
Killing the St Johns was a great sense of relief for me in the game that is. First of they were cannibals, they were basically doing the same thing the walkers are doing. Secondly, the St Johns dehumanized their victims into food. They did it with one man of the group and they were about to do with the rest as well. There was no reason for Lee to treat them with any humanity they were not doing mankind any favours.
Yeah I would have a gun near but have you heard what he says, "This gun will keep you warmer at night than any girl I ever known" and see him stroking it and giving it a name "glad I got to use my girl here". There is one thing to have a gun near you for protection and another to be attracted to an inanimate object.
Sleeps with their gun? mmmm...I do. Actually I don't have a gun but I do have a machete in hands reach under the bed. If the dead were walking… more tell me who wouldn't be sleeping with their gun. Didn't know about the unused sound file but it is unused, maybe telltale didn't want to seal the St.John's fate.
My first time playing through I didn't kill Jolene because I wanted to learn all I could from her. I didn't help kill Larry because it was the morally right thing to do. I killed Danny because he was a bad man but then I was ashamed that Clementine saw so I didn't kill Andy. But in retrospect I'm glad with my decision because the lesson Clementine learned from it was that bad people need to die but sometimes you need to know when to just walk away.
I didn't kill either brother.Like Lee said:This is NOT how the world works now!Both of them injured and left unarmed.For me there was no point to kill them,Clem doesn't have to see unnecessary killings.
I killed both of them in my first play through, they where insane and had to be put down. I also killed Joline in the forest because she was crazy and threatened me.
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Sometimes being alive is more painful than dying. I did not kill any of them, because I think that is the best way to pay for what they did (They were left with nothing, food, shelter, protection and mother).
If you look good, to kill them both, may have only diminished his suffering after all.
I don't understand why people killed the woman in the woods. Yes she was insane but she wanted to give us further information about the dairy. So when Danny killed her, I know something bad gonna happen.
If you believe me or not already before I opened the hidden barn room I knew they were cannibals.
back to the main topic I killed both because they deserved it.
@ Xdye When you have the decision to kill Danny or not. There was no zombie attack and the mother and the brother was still alive.
An 8 year old child who needs to learn that sometimes killing is justified sooner rather than later, even if she's horrified at first.
An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Killed them both, maybe if no one died because of them in our group then maybe it would fo been different, however Larry died and I blame them for his death. He had.. C..h.. charm coming out of his ass
Thank you. That's exactly what I thought, while I was playing.
I didn't kill them just because I wanted to see what would happen as a result, and the result pleased me. I think they deserved to die, but I don't kill villains in games if given a choise because if he's dead, he's dead. But if he lives, we got to see more interesting situations he is placed into and often it is more interesting scenario. And ironic too.
Yeah, and times it isn't justified include 'when you are no longer in danger from the person.' This includes when the person just effectively lost their leg to a bear trap and when the person just lost their entire family and are now openly begging to be killed.
I choked the stranger to death without a second thought and without regrets. He was a continuing danger who had to be stopped, then and there. If I had let him go unharmed, he was obviously so out of touch with reality that he would have just kept coming back after us. His announcing that he'd rather kill Clem than see her with Lee just sealed it.
The St. John brothers, by contrast, were not a threat anymore. Killing them accomplished nothing except petty vengeance. And no, that isn't something I wanted Clem to learn.
Yeah maybe they wouldn't but my thinking was that if they did come back for vengeance and kill one of our members that blood would be on my hands so I didn't want to take that risk
You're right @Gergamer1988, but anyway Danny was there, even asking for me to kill him. I did not give him that pleasure xD
Am I the only one who liked the fact that the group was watching me when I kicked Andy into the fence? I felt like I was setting an example for the group and putting a marker down,that this is how things are now and that if Kenny/Lily can't lead I will. Plus I think it's such a badass scene when Lee walks away after killing Andy and the group just watch him for a few seconds before following him
What I tried to say is that it's better not to kill them, because they'll suffer more if you don't.
That scene was awesome! As I delivered every delicious punch, I felt so BADASS. Everyone watching as I turned Andy's face into a slice of pizza.
I killed neither of them. They were going to die anyway. Danny wasn't getting out of his own trap and Andy was emotionally broken (and missed a few teeth). The zombies were going to finish them. I didn't need blood on my hands.
I didn't kill either brother. Danny's let was stuck in a trap with no release latch, leaving him very little chance of surviving amputation let alone the walkers that will soon surround him. I spared Andy, his spirit's was broken after the fall of his family, and I doubt we'll be seeing him again.
Besides, leaving them to the walkers felt more karmic.
Or more accurately, letting hem get eaten alive by his zombified mother was more Karmonic.
Well you do have to tie up all loose ends or else they will come back to bite you in the ass later. Think about if the brothers did survive, they would have killed at least a few members of the motor inn just like how in 400 days if you don't kill the hostage he comes back to kill Boyd (I think his name was). You can't take any chances in the ZA because one false move and you're dead.
Maybe you missed this part but, you don't see walkers invading the farm until after you make the "Do you kill Andrew St. John decision or not" question. I literally had no idea the farm was going to be ransacked by zombies until after I had made my decision. There is absolutely no hint that is about to happen - they just kind of appear out of nowhere once you make your decision.
I didn't kill either brother, I know they were cannibalistic child killers and one a pedophile I couldn't help but feel sorry for them. The dairy was such a beautiful place and It felt so sad to see it end up the way it was, both brothers and their mother were awful people but they were suffering enough and I just couldn't bring myself to kill either of them especially Andy in front of the whole group.
What they did to people was sick, On my first playthrough i loved it when i got the opportunity to stab Danny with the pitchfork to get revenge for killing Mark and countless others but when Clementine witnessed what i did i felt guilty as she only just saw me help kill Larry, When it came to the fight with Andy and it showed the wide shot of the group watching me i decided to leave him as i felt there had been more then enough bloodshed and Clementine had seen enough brutality.
Yeah, you're right. I probably should have mentioned that the walkers appearing was more of a convenience for me than an actual objective. I should have mentioned that I spared them to a fate worse than death, and I got my answer when walkers surrounded the farm.
Well, when someone says "Im going to shoot your balls off" with a crossbow pointed at you, its time to stop fucking around and put that woman down. Never make threats you dont plan on going through with, thats what I believe and if you threaten me, Im going act as if its going to happen.
What's interesting with Shane and Philip is that it is eventually what Rick kinda heads toward. I think Philip said it best, "If I was like this from the start Penny would still be alive".
You think you would do that in real life though? In games it makes sense kinda like the saving of Ben led to one of the best conversations in the game I thought.
I don't think they mentioned that one of the brothers were a pedophile unless you're thinking of Jolene and she just said "...you're just like them; all men are the same; take a little girl...". I'm pretty sure if the St.Johns were the ones that took her kid she would have shot Danny instantly since she did seem to know of them.
I killed them both with Clem and everyone watching; I just wish I could have beaten Andy to death with my fists. There was no way I was allowing the slightest chance they might live for even a moment more when I could do something about it. They shaped my choice for the abandoned car; I wasn't going to let this group come close to what the St.Johns had become even if it meant Clem hated me for it. The St.Johns left me angry enough that if someone had been at the car I think I would have killed them, taken the stuff and then felt guilty about it afterward.
Yeah thats what I mean by being more Ruthless will probably increase your chances of survival
There were unused sound files in the game files stating he was a pedophile and who the fuck sleeps with their gun?
Sleeps with their gun? mmmm...I do. Actually I don't have a gun but I do have a machete in hands reach under the bed. If the dead were walking tell me who wouldn't be sleeping with their gun. Didn't know about the unused sound file but it is unused, maybe telltale didn't want to seal the St.John's fate.
I let them live too, so they can have a slow, painful death as walkers eat their faces.
to keep the body pure, one must not kill any living creature.
-Tibetan monk
"I'm going down to that dairy, and I'll kill every goddamn person I see." - Best reason for killing anybody, ever.
But that means I can't swat mosquitos...
Which would suck.
I spared them both, because they were living people at the end of the day and I didn't want to have Clem witness Lee killing someone. That's effectively becoming as bad as them. Yeah they were screwed in the head but Danny was stuck in HIS OWN bear trap with no release latch so he's hardly going anywhere. It's ironic that's his trap is the thing that kills him. Andy was badly beaten and learnt the fate of his family with a hoard of walkers gaining on him, I think he learnt his lesson and don't think he would have had the energy to fight back.
Killing the St Johns was a great sense of relief for me in the game that is. First of they were cannibals, they were basically doing the same thing the walkers are doing. Secondly, the St Johns dehumanized their victims into food. They did it with one man of the group and they were about to do with the rest as well. There was no reason for Lee to treat them with any humanity they were not doing mankind any favours.
Hemm... They died horribly, which was quite amusing, and Clem didn't got to see it, so...it works for me.
Yeah I would have a gun near but have you heard what he says, "This gun will keep you warmer at night than any girl I ever known" and see him stroking it and giving it a name "glad I got to use my girl here". There is one thing to have a gun near you for protection and another to be attracted to an inanimate object.
My first time playing through I didn't kill Jolene because I wanted to learn all I could from her. I didn't help kill Larry because it was the morally right thing to do. I killed Danny because he was a bad man but then I was ashamed that Clementine saw so I didn't kill Andy. But in retrospect I'm glad with my decision because the lesson Clementine learned from it was that bad people need to die but sometimes you need to know when to just walk away.
I didn't kill either brother.Like Lee said:This is NOT how the world works now!Both of them injured and left unarmed.For me there was no point to kill them,Clem doesn't have to see unnecessary killings.
I killed both of them in my first play through, they where insane and had to be put down. I also killed Joline in the forest because she was crazy and threatened me.
I'm guessing a lot of players felt guilty about killing them in front of Clem.
I'm in the minority as well. I had Lee kill them both.