Glamours
After playing Episode 2, some of the events sparked some of the same suspicions that I had in Episode 1 about fables with glamours. In Episode 2, we find out that Lily has been using a black market glamour to impersonate Snow White. It's easy to tell that the glamour is cheap; it gets some minor elements of her outfit wrong (the number of buttons on her coat). It's not a huge difference, but it's noticeable if you know the real Snow White.
That made me think of a difference I noticed with another character in Episode 1. When we first run into Gren at the Business Office, he has two working eyes. However, when we meet him again at the Trip Trap (in both episodes), he's blind in one eye. Because the blind-eyed Gren is able to transform back into the Grendel from Beowulf, I suspect that one is real. But, then, who is the two-eyed Gren? And why would anyone masquerade as him, of all fables?
Any theories?
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You know how Bigby's eye's turn yellow when he's starting to "wolf out"? My guess it's the same thing for Gren. When he turns into the big Grendel monster, both of eyes are white, so I guess when he starts to get angry his eyes start to turn white, beginning with one of them (the right one I think)
His eye is still white when he's sitting in the chair, though. It's white all of the time while he's in the Trip Trap. Why would it change just when he's sitting in the bar, even when he's not about to transform?
Hmm. That's interesting. Maybe telltale made a graphic mistake? Or he's still somewhat angry from the fight the night before. Or he's just low on glamour
I have trouble buying graphics glitch. It's like the buttons: small, but noticeable. Snow is the one who notices that the coat is wrong because it's her coat, but everyone else misses it until she brings it up. A cheap Grendel glamour from someone who doesn't really know Grendel and only has a vague connection with him might miss the eye in the same way.
Plus, Gren makes no mention of the fact that he saw Bigby earlier in the day when players meet him in the Trip Trap, which I find weird. He complains that no one cares about Holly's sister, but he makes no mention of actually reporting it himself or Bigby specifically ignoring his issues.
Yeah, I don't think the Grendel at the office was an imposter or anything. He doesn't explicitly say "I was at the office earlier", but I don't think that's really necessary, since, you know, Bigby was there too, and that's who he's talking to. When he says "nobody gives two shits about her", I presume he's referring to the higher-ups: Bigby, Snow, Crane, Bluebeard, those guys.
What I'm trying to say is, I don't find anything weird with Gren's behavior at all in any of the scenes he's in, so I see no reason to assume that the eye thing is the result of an imposter Gren who happens to have the same mannerisms.
Wow you are amazing! Since the cheap glamours got introduced this episode I (just like you) thought that someone we met or will meet later on is for sure just a glamour. I didn´t think anyone to find something thaaat quick though...
Another guy waiting in front of the office is that red haired guy that has 3 scenes in episode 1 right? Maybe he is following him?
I kinda already had the theory that the heads that are placed in front of the apartment aren´t meant for bigby, but this red haired guy. If that´s the case then it would make sense for the killer to stay close to the guy.
I found a very old post on this forum about the same exact thing (just without the knowledge of illegal glamours):
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/51199/grens-eye-/p1
In it there is a reply from someone from the telltale staff. His name is puzzlebox. I have no idea how much he is involved in the development. But anyway... that is what he wrote:
"The change in Grendel's eye is meant to be a hint that something's not quite right, and weird shit is about to happen... it's his "real" / unglamoured eyes starting to show through. That was actually added pretty late in development, so I played a few times where Grendel had normal eyes through that whole conversation, and it's definitely MUCH creepier with the eye change."