Episodes that showed AMC Writers can be as good as Telltale Writers

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  • edited February 2014

    WOW. I didn't know that, yeah, Darabont has full right to sue them(as I've heard he's been doing), I would've loved to see something like that. It's a shame they did all those cuts.

    ...But... I'm not going to stop watching their shows because... Well, they're good(besides all those reality shows and Low Winter Sun).

  • You think being sad and grief stricken is being a bitch? I just cannot understand that mentality. The fact that Rick can show that side of himself and still do what needs to be done, to take care of people, makes him stronger than anyone else in my book.

    DougGreene posted: »

    But Comic Rick has his flaws, he has many of them, and they're more human and realistic than Bitch Rick's. His characterization is handled WAY better than TV Rick's, and he did it in less time, with less wallowing in sadness.

  • Frank Darabont is a great director. Shawshank and Green Mile are two of my favorite movies, but I think Scott Gimple is doing a better job on this show. IMO, it gets better every season. The premiere episode last week was great, getting back to really digging into the core characters. Im so excited for what the rest of the season has in store.

  • edited February 2014

    Well compare 6 epiosdes of the Walking Dead game to 40+ episodes of the tv show, with everything putting together a tv show would entail, not to mention the restrictions that they have to deal with as opposed to a video game with arguably few if any restrictions and yeah, its a bit different. I just want to say that I love both projects and appreciate both and I hate that people who love the game feel that they have to bash the show as if they're in competition.

    Zyphon posted: »

    A long running video game that will stretch several season split into different episode. Not all that different, at least in the set up.

  • No, being sad and grief stricken is fine, but being a bitch about it makes you a bitch. Comic Rick was sad and grief stricken after the prison fell. Fucking everybody died. He found the walkerified corpse of his wife on top of their infant child who had been crushed under her girth among the bodies of all of his friends. He scarred his son for life after beating a man who tried to rape him to death with nothing but his one good hand. He answered phone calls from a wife who was dead, that were very much not real, and still kept his cool and talked to her. He watched one of the last people who had been by his side from the start have his fucking head smashed into pieces right in front of him while he sat helpless. And he's still strong. He's never broken down into a blubbering heap of fake-accent and given up his position as leader. He's been a hypocrite at times because the world forced him to be, forced him to give up what he believed in, but he never quit, never tried to quit.

    It's a large part of why the comics will always be lightyears ahead of the show, and why I love them so much more.

    RIP Abraham, thy suaveness and stache-itude were only matched by the might of Kenny's handlebar.

    KCohere posted: »

    You think being sad and grief stricken is being a bitch? I just cannot understand that mentality. The fact that Rick can show that side of him

  • This made me think how a show like Breaking Bad would be different if AMC had done the same thing and fired Vince Gilligan. It's interesting to think about.

  • The comics have a lot more simplified characterizations. Case in point the governor who was little more than a cartoon character in the comic. I enjoy them but in some ways they are shallow. I guess if you enjoy that sort of thing and you want your characters to be unrealistically strong all the time, than you would enjoy them more than the show.

    DougGreene posted: »

    No, being sad and grief stricken is fine, but being a bitch about it makes you a bitch. Comic Rick was sad and grief stricken after the prison

  • That was my favorite episode...

    Graysonn posted: »

    I love Breaking Bad but I will never forgive them for that "Fly" episode. What the hell were the writers thinking!?

  • The governor was a bit cartoonishly evil yeah, you've got me there. 'Unrealistically strong' isn't a good descriptor. Rick always has his moments of weakness. He just does his job as the leader, does what is expected of him, and mans the fuck up. He hides his weakness, which in itself is his greatest weakness, and will be his downfall eventually. How society comes to expect the things it always had is a major theme of the comics, and it stands strong in its characterization.

    KCohere posted: »

    The comics have a lot more simplified characterizations. Case in point the governor who was little more than a cartoon character in the comic.

  • I think this episodes now, when the group is separated will be great, because it will show their new safe world crumble and how they react to that...

    They will also have to decide if they go on on their own (giving up on the others) or if they look for them trying to create new group dynamics and stuff... From what I saw from the preview it will feature Daryl and Beth alone looking for someone else from their group. It looks interesting ;)

  • 100% DISAGREE IF ANYTHING TELLTALE NEEDS TO BE GOOD AS AMC. AMC'S STORY/EPISODE MUCH BETTER THAN TELLTALES CRAP

  • Nope, Episode 13 is "Arrow on the Doorpost"

    Zyphon posted: »

    Season 1 seemed a bit "meh" to me. I think they've gotten progressively better, despite the pacing issues in Season 2. Also... I thought that clear was S3E13?

  • edited February 2014

    2. S3E12 - Clear: (Written by Scott M. Gimple, Directed by Tricia Brock) Clear is generally considered to be one of the best episodes, so it's no wonder that I'd put it here. This episode starts with Rick, Carl, and Michonne going back to Rick's home town to look for weapons to help with the upcoming war against The Governor. They get stuck and then are attacked by zombies. Before getting the car unstuck, they see a man running down the road asking for help, and decide to leave him. This shows how cold most of the characters are becoming, which with Rick and Carl especially, is a theme shown throughout the entire Season.

    They get to Rick's police precinct to find that all the guns are gone, and then decide to go look at a couple bars where Rick knows the owners had guns. One their way, they see writing all of the town, as well as many traps and barricades(whoever designed all those traps is amazing). As they make their way through the town, they are stopped by a masked man asking them to drop their weapons, or else he'll kill them. They fight back, and Carl ends up shooting the man, who survives because he's wearing a bulletproof vest. This ends up being a good thing, because it turns out to be Morgan from the first episode.

    Rick decides to help Morgan, something that Michonne disagrees with. They carry him up to his bed in the house he's been living in, which it also littered with traps. Again, props to whoever designed them all, because it adds to the atmosphere of the whole episode. Once inside his room, it's clear that Morgan went insane. There's writing all over the wall,s most of which doesn't make any sense. It also happens that Morgan has been stockpiling weapons.

    After Rick sees that Morgan's son, Duane, turned, he decides to stay until Morgan wakes up. Carl finds out that their old house burned down, and after a bit of conversation, Carl decides to go for a crib for Judith, Michonne goes to help him.

    At this point, the episode is probably my favorite one purely because of the town, the traps, the writing everywhere, etc.

    The story with Carl and Michonne is short, which is just the fact that Carl tries to leave Michonne so he can go get something else for Judith, a picture of Rick, Carl, and Lori. He wants Judith to know what her mother looked like. Michonne ends up helped Carl get the picture, and also a colorful cat statue.

    This part is to grow Michonne and Carl's character development, and also to show some bonding between Carl and Michonne, as Carl initially doesn't trust Michonne. The best part of the episode is with Rick and Morgan.

    Rick takes to Morgan as he thinks Morgan is asleep, he also ties Morgan to the best as he's already shown that he can be dangerous. However, morgan IS awake, and has a knife beneath his bed. Eventually, Morgan escapes and attacks Rick, claiming him to be a "dead man wearing a dead man's face". Morgan stabs Rick, and then Rick puts his gun to Morgan's head, Morgan then starts pleading for rick to kill him.

    Rick talks Morgan through what happened, and Morgan eventually recognizes who Rick is, but is more than a little upset about the fact that Rick stopped calling on the radio.

    The whole scene is about Rick and Morgan, and as both are played by absolutely fantastic actors(Andrew Lincoln and Lennie James), it ends up being one of the best scenes in the entire show. Morgan explains that he couldn't kill his wife, and eventually, she bit Duane. At that point, Morgan killed her, but it was too late. This marked his descent into madness.

    Rick tries to get Morgan to join them, but Morgan refuses, saying he needs time to "clear".

    The episode ends with Rick's group taking a lot of the guns, and then Carl telling Rick that Michonne can be trusted.

    This is one of the best episodes mainly because of the god-like acting on the parts of Andrew Lincoln, and mainly, Lennie James, as well as the design behind the town, the character development for Carl and Michonne, and just fantastic writing on the part of Scott M. Gimple(who is now the showrunner for Season 4 and 5, so...)

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