Was Smoke and Mirrors ending stupid or is it just me? (spoilers)

edited February 2014 in The Wolf Among Us

So, OK, someone please explain the ending of this episode. After a four month wait all we got was a miserable 90 minutes episode with the silliest investigation scene I've seen in a while. Either Telltale explains this a little better in episode 3 (by the classic plot twist of planted evidence, or "it was my plan to be discovered all along") or this is going to look really bad, amateurish even.

So, we have the classic whodunit mystery, and the end of episode 2 reveals the killer, who happens to be Crane, oh, who didn't see that coming. Anyway, the whole scene in the hotel room felt super stupid, with some investigation gameplay with obvious deductions that made me feel a little patronized.

So anyway, what was Crane's brilliant plan for killing the fake Snowhite troll glamour girl?

He goes to some hotel room in a place where Beauty works (yet she claims not to have seen him enter the hotel). There, he goes all pervy before killing the snowhite troll, he leaves a bed full of blood, a snowhite book, a torn dress, probably fingerprints all over, like he doesn't give a flying fuck about being discovered. Like no one was going to notice that little bloody crime scene sooner or later. But best of all, THE PHOTO. So, this is the master plan: kill someone and leave a photo of yourself being a pervert with the victim right in the middle of the crime scene. Funny, he managed to take fake Snowhite's head and place it in the apartment building, but he just couldn't be arsed with that envelope full of compromising photos. Is that stupid or what?

And so comes in Bigby the great detective to solve the crime. It was going alright so far, but what was the point of all that questioning and clue hunting when ultimately the solution lied in an obvious envelope in the floor of the crime scene? How anti-climactic is that? You don't need any great detective to reach to a conclusion that is basically just bluntly smashed into your face. Incriminating photos! Good job, Sherlock!

So, this is either a red herring- someone planted evidence against Crane- or this case is just going to feel irreversibly stupid from now on. I really hope episode 3 will explain this in a rational way.

Comments

  • If he planned to be discovered all along, why would he smash the mirror?

    He's been framed, though I reckon it's obvious he is guilty of hiring Lily to look like Snow and such. It's even possible he's had a hand in the murders, but there's a lot more to come, so no . . . I don't think it's a silly ending. So, even if he has had a hand in the murders, there's someone else involved that wanted Crane caught for whatever reason.

  • Erm... maybe Crane isn't the murderer at all... maybe he's simply been secretly in love with Snow and has been playing out his fantasies with Lily (the glamoured troll) but other than that maybe he's harmless.

    It's quite possible that he ran not because he was guilty but because of how the situation looked? Doubt the reveal would be so simple.

  • Finding his picture in room is to unrealistic someone was obviously spying on him and planted the body and the picture whole crime scene seems made up and plotted

  • Perhaps. The game really seemed to imply he was guilty of the troll murder, seeing how he smashed the mirror and looked oh-so-guilty with his shadowed face. But I thought... if that is the reveal, shame on you Telltale! Note, killing the troll doesn't imply killing Faith, it could be two different killers, but seriously, could anyone be as stupid as to leave all the evidence lying around in such obvious fashion? The last part of episode 2 seemed like a bad detective novel, with a galore of obvious and unimaginative clues just flaring all around the room; the only thing missing was a matchbox with the name of a sordid bar where the hard boiled detective must later investigate.

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    The ending wasn't really that bad tbh. I mean, Crane could be framed (Heh, that rhymed). The genius that is Wolf Among Us is that anyone could be the culprit. Could be Woodman, The Tweedle Bros, or hell... even Snow. It keeps throwing us left & right constantly with its unpredictability that keeps us wanting to continue playing; to know who the serial killer is (Which is the case for me). It's this kind of writing that impresses people so they want to play it. If you want my opinion on who the culprit is, and as I love her (Cause she fine asf), it's Snow. Something is sus about her. I've seen plots where your trusted partners turn your back on you. Telltale might even go into this direction.

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    Felt same want big fable to be killer be good final boss fight. Crane weak little stick who's not intimidating so once get to him just be boring rather like Bane v Batman(Dark knight rises) the killer to be smarter,stronger and bigger then bigby so have use all your wit and cunning to find and defeat him might just be me though

    Shadik posted: »

    Perhaps. The game really seemed to imply he was guilty of the troll murder, seeing how he smashed the mirror and looked oh-so-guilty with his

  • Could be monkey no one ever expects the monkey what a twist

    TWDIsLife posted: »

    The ending wasn't really that bad tbh. I mean, Crane could be framed (Heh, that rhymed). The genius that is Wolf Among Us is that anyone could

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    Lmaaooo.
    That got me thinkin' of Frieza.

    Markd4547 posted: »

    Could be monkey no one ever expects the monkey what a twist

  • I doubt it's someone from the comics. I mean, considering this is a prequel to the comic books, it would seem rather odd the killer was an important character in the Fable series, it's easier to pin it on a secondary character.

    TWDIsLife posted: »

    The ending wasn't really that bad tbh. I mean, Crane could be framed (Heh, that rhymed). The genius that is Wolf Among Us is that anyone could

  • Well, Crane was cunning enough to defeat a dangerous decapitating headless ghost on a horse. This is the main character in Sleepy Hollow, he's no wimp.

    Markd4547 posted: »

    Felt same want big fable to be killer be good final boss fight. Crane weak little stick who's not intimidating so once get to him just be bori

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    Yeah,Crane's just like HERPITY DERP HERP *molests Snow White

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    There were several "big reveals" in episode 2, but Crane murdering someone was not one of them. Crane had been a customer of the murdered girl, and she was likely killed the night that he saw her. That's what we know. You've basically just outlined all of the reasons why it probably isn't him. For one thing, it's too early. For another, like you said, who would leave all of that evidence all over the place and then just go back to work like nothing had happened? It seems more likely that someone is trying to frame him by using his ties to Lily. What was revealed:

    • Lily, Holly's sister, was glamoured as Snow White and met a client named "Mr. Smith" in the hotel room.
    • Lily was killed in said hotel room.
    • Pictures found in hotel room show that Lily was seeing Crane while glamoured as Snow.
    • The glamour that Lily used was cheap or "black market" and not made by the "official" witches of the 13th floor.
    • Lily and Faith both worked at the same club.
    • Lily and Faith had at least one client in common (The Woodsman).

    Honestly, that's a lot of stuff for one episode. I really liked ep. 2 for the fact that it included a lot of new developments.

  • Honestly I think Crane wanted them to find it, otherwise I doubt he would have been spying on them.

  • I think it's absurd the number of people who seem to think Crane is the murderer. All we know is he's a pervert, and he met Lily glamoured as Snow in room 207 in the past. We don't even know if he met her the night she died.

  • I think "wimp" is exactly what Crane is, judging by how he acted through episode 2. Having to take antacids and being all nervous during the body examination scene, etc. He doesn't seem like the psychopathic killer type at all.

    Shadik posted: »

    Well, Crane was cunning enough to defeat a dangerous decapitating headless ghost on a horse. This is the main character in Sleepy Hollow, he's no wimp.

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    Crane is more of a wimp than anything. If you read the original version of the Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Crane didn't defeat the headless horseman. He got scared poopless and disappeared into the night. All that was found in the morning was a smashed pumpkin and according to the story no one in Sleepy Hollow ever saw Crane again.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Sleepy_Hollow

    Shadik posted: »

    Well, Crane was cunning enough to defeat a dangerous decapitating headless ghost on a horse. This is the main character in Sleepy Hollow, he's no wimp.

  • it seemed... rushed I guess
    nothing in that episode really had the wow factor, snow white's big reveal was pretty predictable

  • Yea, I've been shaking my head at all these Crane theories. I know not everyone has read Fables, but this whole Crane pervy business pretty much ties into the comics and it has nothing to do with him cutting off damsel's heads.

    Kaihu posted: »

    I think it's absurd the number of people who seem to think Crane is the murderer. All we know is he's a pervert, and he met Lily glamoured as Snow in room 207 in the past. We don't even know if he met her the night she died.

  • I highly doubt they would reveal the identity of the killer less than halfway through the story--in other words, Crane is not the killer.

  • Director Of Operations Ichabod Crane abusing his power yet again.

  • Yeah. I like the idea that Bluebeard framed him and capitalized on Cranes fetish for Snow

    Kaihu posted: »

    I think it's absurd the number of people who seem to think Crane is the murderer. All we know is he's a pervert, and he met Lily glamoured as Snow in room 207 in the past. We don't even know if he met her the night she died.

  • Game didn't at all imply he's guilty if you ask me. He was clearly framed (why else would be there pictures of him and troll left in the room?). That alone would make him angry. Not to mention that people found out that he was paying prostitute glamoured as his coworker.

    Shadik posted: »

    Perhaps. The game really seemed to imply he was guilty of the troll murder, seeing how he smashed the mirror and looked oh-so-guilty with his

  • The tarot cards and their meaning are irreversible. They help out during the mystery.

  • I think when Crane said "There might be another one on our doorstep tonight" or whatever he said, was code for something about someone else dying.

  • Perhaps he has an idea of who framed him (if that is the case), and is angry so he smashes the mirror? o: Just a thought.

  • He smashed the mirror because he was tired of trying to talk in rhyme. (Just Joking)

    Spritzee posted: »

    Perhaps he has an idea of who framed him (if that is the case), and is angry so he smashes the mirror? o: Just a thought.

  • Haha xD

    He smashed the mirror because he was tired of trying to talk in rhyme. (Just Joking)

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