What happened with Luke [Major Spoilers]
Where the heck is Luke? Edit: 2nd Play-through, update is in italics
The facts
Luke conspicuously likes killing zombies
Before the party gets to the lodge, when ambushing the two zombies just before the bridge with Luke, Clementine says 'I don't know about this...' Then Luke comments that 'well it seems a bit of fun'. Clementine scrunches her eyebrows and says 'A bit of fun? Are you kidding me?' He was joking however it seemed...
Kenny seems different
When setting up the Christmas tree, Satira asks if Kenny seemed different now compared to back then. Later on, at the dinner table Kenny giggles a little too much at certain scenes (Specifically talking about the can of beans and what it does on the way out). In front of the fire for Clementine & Kenny's heart-to-heart, another joke he said to Clementine, 'WE ARE IN A DREAM'. He did say he was joking however strange his odd joke seemed. Then there was when Satira was carrying a box, Kenny came over to help. Satira said she was fine. Kenny took the box angrily anyway. Kenny called Clementine 'Duck' accidentally and might have been joking, 'Nick and Luke. Sounds like a nice match!'
Luke is screaming outside
After when William Carver storms the lodge, Clem is able to sneak upstairs with Alvin and Rebbecca. You either have the option to go downstairs to supplant Carver and help Carlos by turning in OR sneak outside, look for Luke and Kenny.
If you choose to find Luke/Kenny, after you sneak outside to attempt a re-group, first you see a doorway. If Clementine peers into the doorway, you see and hear Carlos' muffled writhing from pain. When you bend the corner, you see Kenny with a rifle pointed to the lodge. While creeping underneath the windows, you hear the muffled conversations inside. Then nearer to Kenny, you can hear wild screaming somewhere close outside. It was clearly a man's screaming.
The man's screaming sounds LOUD and un-muffled. The yell is located outside. The only males outside are Kenny and Luke. Since Kenny is in plain sight pointing his rifle when we still kept hearing screams... it is Luke.
Kenny is hiding something
Kenny was the last person with Luke after previously suggesting they fix the transformer together. (Despite Satira's request to give a hand, Kenny says it is 'Too dangerous').*
After, Clementine asks Kenny where is Luke, he dodges the question and just shoots Johnny (Carver's man). Some said they were able to get out something like, 'He was complaining about something so I told him to go take a hike'. This leads some to suspect Kenny is involved in Luke's disappearance.
That was Carlos, right?
One assumption was the man screaming is Carlos since his fingers were snapped by Carver. But the first person that popped into my mind was Luke... why did I wonder 'That sounds like Luke, is he in trouble'?
On second play-through, I am 99% confident Luke was the one yelling outside!
Suppose Kenny did something to Luke? What happened?
- Abandoned Luke unintentionally. Kenny & Luke are attacked by zombies. Kenny felt no allegiance to help and saved himself.
- Abandoned Luke with intent. Kenny has psychological issues or heard Luke say something which revealed a darkness of Luke. Else, Kenny is jealous of Luke.
Just what did Kenny do to Luke?
Comments
I thought the screaming was Carver beating on Carlos.
That‘s supposed to be Carlos screaming when his fingers got cracked.
Guess it backfires, not able to distinguish between a dog bite and walker bite.
Luke will come back with Nate and save the day, calling it now.
You're probably right, but I might need to play through a 2nd time just to verify it is definitely Carlos and not Luke.
I have no idea why Luke disappeared. It is really odd given the relationship that has been growing between him and Clem. I suspect that Luke will try to come and save the day after the group is brought back to Carver's compound in Episode 3, and you will have to choose between Carver and Luke.
Kenny might have happened to Luke. Or he got bit. Anything could have happened to Luke, really. Maybe he took a nap.
I like the idea that Luke will come and save the day. It would be epic: Rambo Luke.
But I just want Telltale Games to avoid re-showing another "Omid Incident" style rescue. Luke sneaks in slowly, gets caught, shot in the heart. (Luke is arguably similar to Omid. I think both are kind. I also think both have a good sense of humor.)
Double-checked, it is not Carlos. It is unmuffled and clearly loud and outside nearby....
Verify for yourself. It is Luke!!
Maybe you could change the thread title to something more like:
"What happens to luke after you meet up with Kenny and Alvin and Nick die? (Spoiler about alvin and nick dying btw)"
But with Luke being a fairly recognized character, and given I typed 'Major Spoilers' alert in the title, and I even put a Spoiler on the thread, some may wonder whether spoiler trolls would be able to find any bites.
Thanks for proving me wrong k0t0
p.s. I spoiler alerted this comment too
Just played through a 2nd time, definitely the first one, what a wild card he has become.
I just checked and I'm pretty sure it is supposed to be Carlos, they just maybe left it unmuffled so you could see the effects of your decision. Also, when you pass the window and the screams start Clem looks TOWARDS the house, implying that the screams are coming from there and not outside.
Dont get huffy just because you got put in your place ^.^
Clem was facing the house too when she heard his muffled sounds so why does facing the house later then ultra louden his voice?
But suppose it was. Even comparing the previous yells of Carlos to the one you hear, it should be Carlos' distinctive voice and hoarser than it was. Specifically, he has a Spanish accent. One which Nick made fun of while sitting at the bench by the very small house after the bridge
. Also my girlfriend watched me play the 2nd time and said 'That was definitely not Carlos.' It confused her so much haha
I am not 100% confident since Telltale could have just screwed it up with the audio effect. But if intentional, then it begs the question. What did Kenny do to Luke and why?
I'm pretty sure it was Carlos, as before you sneak out, Carlos' face looks normal, but afterwards, it is extremely beat up. If, however, it was Luke, and Ken did it on purpose, I'm gonna kill that shitbird. It's already hard enough to like him when he insults literally all of your favorite characters (Luke, Doug, Nick, Ben, Larry), but when he kills them? He's dead if that's the fact.
I would check again. When they cut back to Carlos after going to Kenny the scream is the same. You also probably would have heard the outside scream even if you surrender, which you don't. And I'm just gonna point out, when you scream, it doesn't necessarily reflect the same voice you normally have, especially if you are a voice actor and you don't have a natural spanish accent. (The VA is the voice of Roman, too.)
And on your question, maybe jealousy? I mean Kenny had his mind set on Clem staying, and Luke is getting in the way of that for him.
Haha alright, I might check a third time. :P
I can add jealousy up there too. It makes sense since Kenny seems to fight with leader figures (Lilly for example he bickered with constantly) Especially all the more since he went off the deep end surviving solo at "an old restaurant" (and grew a massive beard). lol
I mean, I don't know, it could be someone else. The audio is quite off putting.
And yeah, it always seems like a power-struggle with Kenny. The one thing I really want in the next episode are some explanations. Like, "how did Kenny survive", or "Where is Luke?", or even "da fuck is going on between Carver and the Cabin survivors" haha.
he is alive i guess
I think it's more likely that Telltale simply made the scream super loud for dramatic effect without realizing it'd be muffled from inside. It's possible that the scream wasn't Carlos, in which case it would have to be Luke. I wouldn't put either possibility past Telltale.
Please record this scream and upload it somewhere, i'll compare it with sounds from audio file and i'll find out who's screaming
Aw man, I'm also worried about Luke. But I'm sure he'll at least try to save us - if he can...
(If he's dead I'm gonna flip my shit. ;_;)
This whole episode made me a lot more confused about the whole Carver thing.
Carver said something like "I told you not to follow him", What does that mean? Was Luke one of the main reasons they left the camp?
Up until now I thought it was because of Alvin, Rebecca and Carlos (the way Luke talked to Carlos before they left the cabin was really suspicious and Carver expressed that they had their "differences", in a certain dialogue)...
And I suspected Pete, Nick and Luke just followed them because they were smart enough to realize that Carver was a mad man. Well, maybe not Nick, but Pete was definitely smart and spirited enough for all three of them.
I'm really excited for the next episode, but I'm also relieved that we have a little break now. This game is eating away at my soul XD
Screams have accents?