Why is it okay for Clementine to have *********** but not a **********?
Here are the situations.
- If you go with Pete at the river before long you will find Clementine locked in a truck with Pete. After a look around you realize it is a cigarette truck and Pete wants a smoke.
- If you go with Nick at the river before long you will find Clementine locked in a shed with Nick. After a look around you realize it is a moonshine distillery and Nick wants a drink.
So here is my question why the hell did TTG only give the option to have a drink of moonshine with Nick but NOT have a cigarette with Pete?
In a mature game where the gloves are supposed to be off what reason could TTG have for not allowing Clementine to have smoke with Pete?
This is what I was talking about when I was worried TTG would tone down then content because the playable character is a young child. Had the playable character been a adult the choice would have been available I bet.
It kind of pisses me off because I think we should have been allowed to let Clementine try a smoke with Pete on his death bed. A much about all those promises that TTG would not hold back because the playable character was a young child.
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I think the answer is quite simple, Nick isnt a responsible man like Pete. Pete wouldnt let a little girl smoke. Nick wouldnt care if Clem drank.
She didn't even drink, she spit it out.
I think you should have been giving the option to take a smoke or take a drink. Neither Nick or Pete are clementines father and neither treated her like a child.
Cause Pete wasnt traumatized and drunk like Nick, and, judging by the way Pete spoke about it, regretted smoking for the first time in high school, they didn't "tone it down" like you said, his character just isnt the type who would be teaching a kid to smoke. ya feel?
Well there can be limitations for some people and like a previous poster mentioned
Pete is a more responsible person than nick
He probably knew where to draw the line
What Jere said. What an absolutely blind statement TC made
I get where all of you are coming from but that's not what I am saying.
I am saying why was the option not available for me or you (the player of the game) to make the choice? Why were we not given that option? I think if we were playing as a adult we would have been given that choice. The fact that the choice is unavailable is evidence that in fact certain aspects of the game have been toned down because the playable character is a young child.
Yea that's what we've been saying in nicks instance he'd let her have some but for pete I honestly think it's because she doesn't know how
And that's a bad thing? Despite the harsh world she has grown up in, it doesn't mean she should have to lose ALL of her innocence.
So are you saying that the dialogue option to have a smoke shouldnt have been available in the first place if Pete was just gonna say no? Even then thats narrative. Good gosh and I just accused someone of being an apologist for complaining about people complaining that your choices dont affect anything, is this what he meant? Its bloody narrative
But in a game of choices shouldn't we get to decide what our character can and can't do?
I mean if the developer is going to allow her to have a choice to drink then she should have a choice to smoke. I for one would have liked to have a hardened clementine who has a pack of cigarettes. I could see scenes down the road where she fires one up during a conversation.
I guess my problem is I feel like the developer held back because the playable character is a child and did not allow us the player to make that choice.
No I'm saying you and I the player should have been given the choice to let Clementine have a cigarette just like we had the option to let her drink moonshine.
Dude, you're acting like Telltale took a huge story element away from you.
You didn't get to smoke a damn cigarette. Like others have said, Pete is a responsible adult and cared for Clementine's well-being, he totally would not have wanted her to smoke.
So it should be a choice independent of Pete? Well personally I still wouldnt see the point, unless they also emphasis Clem having the choice to resist the temptation
But Pete is not controlling Clementine. We are.....
I think it depends on the character she was with. Like with Pete, he was responsible about it. He wouldn't let her do any of that (including drinking) at her age. Nick on the other hand, he was careless at that point and let her do anything, so I imagine that he would of let her smoke if he was doing it as well.
Yea and pete was being responsible nick wasn't
I remember that when you give Pete a cigarette Clem can say "can you teach me how" or something like that. And Pete refused. So yes, there is that option but luckily (good for Clem) Pete disagrees.
The devil is always in the details. If your going to market a mature game of choices and in one instance allow a choice be have a drink of moonshine then in the other instance one of the choices should have been to have a cigarette.
So by your logic because Carlos wanted clementine to stay behind with the group the bridge we should have not been given the choice to to with Luke?
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I would have to go back and see that. I don't recall off the top of my head. I guess I'm a little perturbed because I kind of felt like a choice was taken away. I kind of feel since the game was marketed that Clementine is hardened more then last year we should have been given the choice to smoke. I mean she swears like sailor if you want, shoots guns, drinks moonshine, why not add a pack of cigarettes to the mix?
Yes independent of Pete. I just think the player should have been given the choice.
If the playable character was a adult I think the choice would have been available. If we were still playing as lee we would have had the choice to smoke a cigarette.
Not everything should be decided, though, regardless of how "mature" this game should or shouldn't be. I see where you're coming from, but TTG doesn't want her to start smoking.
Im pretty sure the maturity of it wasnt on TTGs mind as much as "what would the point be"
Yeah here's the difference there was only 1 adult there
In two different scenarios one let her and one didn't
Don't twist anything that wasn't my logic that's common sense
If you were pete would you really let her smoke cigarettes
If this was last season I would completely agree but in season 2 Clementine has been much more defiant, aggressive, and generally going the path she wants to go. She has not been dependent on anyone but herself so I don't really think she was looking for Pete's allowance for her to smoke. And even if Pete tried to stop her how different is it when Luke told Clementine to take the small walker on the bridge and we the player get the choice to kill the big one or the small one.
I still come back around to Clementine is the player that "you, I, we" are controlling in a mature game built on the format that "Choices Matter" and we the player should have been given the option to have Clementine take a smoke.
Well, Nick lost the will to live and wanted to share a drink with someone I guess.
I'm trying to take Nick and Pete out of the situation.
The player should have been given the choice to let Clementine (dependent, no fear, stone cold zombie killer) smoke since we had the option to drink alcohol in the other situation....
You're trying to take Nick and Pete out of the situations exclusively about Nick and Pete?
Except they didn't hold back when they decided to make a child a playable character. If that was the case, every failed QTE scene where Clem gets bitten, killed or god knows what else would be censored, fade to black or not shown.
Like others said, Pete is a responsible person, that's why he refused.
good POINT!!!!!
Pete doesn't want to share his cigarette,anyway.
She only drinks if Nick asks her. Pete is not an irresponsable asshole whos last job before death would be getting a 11 year old addicted to smoking.
What does Pete say if you ask.
Yeah, the last thing I need is being worried with Clementine smoking. I definitely don't want her to smoke or drink. For Christ sake, she is eleven years old not thirty!