i defended **** at every opportunity but...
Kartal5
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him insulting a 11 year old kid (in the teaser for S3) made me kind of want to slap him, i was like "really kenny? you're giving a little girl a hard time for surrendering?"
Is Telltale purposely testing our love for the god of mustaches?
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I Think he is meant to be insulting Luke for running off... He is giving you a look like "so that guy was your new friend huh"
If Clem decided to surrender to Carver, he says something along the lines of "Well, at least ONE of us didn't give up..." You get the "Not goin' out without a fight!" bit if you went to find Kenny and Luke.
When did he ever insult Clem? Seriously, I've played the episode quite a few times now (and done separate dialogue options everytime) and he was pretty friendly to me all the time.
I think he's talking about the preview for Ep 3, that little bit where kenny was talking to clem.
Then why does he only give that speech when Clem is surrendering?
Yeah, that kind of irked me. Kenny was my friend in Season One, so I hope he was at least pointing that towards Luke, even though it looks to be determinant judging from Episode 3's preview. The line would make more sense if he was, as being snarky towards an eleven year old for surrendering is a bit much in my book.
But, I will hold on to my judgement until I hear him out. We only heard a snip of their conversation. And in his defense, it might not even make an appearance depending on our choices. Sort of like how the "I thought you were dead" dialogue option in Episode 2's preview ended up being up to us.
i was refering to the line ".. but i know one of us didnt just give up!"
maybe i am a bit sensitive, but that seems like a semi-insult to me.
I understand Kenny is, as carlos describes "the loud man with the beard" and i am used to him talking shit to adults, but him showing that attitude to Clem was not cool in my opinion...
I thought it was harsh (if it's indeed directed at Clem)... In Kenny's defense, it's the kind of thing a disappointed (and misguided) parent might say to their child.
What I mean is Lee went through hell to save Clem and saved her because of his "never-give-up-never-say-die" attitude. Also, Kenny survived the devastating loss of everybody he cared about and yet here he is, still putting one foot in front of the other (in a fashion...). "Never giving up" is a code and way of life for all the survivors in TWD. Some just adhere to it in different ways, I suppose.
I can understand if Kenny expects Clem to never give up because she's had role models who have modeled that behavior for her time and time again. And, I get why he doesn't cut her slack for being young (because her not fighting every inch of the way could be the very thing that gets her killed). Of course, her not surrendering could get her killed too, and Kenny should be more understanding because of that...
Still, it might be unpopular, but I wanted to speak up for Kenny because both he and Lee have risked it all many times and Kenny and Clem's enduring survival is a testament to the power of never giving up. People are right though, he's still a jerk about, but I guess I can see where he might be coming from given what he's endured... And the fact that she is 11 should be irrelevant. Unless you're an overprotective Carlos-type, sometimes the truth needs to hurt. In this case, Kenny is wrong, but his reasons for being frustrated probably aren't wronghearted...
Maybe it depends on the dialog you picked with him , maybe if you make clem say something like "You were being an idiot there Kenny" or something
Maybe if your Clem wasn't a giant wimp you'd have the respect of the 'stache.
You are right
[looks at clem accusing]
Kenny is treading her like a normal person. You ain't little, you ain't big, you ain't young or old, you are alive! Kenny knows that...Clem is the main character in this game, ofcourse her choices will have an impact on how other people react to her. Respect the Stache!
Yeah, Kenny's always been like this.
"[Gasp] You didn't do what I would have done! Clearly this is due to a critical flaw in your personality and has nothing to do with the difficulty of the surrounding circumstances! Now I'm going to make a note of this in my mental tally to determine whether or not I should help you later on!"
Yeah man, Kenny's giving her reasonable responsibilities. It's not like Luke where he's taking her along on narrow, collapsing bridges to get surrounded and eaten.
He's just asking her to be his spotter while he snipes fools and expects her not to be a big surrender-monkey baby. That's responsible post-apoc parenting.
"You sat with Luke and not me?! Don't expect my help next time you're in trouble."
My Lee always wanted Kenny to watch after her and i will fulfill his last wish!
ok that seriously made me lol because of how correct it was, you cant dismiss tho that he is a very powerfull ally if you help him out at every keypoint in the game
So did my Lee, but i am starting to wonder if he made the right pick.
Lol nice. Let me try. "Wait, you surrendered and didn't want to put anyone's life in danger? That means you disagreed with me! Unbelievable."
So did mine. I wanted Kenny to take care of her as well. At the time, I was confident that he was the best choice. I knew that he would protect Clem with his life, and I barely knew Christa and Omid. Yet now with Luke's dynamic in the mix and some weird vibes I've been getting from my old pal, I not so sure anymore either. Who knows? Maybe he would have been more stable if he did find her sooner. I still love his character though, and I will do my best to get him back on the right track.
Well you did just give up if you stayed with Alvin. Kenny has a point, if you wanted to please him you should have went looking for him.
I think that line was added for effect... We dont even know if hes gonna say that in ep 3.
Clearly they are testing our love for him lol. You should have known that when you had to choose to sit with your new best friend or Kenny Claus. Also, he isn't the only one who's ever given Clementine a hard time....ahem....nearly the entire cabin group in episode 1. >.>
I don't think that would count as an insult at all really.
Guys he's absolutly right. You cant blame a kid for trying to save carlos from more pain. It isnt just kenny. It's the whole group. On every choices she makes, everyone look at her as they want to say "what have you done!". She is a little girl! Sry that the little girl cant defend the house on her own against carver. Sry that Omid dies! Because a good caretaker let the little girl alone in the toilet. Hey! she had a gun! So let's lock the girl in the shed because the walker girl could kill like 4 grown men in a minute! So WHY, WHY dont you save Petes life Clem! WHY! There are so many adults in the group but clem have to do more than carlos aka the worst doctor ever!
So dont blem this dude for saying the truth
Maybe I'm wrong but I took the ".. but i know one of us didnt just give up!" line as a shot at Luke, not Clementine. If it's the latter than LOL.
They locked her up in the shed because of what happened to Nick's mom. It was the best thing the cabin group could've done.
Just out of curiosity, how did you access the game text like that?
The best thing?! what about giving her medical support in the hous and seeing than what's happen? Walker-fiever comes really fast and after two years living in this apocalypse you should probably know how it works.
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The last time they brought in a bite victim, it killed Nick's mom. Look what that did to the group, they Couldn't let that happen again.
Well than sry to say that but than the group is retarded. I mean you dont die in a second. You had fiewer and your skin turns darker...You can WATCH the moment when she dies and than shoot her in the head?! I mean its a girl! A wounded girl! Even if she got bitten, I would give her a good time before it's time to go.Lock her in the shed is like "LoL lets leave her dying..."
Clem's probably defending Luke... Just like the I thought you were dead, Maybe if you chose to sit with Luke instead of kenny he will say this
do you want me to send them to you ?
Yeah they are, I'm ditching them to join Kenny if I ever get the chance.
No, thank you. Now that I know the name of the program I can find the rest of the details elsewhere, probably.
Since its determinant on what Clem did, I think its pretty clear its a shot at her, not Luke. So yes, he apparently wanted an unarmed 11 year old girl to fight to the bitter end against a group of thugs with assault rifles.
Same ol' Kenny. He's your BFF until you disagree with him, at which point he hates you forever.
Eh, I'm used to Kenny getting annoyed if you don't always agree with him. That's just how he is.
Its kind of annoying considering there was a perfectly good reason to give up. At the time, it seemed like it was the only way to keep Carlos from being killed. Kenny ends up giving up for the same reasons (he doesn't want Clementine or Sarita to be killed). Its really not any different than giving up to potentially save Carlos.