The problem with Walker *** showing up in episode 5
Rumours about Lee returning as a walker in episode 5 have been percolating ever since the slide for that chapter showed a frozen zombie (or corpse) dressed in clothes suspiciously resembling Lee's buried beneath a layer of snow.
The biggest hurdle with this idea is the basic behaviour of zombies themselves. Setting aside their physical appearance, they all act exactly the same. A person who encounters a zombified version of a loved one might project his/her own emotions onto that zombie, but it's one-sided drama. That's why most of these kind of scenes inevitably have predictable and cliched outcomes, with the non-zombified individual either delivering a mournful monologue to their ex-companion before shooting them in the head, or allowing them to take a bite out of their arm/neck/leg like an idiot. Suffice to say, it's doubtful Clem would do either.
Unless Kirkman is willing to let Telltale play around with the idea of portraying Lee as a semi-sentient zombie (a la "Bub" in Romero's DAY OF THE DEAD), it's best to leave him behind in that jewellery store in Savannah for good.
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I don't know where people are getting the zombie Lee idea from, likely the episode slide but personally I think that image of decomposing Lee is meant to be symbolic not actually Lee in the flesh(sort of). We've all said our goodbye's to Lee and we all have fond memories of him the way he is, bringing him back as a semi-sentient would cheapen his noble sacrifice and bringing him back for Clem to shoot again(Determinately) would just leave a foul taste in our mouths. Lee completed his duty brilliantly, let the man rest.
If that zombie lee.
he has come long way to the Wellington
Walker Lee? Do i have to shot him in the head another time? lol
Perhaps you do. Telltale might have given themselves a "back door" in the scenario where Clem shoots Lee. Clem had her eyes shut when she fired, and if you pay attention, you'll notice the gun jerks to the right as it goes off.
"Thanks, Lee. You always were there for me," Clem says, as Zombie Lee takes a big bite out of Carver's neck.
Hey bub is my nickname yey
Showing a walker Lee would be ridiculous. Even if – and I think this is highly unlikely – we end up going back to Savannah. If not, how the hell did it catch up with Clem?
Then again, I thought bringing back Kenny would be ridiculous and they grudgingly won me over with that one.
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Well, bringing Lilly in would've been more ridiculous.
I don't want to dredge this subject up again. I really don't. But…
We never saw her die or enter into an un-survivable situation. She could totally have come back into the story as an antagonist.
You know what? Yeah, lets just be glad we at least got a character from S1
You just DID respond, dumbass.
Turns out Lees fable plothole removed so survived and his wife was faith who he murdered so he escaped and met Clem genius. then rescues clem in episode 5 and kills carver and his group i would accept this ending kenny also survived his fable with mighty beard another plothole removed happy.
I might accept Walker Lee showing up in a dream sequence (like Walker Clem from Lee's nightmare), but otherwise it makes no sense to have Lee show up as a Walker. Doubly so if you shot him in the final episode, like I did.
Okay, guys...since you're all so busy upvoting an obvious troll like Walking Moustache, why don't you tell me why the scene I described is "too stupid in so many ways?" I'm just sticking with what I saw in the ending for S1. I personally believe it just implies Clem's gunshot was somewhat ambiguous.
Looooool that would be awesome!
The only way I see Lee coming back in any form is through a dream or hallucination.
What?
Casadh amach Lees plothole fable bhaint mhair amhlaidh agus bhí a bhean chéile de mheon a mharaigh sé amhlaidh éalaigh sé agus bhuail Clem genius. ansin tarrthálacha Clem i gclár a 5 agus a mharaíonn Carver agus a ghrúpa ba mhaith liom glacadh leis an kenny dar críoch mhair freisin a fable le féasóg mighty plothole eile a bhaint sona.
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I'm even more confused now.
CLEM KILLED LEE! Why do you think Clem would lie to Luke about killing him when she has no reason to? Then she continues to imply: "I had to do it. I had to."
Oh god watching two Kenny avatar users fight...NOBODY PICK UP A SALT LICK!
And then Toad appears and saves the day!
I am not trolling.
There is no way Walker Lee walked all the way from Savanah to Wellington, in the same time living persons do. Walkers don't just walk in one direction, Walkers get attracted by noise. Not to mention the obvious fact that Lee is already dead in 60% of peoples playthoughs, because Clementine already shot him in the head. The only troll here are you sir, the one thinking that Walker Lee was wandering all the way to Wellington.
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I don't get it either. Also, the clothes don't really look like his. I thought the zombie in the snow had a striped shirt on. I HIGHLY doubt that they'll have zombie Lee in Ep. 5. There is no evidence to support this theory. I agree with you, let him rest. I think Telltale will respect that his character had an emotionally moving exit. Bringing his zombie back would be gratuitous and would cheapen the story (not to mention, he was shot in the head in a lot of playthroughs).
If you are unable to argue about something, you shouldn't try to discuss about it. You are only fooling yourself here!
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I know that Lee is surely dead but since he was a the the character we are playing in the whole Season 1,Well it can't end like this.I am half-sure that in atleast in one episode of Season 2,Clemmy is going to have a flashback of the memories when she was with him.Or maybe a playable scene that you think you meet him again but then she wakes up and cries.
What do you think?
Seemed more feasible to me than Kenny somehow surviving through that alley with Ben, but what's done is done.
Clem seems to have traveled pretty far from where she shot/left Lee. He would have had to have trekked pretty far to be anywhere near Clem/Wellington.
Is that like... Welsh, or something?
You're telling me you think it's unreasonable for a walker to break out of handcuffs, then a store, and then walk over 1,000 miles as the crow flies without being killed or distracted? Obvious troll is obvious.
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I know guys, my Mustache is godlike and breath-taking, but it doesn't bite. Don't be scared!
Darn, I think that guy got banned, so the conversation got removed, but I wanted you to see my reply so I'll post it again. You're telling me you think it's unreasonable for a walker to break out of handcuffs, then a store, and then walk over 1,000 miles as the crow flies without being killed or distracted? Obvious troll is obvious.
Seriously though, it's over 1,000 miles from Savannah to Wellington, and you can't go as the crow flies. Assuming walker Lee got out of the cuffs, and then the store, and got into the street, he would need to hear something in order to start a pursuit. It would have to be perfect conditions for that pursuit to be specifically on the road of Wellington, and there would need to be absolute silence for the entire 1,000+ miles. That's nearly a full day of driving, so imagine walking that.
We'll assume walker Lee goes 15 miles per day in the direction of Wellington with no distractions, since walkers are slow. You're looking at a two month walk, full of twists, turns, trenches, open sewers, rivers, traffic jams, road blocks, armed humans, noisy animals, food sources, etc. If he stopped to eat once he would lose his direction most likely, since walkers have no sense of direction or purpose beyond their next meal. If it is walker Lee, it means that the stranger didn't die, and he found walker Lee and drove him to find Clem because he felt bad for that whole situation. That or it's just not walker Lee. Even if you left him, an even if Clem missed, it is still not walker Lee.
You're assuming noone used Walker Lee as a deterant for their base? I've said it before and I'll say it again..
It's possible this group we're heading for in ep 3 or whatever survivors ahead, havent gone the same path as clem and kept lee as a pet, fed michonne style? why not? We don't know shit about carver yet.
We didnt even get an explanation for that.. I mean, see how many walkers closed in on Ben when Lee reaches the rooftop? seriously..
It would depend on what happened in s1 ep5 with Lee.