mass fan wishes vs good writing.

edited March 2014 in The Walking Dead

It would seem that Kenny must have some sort of magician skills or wizardly teleportation knowledge because in the episode "No Time Left" I saw "No Exit Left" for the man to get through especially in the alley now with the dark room from the rooftop scene with Christa perhaps I could see him finding a closet door or stair well exit somehow but the Ben scene in the back alley was impossible when he was surrounded at both ends with no man hole sewage covers to get down through like Lee did when he was cornered in "Around Every Corner" by using Molly's climbing pick tool a.k.a "Helga" to pry open the man hole cover. But does anyone have the first clue on How on Earth could he had escaped? It's so impossible that not even Kenny knew himself, otherwise he would have explained how with a bit more detail than "well ya know, I just got lucky" as though he is talking about winning the lotto. Do you think Kenny should have returned based pretty much solely only on fan request and wishes in efforts to keep more players engaged into the game? I did love Kenny is season one the character was great and hilarious to me but it is similar to how the Daryll Dixon fans are in the AMC show adaptation which is possibly one of the main or only reasons Daryll is still surviving this long because the producers and creators fear some kind of fan boycott and loose money and ratings.lol But I'd just want to know other opinions regarding that impossible situation from last season that was actually determinant on if you saved Ben or not from the bell tower fall.

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  • TT didn't listen to the fans about Kenny. They had planned since his "death" in episode 5.

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    Kennys magical skills of wizardly teleportation knowleghe? No...just a godlike and breath taking Mustache that kept him alive!

  • LOL!

    Kennys magical skills of wizardly teleportation knowleghe? No...just a godlike and breath taking Mustache that kept him alive!

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    If Tyreese can do it, why the moustache lord can't?

  • I agree. I wanted a much better explanation. My Kenny only had one bullet which he selflessly used on Ben. I mean, did you see how packed the alley was, when Lee returned to the roof? There was no possible way for Kenny to get lucky.

    Even if he did find a manhole cover, he'd need an icepick to get out. It's just not possible, It's clear telltale returned him to avoid losing money, and it's sickening when you sacrifice good writing for money.. It can only go downhill here honestly, if we're going to have vague explanations and dues ex machinima's to please the fans.

    Best revive Lee from the dead too now and make him the main character of episode 4 or something.

  • In s2e2 in one scene Clem pushes a walker into another and knocks them over to escape. If she can do it I'm sure Kenny can as well.

  • Kenny mustache evolved into a beard in ep5, defeated the horde, and rematches itself to Kenny's Stache.

    Kennys magical skills of wizardly teleportation knowleghe? No...just a godlike and breath taking Mustache that kept him alive!

  • In all seriousness now...there was a sewer entrance and a window in the alleyway, so i assume he just climbed into one of those. And in the " Kenny saves Christa's life ending ", there were alot of ways for him to escape!

    Ladariel posted: »

    LOL!

  • Source?

    Omid posted: »

    TT didn't listen to the fans about Kenny. They had planned since his "death" in episode 5.

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    this is the response telltale should have given for Kenny

    stevean2 posted: »

    I agree. I wanted a much better explanation. My Kenny only had one bullet which he selflessly used on Ben. I mean, did you see how packed th

  • Now he's Kenny the Beard, instead of Kenny the Stache. He pulled a Gandalf.

    Omid posted: »

    Kenny mustache evolved into a beard in ep5, defeated the horde, and rematches itself to Kenny's Stache.

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    Love this fanbase

    Users: WE WANT KENNY!!!

    Telltale: Ok

    Users: No this doesn't make sense why would you do this

    Seriously just because he returned does'nt mean bad writing actually means they care what we think which i feel is better and with kenny added to the story makes the story more exciting can't wait

  • This

    In s2e2 in one scene Clem pushes a walker into another and knocks them over to escape. If she can do it I'm sure Kenny can as well.

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    I'm pretty sure that Telltale didn't made Kenny survive just because of the fans.TT are hinting that Kenny survived since No Time Left, when his status were "lost".

  • Well my ending says he so not dead. Show body then say that someone is dead.

  • I now refer to him as 'Deus Ex Makenny' or 'Kenny Sue'.

    But really reusing characters who've had their arc is really annoying.

    At least we weren't railroaded into liking him though? I mean, Clem can say 'I never really liked him' so that's good.

    stevean2 posted: »

    I agree. I wanted a much better explanation. My Kenny only had one bullet which he selflessly used on Ben. I mean, did you see how packed th

  • IAh yes I meant to mention Tyreese, but forgot before uploading. And atleast with Tyreese he had his hammer and really went into overdrive and hammered each and every one of those zombies. Kenny had just an unloaded gun unless he pistol wipped a few dozen walkers coming from both ends and wouldn't Christa had seen him do that from above the roof top as she actually was trying to look down and get a view.. Oh let me guess his impressive mustache scared away all those walkers?lol

    If Tyreese can do it, why the moustache lord can't?

  • muhabmuhab Banned

    Kenny looks like an asshole in the season 2

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    No not this, lol. There was a little and very hard to notice difference to Kennys alleyway scene and Clems escaping scene. Clem pushed away one single Walker. Kenny on the other hand would have to push away hundreds of them all at once. I know that his Mustache is a godlike source of power that would make every other man feel ashamed of himself, but it's not doable. There was a window and a sewer entrance in the alleyway, so i assume he just climbed into one of those.

    This

  • I believe he's refering to an interview with Kenny's actor, where he mentions that they where going to make kenny's death more obvious. Recording lines for it and everything.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Source?

  • While it WAS possible for him to escape either scenario (much more so in the Christa version, though) the explanation they gave was terrible. It wasn't even an explanation at all. It's easy, in the room he finds a door, in the alley he goes through a window. "I got lucky" is just horrible. Maybe they'll actually give us a REAL explanation of how we got out in later Episodes. Maybe.

  • Exactly!

    stevean2 posted: »

    I agree. I wanted a much better explanation. My Kenny only had one bullet which he selflessly used on Ben. I mean, did you see how packed th

  • I can just see Sarita dying in episode 3 and we going through another "asshole" Kenny phase again... y'know, this is all seeming too much like season 1.. the choices and everything..

    I think Telltale are trying to appeal to newbies more than anything right now, honestly.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I now refer to him as 'Deus Ex Makenny' or 'Kenny Sue'. But really reusing characters who've had their arc is really annoying. At leas

  • He probably could have pushed some out of his way when doing that though. I'm certain he pushed at least one during his escape.

    No not this, lol. There was a little and very hard to notice difference to Kennys alleyway scene and Clems escaping scene. Clem pushed away

  • Originally, before the episode was released they recorded a death scene where he was definitively killed with death screams and all. They then decided to change this and leave it ambiguous. Then the episode was released with the ambiguous version. This left them the option of bringing him back if they wanted, which people here seem to have by and large agreed with as a good idea and done in a tasteful manner. It was also a good move as it provides the interesting 'which person do you want to side with, the lovable new guy, or the somewhat damaged old friend'.

    It's not just pandering to the masses, it's a good story device.

  • That's two, Kenny was in a tight alley way with hundreds of walkers in every direction, you'd have no time or strength to just push one into the other with like 10 others grabbing you.

    I'll refer you to sarita's quote when he picks up the box...

    In s2e2 in one scene Clem pushes a walker into another and knocks them over to escape. If she can do it I'm sure Kenny can as well.

  • Clem: Kenny? I thought you were dead!

    Kenny: Kenny? Yes, that's the name people used to call me back on earth, Kenny the grey! I am Kenny the white...I got send back to earth to fulfill my task and my godlike Stache became even bigger!

    Now he's Kenny the Beard, instead of Kenny the Stache. He pulled a Gandalf.

  • Please dont generalize. Just cause a majority voted for kenny, doesnt represent the rest of us.

    Again, it makes no sense. Telltale appealing to thanks doesnt = good writing.

    Markd4547 posted: »

    Love this fanbase Users: WE WANT KENNY!!! Telltale: Ok Users: No this doesn't make sense why would you do this Seriously just be

  • I'm hoping that Telltale doesn't fall in that route, they already did that in Season 1, why do it again?

    stevean2 posted: »

    I can just see Sarita dying in episode 3 and we going through another "asshole" Kenny phase again... y'know, this is all seeming too much li

  • Weird how you think Telltale did it for money even though most people ALREADY BOUGHT THE GAME before he was confirmed. Also, I'm not happy with how they explained things wither, but I don't think it had anything to do with the fans at all.

  • Wrong, Kenny wasn't disarmed, he had the powerfull moustache and its magical abilities.

    Ladariel posted: »

    IAh yes I meant to mention Tyreese, but forgot before uploading. And atleast with Tyreese he had his hammer and really went into overdrive a

  • He escaped however they want to write it when/if they reveal how it happened. That's how writing works

    Why would they give you a detailed explanation over "I got lucky" right now? What's he gonna do, just narrate his whole escape in the middle of his first conversation with an old friend? It's not a significant thing for her like it was for us, she wasn't there to see what the alley was like. And why would Kenny be so willing to brag about it? He was a broken mess afterwards, I imagine he doesn't like to talk about it.

  • I, myself, assume he found a window or sewer entrance as well. Christa would have seen him if he was pushing his way out.

    No not this, lol. There was a little and very hard to notice difference to Kennys alleyway scene and Clems escaping scene. Clem pushed away

  • haha looks whos back

    muhab posted: »

    Kenny looks like an asshole in the season 2

  • Wish I could find the gif with his beard sparkling.

    Clem: Kenny? I thought you were dead! Kenny: Kenny? Yes, that's the name people used to call me back on earth, Kenny the grey! I am Kenny the white...I got send back to earth to fulfill my task and my godlike Stache became even bigger!

  • There's many things telltale fell into "the route" of from season 1, and imported it into season 2.

    • You have an almost antagonistic father protecting their "daughter". Both even say similier threats if you dare to speak to said daughter
    • End choices are almost similer. "Pick between these two." "Did you look for Character, Agree to take food"
    RichWalk23 posted: »

    I'm hoping that Telltale doesn't fall in that route, they already did that in Season 1, why do it again?

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    It's pretty clear that Kenny is trying hard to forget about the past, that's why I think he didn't explained much about it, he'll probably explain it better in the future episodes though.

    Rock114 posted: »

    While it WAS possible for him to escape either scenario (much more so in the Christa version, though) the explanation they gave was terrible

  • OP, could you please edit your title to avoid spoilers? Episode 2 only recently came out and not many people have got the chance to play it yet.

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    I never generalize that's why love the comment fanbase can mean anyone it's your own ignorance that connected it with the majority down to your perceptive what fanbase means one person could be the fanbase i'm refering to don't blame me for your interpretation of the word.
    As for making sense why so serious?

    stevean2 posted: »

    Please dont generalize. Just cause a majority voted for kenny, doesnt represent the rest of us. Again, it makes no sense. Telltale appealing to thanks doesnt = good writing.

  • Gee, I didn't realise it was dated reference day!

    You said "Love this fanbase" We're are all part of the same fanbase here on the forums. Unless haters make it some sport to come here and comment. Don't blame me cause you can't word things correctly..

    Markd4547 posted: »

    I never generalize that's why love the comment fanbase can mean anyone it's your own ignorance that connected it with the majority down to

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