Analysis of the trailer

Okay so here is the trailer of In harms way, I know the trailer's often arnt a good representation but we may as well look at it

I chose the one that most people got but anyway.

  • Firstly Nick and Alvin both make it to the new camp, so they live at least till then. However while Nick seems to be among the others Alvin is being held hostage somewhere
  • Kenny either is angry with Clem for giving up or argues that they did the right thing
  • Clem and Bonnie are smiling at each other, suggesting Clem is manipulating her or they are truly becoming friends. I think the ice pick behind them is just a re-used thing(if its molly's you think she'd have it on her)
  • Sarita is never seen at the camp only walking to it/ Everyone else is seen there at least briefly
  • We only see Troy and Bonnie as carvers forces (I assume there's others though)
  • Carver seems to be trying to "bond" with Clem maybe to try and make her like the new camp or see what good things there are.
  • Clem's sneaking around at night which must be against the rules (they appear to be sort of prisoners)
  • Kenny gets pistol whipped by carver, he's clearly not playing ball with carver. However the rest of the group Nick,Rebecca,Carlos,Sarah and Clem at least seem to be following the rules at least a bit as they are shown without bonds.
  • The camp seems to be a shopping mall, Lots of walkers are approaching. I think they likely wont be a problem, The camp looks like it has good defences.
  • Is there anything else anyone can see? What do you think from the trailer is going to happen in the episode?
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  • Clem and Bonnie are smiling at each other, suggesting clem is manipulating her or they are truly becoming friends. I think the ice pick behind them is just a re-used thing(if its molly's you think she'd have it on her)

    As fun as it seems, I don't think Clem is manipulative. So I'd rather think that Bonnie is not actually evil but just a person trying to survive.

    They camp seems to be a shopping mall, Lots of walkers are approaching. I think they likely wont be a problem, The camp looks like it has good defences.

    Nah, if this was the "storm" that Carver was talking about then I won't be worried that much. It's funny how Kenny also says "a storm is headed this way" similar to Carver in S1 XD

    We only see troy and Bonnie as carvers forces (I assume there's others though)

    This is obviously used to avoid spoiling the episode, but I'm thinking the characters from 400 Days are the part of Carver's "forces".

  • ya I don't think bonnie is evil. she is one of two things I think. 1. she could be a spy for tavia's group. or 2. she might not know/think carver is evil after all he could of told them that they kidnapped Rebecca or something ethier way I think he's malipulating her.

    I agree with Gengar its most likely to avoid spoilers it could be the people from 400 days.

    don't think sarita will be dead yet or Kenny would be way more depressed I think.

    I'm thinking there will be an option where clem pretends to be getting along with carver to gain trust.

  • Nate is the storm.

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    I did a playthrough where i let Nick and Alvin die and i noticed that the time of day changes when carver is talking to the group

    If Nick lives you see him standing with the group and it appears to be the middle of the day

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    But if Nick dies Rebecca is in his place and it appears to be some time around sunset

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    I know it will be different in the final game but i wonder what the time change means.

  • omg I totally forgot about nate lol. I hope he is in season 2 somewhere he's to awesome to be left out. that be cool if he like just crashed his truck through the gates and destroyed carvers group

    Nate is the storm.

  • could just be a oversight by telltale

    OzzyUK posted: »

    I did a playthrough where i let Nick and Alvin die and i noticed that the time of day changes when carver is talking to the group If Nick

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    Woah what? It seems like that had to be done for some reason, Maybe actually its sunrise and not sundown so they actually get their sooner if they have less people to escort

    OzzyUK posted: »

    I did a playthrough where i let Nick and Alvin die and i noticed that the time of day changes when carver is talking to the group If Nick

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    If the storm means anything, I'd guess he was referring to another group or inevitable infighting. Can't imagine what other altercations he'd be predicting.

    Kenny either is angry with Clem for giving up or argues that they did the right thing

    I gave up to help Carlos... I can already taste the new wave of Kenny disapproval.

  • Yeah I agree its 99% likely that the other 400 days people are there at least but I'm thinking a whole community

    Gengar posted: »

    Clem and Bonnie are smiling at each other, suggesting clem is manipulating her or they are truly becoming friends. I think the ice pick behi

  • Kenny gets pistol whipped by carver, he's clearly not playing ball with carver.

    Yeah, I expected that. Kenny's just not the guy to sit back and take orders, if he doesn't like something then he's going to speak up and say it. I doubt he'll adjust well to the camp, there's probably going to be even more tension between those two than what's shown in the trailer.

    Clem and Bonnie are smiling at each other, suggesting Clem is manipulating her or they are truly becoming friends.

    Eh.. maybe. I don't think Clem is that devious. Bonnie might genuinely turn out to be nice, who knows. Maybe we'll have the choice to either be rude towards her or friendly.

    I think the storm might be either a horde of walkers or a blizzard/actual storm. Both are equally bad since it means that the cabin group won't be able to escape, even if they could, due to outside conditions. So Clementine and co. might be forced to stay.

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    Looks like place they are in has an armory

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    Carver has an unused line..."like none we've seen before". Is he talking about the "storm" ?

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    Could that be the room that we see Clem and Bonnie in? The weapons could be locked away offscreen.

    vivec posted: »

    Looks like place they are in has an armory

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    I don't think its a oversight, all they would need to do is change the flag to swap the model from Nick to Rebecca.

    could just be a oversight by telltale

  • you can see that kenny has a blue eye in the scene that they walk to the camp, so i wonder what caused that

  • Seems like it!

    Thanks for this thread OP, pointed out some stuff I missed :)

    So excited for episode 3 :D

    vivec posted: »

    Carver has an unused line..."like none we've seen before". Is he talking about the "storm" ?

  • what?

    dylanvdg posted: »

    you can see that kenny has a blue eye in the scene that they walk to the camp, so i wonder what caused that

  • I want Vince to come back and be a main with helping/guiding Clem.

  • Could it be something like a tornado?

    As if walkers weren't enough, we would have to worry about some natural disaster...

  • Clementine is smart and willing enough to resort to blackmail to get what she wants. Feigning friendship and acceptance for Carver's group might be an easy task for her.

    Gengar posted: »

    Clem and Bonnie are smiling at each other, suggesting clem is manipulating her or they are truly becoming friends. I think the ice pick behi

  • Does anyone else get this weird feeling that out of the Two Determinant characters Nick will play a bigger role on the story ?

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  • Maybe, considering she's just a kid, she can easily gain anyone's trust.

    Conduit42 posted: »

    Clementine is smart and willing enough to resort to blackmail to get what she wants. Feigning friendship and acceptance for Carver's group might be an easy task for her.

  • Well, if we look at the teasers for the other episodes, usually most of the first half of the episode is shown and hinted at, while the ending has a bit of a teaser for the second half.

    what I mean:

    S1Ep.2 The bear trap scene was pretty much entirely spoiled and the food rationing was presented differently, but still pretty easily understood. Then the bandits are shown attacking Lee, but not sure how they get to that point and it also hints to something being suspicious about the dairy. You get nothing about being imprisoned or the people being cannibals though and it seems to try to mislead you by making the bandits look like the primary threat.

    S1Ep.3 The start where Kenny and Lee go to the pharmacy is spoiled, as well as the group leaving the motor Inn. The raid on the Motor inn is sort of given, but you only see 1 bandit being shot. After that, you just see Christa and Omid fighting zombies, which would seem to mean youre going to meet new people. Other than new faces, theres nothing seen about what happens after getting on the train though.

    S1 Ep.4 Only scenes inside the house and on the street in the beginning are shown, not much is given away that you didnt already know at the end of Ep.3, except Omid's leg is getting worse (which could have been predicted without seeing the trailer anyway)

    S2 Ep.2 It shows Clem and Pete/Nick trapped somewhere, followed by a visit from Carver and Clem telling the group. Then, they leave for the mountains to get away from Carver. In the end you get the "I thought you were dead scene"

    so... The trailers do follow a chronological order, they dont go from scene to scene randomly. Except for the S2EP.2 trailer, all of them confine the scenes in the trailers to the first half of the episode. For the most part, much of the first 2 main areas are shown.

    With this in light, its obvious theyre going to travel on foot back to Carver's camp, probably wont be any trouble, just dialogue isnt shown. The following scene would either be Kenny and Clem talking, or Carver introducing them to his group. So the warehouse Kenny and Clem are in may just be a rest stop, or it could be where theyre held initially at Carver's camp. I believe the following scene will be Carver taking Clem to the roof, then trying to introduce her to Bonnie. I believe the scene of her sneaking around is going to be somewhere in the middle of the episode.

    Thats all I can conclude as being VERY probable. My guess is going to be based on the idea that most of the scenes shown occur 1 after the other, like in most previous trailers and that there isnt TOO much subtlety in them. I think it will start with the group walking and finding a warehouse to rest in. Clem and Kenny are put together and Clem will be able to roam a bit to try and find something to use to escape or use as weapon. Carver will discover this and punish them by beating Kenny. Camera wipe to another "5 days later..." screen and they make it to Carver's camp, he does his introduction and Im guessing youll have the option to introduce yourself nicely or rudely to the group. Carver will then lead Clem to the roof to give her his speech, then introduce her to Bonnie to orient her to the camp. The scene where Clem is carrying the water bucket (presumably a duty she will be given to help the camp) I think will occur right after, but it might be anywhere in the episode. Clem sneaking around at night I think will occur later in the episode, which her reasons could be anything really.

  • "Bigby's Voice".. Woody, Im gonna break your fuckin' face !

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    THE WALKING DEAD TRAILERS IS WHY I HAVE TRUST ISSUES

    I stopped trying to understand what will come next based on twd trailers a long ago.

    In Episode 2 - Carver comes to get his "lost pack" but in the trailer it's clearly not the same person

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    EPISODE
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    AND THIS IS TROY

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    PLUS in the trailer CLEMENTINE says that someone was looking for Rebecca but in the Gameplay it's Sarah who does.

    Gengar posted: »

    Clem and Bonnie are smiling at each other, suggesting clem is manipulating her or they are truly becoming friends. I think the ice pick behi

  • How does people get into these files? It's genius!

    vivec posted: »

    Carver has an unused line..."like none we've seen before". Is he talking about the "storm" ?

  • That would be intense.

    iorek21 posted: »

    Could it be something like a tornado? As if walkers weren't enough, we would have to worry about some natural disaster...

  • I am so sorry I deeply apologise for my terrible actions of creating a discussion

  • I know its not perfect but ep 2's was pretty accurate. There were only minor changes

    THE WALKING DEAD TRAILERS IS WHY I HAVE TRUST ISSUES I stopped trying to understand what will come next based on twd trailers a long ago.

  • I saw something (but it's probably nothing)

    In the shot with Bonnie and Clem smiling at each other, in the background (where the ice pick is) you can see a radio that looks exactly like the one of Matthew.

    Like I said, it's probably nothing, but maybe Matthew wasn't that good of a guy after all.

  • I hope matthew want evil because i let Nick die because he shot him if he turns out to have been evil god i will feel so bad.But you might be right he might have had the radio in order to comunicate with carver and then capture luke and clementine and call carver over . But probably nothing ...

    I saw something (but it's probably nothing) In the shot with Bonnie and Clem smiling at each other, in the background (where the ice pick

  • And it'd be an interesting choice for TTG

    I've never seen something like that in a Zombie Apocalypse

    That would be intense.

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  • It makes more sense to assume that Carver and company just scoured the small cabin for useful items. Same as Clementine did.

    I saw something (but it's probably nothing) In the shot with Bonnie and Clem smiling at each other, in the background (where the ice pick

  • "Is that a fact?"

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    "Bigby's Voice".. Woody, Im gonna break your fuckin' face !

  • No actually Kenny says Hell is on earth and it's headed this way.

    Gengar posted: »

    Clem and Bonnie are smiling at each other, suggesting clem is manipulating her or they are truly becoming friends. I think the ice pick behi

  • Oh ok :D

    poplee posted: »

    No actually Kenny says Hell is on earth and it's headed this way.

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