Clementine Hit List (Predictions)
So far we know Clementine has killed about 2 people or is given the option too.
-Stranger (That abducts Clementine)
-Lee
To count someone as killed by Clementine she has to be the one delivering the final blow, so someone like Winston does not count because Clem only pushed him out of the way, she was not technically the killer. I also do not count Sam, just because Sam is a dog. (Sorry dog lovers, looking for human casualties)
If you'd like to argue about other people dying who you feel Clem is responsible for go ahead. This is just how i worked things out in my mind.
I'd like predictions for who we think Clem is going to off next. To get us started and get the obvious one out of the way I'll say Carver.
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I hope she kills Carver but only out of self defense. I don't want her to go looking for Carver if he runs off or some shit.
I think she will eventually get the option to off Carver, but next on the hit list imo is just a character made for fodder.
It'd be horrible if her next kill is an accident. I don't know how it would happen in practice, but killing Carlos or even Kenny because of a screw up would make me crawl into a corner and hate myself.
Honestly i'd rather her kill an already developed character than a fodder one 0_o. Of course that's just me. I feel like it would make the story-line better.
Probably an unnamed character or maybe that Troy guy. I hope she kills Carver though :S
For me her hands are clean. Lee killed the stranger himself, and Clem killing Lee was out of mercy and was what he wanted.
Yeah, I'm thinking Carver is going out by Clementine's doing. Perhaps in episode 4 - I'm thinking Amid the Ruins' slide represents the blood Clementine now has on her hands. But no matter what happens I'm pretty much 100% sure Clem isn't coming out of this with whatever innocence she had left intact.
Bonnie will get killed next in my playthrough.
in episode 5 i choked the stranger to death and left him to turn, also i don't count lee's because it was a mercy killing it wasn't actually someone she needed to kill to survive so for my clem she hasn't killed anyone.
Don't get me wrong at the moment I'm upset with her but I'm not gonna make any rash decisions till I hear her side of the story
I understand the mercy killing but the fact that she still had to kill someone was why i counted Lee. Killing anyone no matter what is still difficult. It all has a similar effect on her.
My Clem hasn't killed anybody yet, i couldn't get her to kill Lee, and the stranger was a little bitch who got the shit kicked out of him by a one armed badass Lee
I partially agree, but not exactly. I doubt that putting someone out of his/her misery would provoke the same kind of "My god, what have I done?" reaction that killing someone in anger might.
It's also important to remember that, even if Clementine never killed anyone, she's witnessed a number of murders. Some of them were even performed by her guardian and accepted by Clementine as necessary. Clem witnesses...
The scary truth is that killing likely won't affect her much at all.
I feel like every kill really does effect her a lot. I know I've discounted the dog, but when she does end up "killing" the dog you can tell the expression on her face tells you that she does not like what she has to do. You could also label the dog being killed as a mercy killing. Also with the other option leaving the dog, she still caused it to be in pain whether she had a choice or not. I know Telltale will make her kill someone. It may even be a Doug and Carley choice, which would be awful. ( I don't count the Pete and Nick choice because of the fact that the outcome is still the same no matter who you choose, Nick will live another day)
I think you mean Carver kill Walter (and Alvin?)
It was a murder suicide. Don't let Telltale tell you otherwise.
My Clem is just ready. She killed The Stranger and Lee out of mercy. If the option is given,I wouldn't even let her spare Carver. It's sad,but Season 1 Clem is just almost totally gone in my let's play. The only people I/she care about are the ones of MY/HER group (I saved Nick and Alvin and I gived up to Carver because I was concerned about Carlos),fuck the rest.
Walter possibly let's Nick die. I'd count that as murder.
True, but Walter doesn't commit the act himself. Nick is still technically killed by a walker, not another human. It's not the same as Lee impaling Andy St.John with a pitchfork in a fit of rage.
Still, I'd count it as murder, regardless of the fact that he didn't "commit the act".
Cersei...Joffrey...Ilyn Payne...The Hound...Oh wait, wrong series. I won't make her kill anyone out of malice. That kind of thing leaves a stain on you. She should only kill either out of mercy or in self-defense.
That being said, when it comes to someone like Carver, I have a pretty low standard for what counts as self-defense.
Technically, she DID kill Winston. Or are you telling me if I pushed someone off a cliff that it wasn't murder?
That's fair, but my list only consisted of direct kills. Otherwise I would have listed Walter letting Nock get eaten and Lee dropping Ben in Crawford.
It's different. Clem has plausible deniability. It could be argued that she never intended to push him into a walker and that his death was a direct consequence of his on reckless actions. It's not the same as if Clem shot him in the head or stabbed him, etc.
Also, lets not confuse kill and murder. Killing in self-defense is not murder.
hm, I still think she killed him, even if just by accident. If I stumbled and pushed someone off a cliff while I try to regain my balance, I would not have had the intention to kill the person I pushed, but I would have still killed him nonetheless. Even if I had managed to grab him and pull him back...if he fell his death would be on me. I think same applies to Clem's case.
I read the thread title as "Clementine Hat List".
I thought my quest in purchasing a quality Clem hat would finally be brought to its conclusion. I was wrong.
I want her to kill
Becca, Bonnie and Carver. Situations doesn't matter so long it is well executed.
"Clementine Hit List" lol she's not Arya ffs.
Sorry to disappoint you friend
Ye that's why i was conflicted when adding Winston to the list. The way I saw it, she didn't deliver the final blow which killed him, the walker did. I guess you could say I'm looking at it from a gamers perspective as in; if you shoot it, its that persons kill.
Are we counting walkers? I saw a play-through where Clementine shot a walker in the head to save Molly. You have to bring her with you to Crawford. There are also numerous walkers in Season 2 that Clem has killed so far. If we mean just living people, then ignore me. I'm still a The Walking Dead noob. I'm getting caught up though.
I would like to see Carver make it through this season because I am such a huge Michael Madsen fan. I do want to see Carly come back.
Ah, I see. I couldn't help but laugh for a sec when I imagined a kill feed on the top right corner.
"Walker0147 + Clementine -> Winston"
on winston's screen:
"Arena mode. No respawn until round is over. End of round in: 214 billion years, 8 months, 28 days, 5 hours, 37 minutes, 7 seconds."
Chat:
Winston: Jesus, are you fucking kidding me!?
Clementine: LOL, get rekt, n00b.
Winston: damn hacker kids!
Winston left the game (disconnect by user)
Clementine: lol, ragequit!
Walker0147: rahrgharghargh (supposed laughter)
Nah m8 just Alive people. If we counted walkers Clem would be on a god-like streak.
"Lee ---> Duck" Announcer: KILLING SPREE!
*Kenny will remember that
lol
Hah, or if they were playing an MMORPG:
[World] Kenny: want to buy BOAT. /w me for details.
Vernon whispers: have boat. need battery and medicine.
Kenny whispers: deal.
later:
[World] Kenny: DON'T TRADE VERNON!!! HE'S A SCAMMER! HE AND HIS GUILD KILLED MY PARTY, TOOK ALL MY STUFF AND RAN AWAY! BAN HIM!
[World] Vernon: LOL
[Party] Kenny: Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, FUUUUCK
[Party] Ben: Maybe we can swim?
[Party] Kenny: That's fucking stupid, Ben.
[Party] Omid: Rezz, pls.