What do you think of Kenny's idea to head to Wellington?

edited April 2014 in The Walking Dead

In it he mentions....
Fresh water.
Lots of land.
And cold winters that, in theory, would slow the walkers down, if not cause them to freeze solid.

The distance between North Carolina and Wellington is 853 miles.
Walking 20 miles a day, if able, it would take roughly 42 days to get there.
10 miles a day would make it an 85 day trip!

Since the most common way to travel seems to be on foot, the group's members, Kenny, Clementine, Luke and etc, are no doubt in very good shape physically.
So the trip from that standpoint, to me, seems possible.

And as far as the danger of being attacked by walkers on the way, is nothing new to them.
After almost 2 years since it all began, they should be pretty adept at dealing with any walkers that show up.
At least Kenny sure is, and even Clementine's skills seemed to have sharpened significantly.

Of course, walkers are not the only thing to be concerned about.
There's also Bears,( mostly black bear, as Grizzlies are mostly found in Alaska, Canada, Wyoming, and parts of California), Cougars, Wolves, ( Which can also be found in some eastern states), Coyotes, ( Who tend to take down small animals when not scavenging, and a child could be on their dinner menu).

However since civilization has but all disappeared, these animals would no doubt be spreading out into other states, as they done hundreds of years before.
So those are added dangers the group would have to face!

Granted, fresh water and having lots of land is never not a good thing.
They only thing I would personally be concerned about is, keeping warm and fed when winter strikes.
Winters in Michigan are extremely harsh, as I'm sure anyone who lives in Michigan will attest to.

However, when everything is said and done, I think it's a good plan in itself.
Not only because it's with in the realm of possibility, but also because it conveys a message of hope.
That yes, mankind will persevere in the face of adversity, and eventually become victorious!

That's one thing I've always loved about Kenny, and is one of the things that has always drawn me to his personality, his relentless hopefullness.

When they do arrive, on thing that I hope is a dialogue option is, to suggest that the group, recon the place, to see if it's friendly or not.
Kenny may just want to walk up the place and ask to enter, as he does tend to be impetuous at times.

How about you, what are your thoughts on Kenny's plan to head to Wellington?

Comments

  • its a good plan. judging by episode 5's thumbnail i think they make it, however I'm sure something will go wrong.

  • edited April 2014

    Well, the thing is, it's not just Kenny's plan. Everybody is trying to head up there. And that spells trouble. Even if most of those people are fairly decent (which, let's face it, they're not), the more people living there, the fewer resources there are going to be. And winter is coming. [cue Game of Thrones theme]

    So yeah I'm not too keen on the whole "head up to Wellington" thing. But heading north in general isn't such a bad idea for the reasons laid out. So if I were them, I'd keep heading North but I wouldn't put too much stock into Wellington as an ideal settlement.

  • ItsGabeeItsGabee Banned
    edited April 2014

    I think it's a good plan, But I think that Michigan would be like Crawford, where people heard where there's still survivors there, only to be disappointed that it's overrun. We'll just have to find out on the later episodes.

  • It's the new boat plan, what could possible go wrong?

    But seriously, i think going to Wellington is a very smart idea and if Christa is still alive, she will be going there aswell!

  • It beats the boat plan that's for sure

  • maybe by riding a horse like in TLOU :p

  • I love that game!
    The Last Of Us, in my opinion, is the best apocalyptic game, next TWD, ever made.

    The only thing I wished they would've had, is in game moral decisions loke are in the walking dead, would've been in The Last Of Us.
    But still, wonderful game!

  • Why don't people carjack any more? Everyone does it before a zombie apocalypse, but during the apocalypse does everyone prefer to go on foot?!

  • Just go to the coast and get a boat to go up the eastern seaboard. Boats are always an A+ plan.

    Why don't people carjack any more? Everyone does it before a zombie apocalypse, but during the apocalypse does everyone prefer to go on foot?!

  • I don't think that was Kenny's idea dude :p

  • edited April 2014

    I've got a bad feeling that Wellington is just another "Boat" or "S.S. Salt-lick". It sounds great in theory, but things are bound to go wrong.

  • What's with the fucking downvotes?

    ItsGabee posted: »

    I think it's a good plan, But I think that Michigan would be like Crawford, where people heard where there's still survivors there, only to be disappointed that it's overrun. We'll just have to find out on the later episodes.

  • edited April 2014

    I think it would be a bad idea to head to Wellington. The cons out weigh the pros to me.

    Pro:
    1. Huge community

    1. Winter = slower and fewer walkers

    2. Wellington possibly has a food source of some kind.

    3. We may reunite with other lost characters.

    4. We may meet up with other good travelers.

    Cons:

    1. Huge community but who is it run by? It could be a cult or someone worse then Carver.
    2. Winter does have slower and fewer walkers but Winter is only temporary. In the comic after the first winter the walkers just got back up out of the snow and were back to normal herding up and chasing people.
    3. There's also the danger of living outside during the cold winter nights getting frost bite and freezing to death.
    4. If Kenny and Lilly were to meet up again if they both were headed to wellington I bet they would kill each other but odds of that are slim. Even worse what if in a bizarre twist of events Lilly was the leader at Wellington since she had a thirst for for leadership in season 1 but that's also unlikely.
    5. Lots of other people are headed to Wellington meaning food scavenged along the way will be scarce. Even hunting would be limited due to animal hibernation and among those people headed to wellington there are bound to be bad people.
  • edited April 2014

    Edit: Bleh double post

  • edited April 2014

    It's as good a plan as any. Even if Wellington turns out to be bullshit or overrun, it keeps their heads busy and gives them something to aim to. "Try not to die" is not the best life goal. And I think all the grizzly bears and coyotes are eaten by walkers by now, if not by people.

  • *downvote It's just one downvote. Chill.

    ItsGabee posted: »

    What's with the fucking downvotes?

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited April 2014

    The walkers and animals are the only threat. As Jolene says "it's the living you gotta worry about." The group has a couple of hunting rifles, some pistols and melee weapons. They'd be fine against Walkers, but a few hostile scavengers armed with assault rifles would take them apart.

    Overall, Wellington is a big 'hope spot', but I sincerely doubt that it's a long-term solution.

  • Am I detecting sarcasm or legitimate agreement?

    Lemoncakes posted: »

    Just go to the coast and get a boat to go up the eastern seaboard. Boats are always an A+ plan.

  • Yep. Just one downvote... from me.

    ItsGabee posted: »

    What's with the fucking downvotes?

  • edited April 2014

    The answer adapts to the choices you make.

    The sincerity is tailored to how you post.

    Am I detecting sarcasm or legitimate agreement?

  • Sounds good to me.

    Lemoncakes posted: »

    The answer adapts to the choices you make. The sincerity is tailored to how you post.

  • edited April 2014

    You've raised some very important points.
    But isn't still worth trying at least?
    People need to believe there is hope.
    And everyone needs a purpose.
    Otherwise they fall apart, and people like the St John's are born.

    Without hope, people can become like wild animals.
    Doing whatever it takes, including hurting or killing innocent people, in order to survive.
    And in the process, sacrificing everything that makes them human beings.

    Lee4ever posted: »

    I think it would be a bad idea to head to Wellington. The cons out weigh the pros to me. Pro: 1. Huge community * Winter = slower a

  • edited April 2014

    Just commenting about the groups weapons.
    And the groups ability to defend themselves.

    When Carver attacked, the group was almost completely caught off guard.
    Plus they already had walkers they were dealing with, and were therefore already out in the open.
    If they had been forced up in the lodge at the time of the attack, even though they didn't have assault rifles, I firmly believe Kenny's group,( I merely say Kenny's group, as Kenny seems like more of natural leader), could have repelled Carver and his thugs.

    Even though they had hunting rifles and some pistols, being forted up in the lodge, would give them a huge advantage.
    Carver would surely be smart enough not to rush them while they're in there.
    And with food in the cabin, as well as drinking water I'm sure, Kenny's group could hold out for quite a long time.

    Plus, their hunting rifles would be a lot more accurate then Carver's assault rifles!
    Firing from the second floor or alternatively the roof, Kenny and Nick,( as he's the only other man in the group armed with a rifle), could pick off Carver and his thugs from complete or at least relative safety.

    And about Wellington, it may not be a Permanent solution, but it does give them purpose.
    A reason to keep going!

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    The walkers and animals are the only threat. As Jolene says "it's the living you gotta worry about." The group has a couple of hunting rif

  • edited April 2014

    Cars need gas.
    And people have more than likely been sifening gas like crazy, in order to keep warm or for other uses.
    And also, cars naturally will break down, even when not in use.
    For example, tires go flat, fuel gums up in the fuel injectors, batteries die,( which if that happens, it makes hot wiring the car not an option), etc.
    So just because are there still cars, that doesn't mean they'll run.

    Plus, cars can also be a target.
    Not necessarily for walkers, but for other people.
    Say if there's a desperate or violent group out and they happen to spot a car, one that actually runs, but is currently in use by others.
    What do you think the likelihood is of the violent group not killing the other and taking the car?

    So while going on foot might be harder, in some respects it's more safer.

    Why don't people carjack any more? Everyone does it before a zombie apocalypse, but during the apocalypse does everyone prefer to go on foot?!

  • edited April 2014

    If it wasn't Kenny's, why did he bring it up?
    Besides, Kenny came up with the boat idea in season 1!
    Who's to say he wouldn't come up with Wellington idea now?

    Kenny's not only an optimist, but he's also a planner.
    Kenny is also an intelligent man.
    He may not be college educated like Lee, but he's very hands-on smart.
    Plus he has a knowledge of how to navigate, given his history as a commercial fisherman.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I don't think that was Kenny's idea dude

  • You misunderstand me.

    The thread makes it's sound like Kenny came up with the idea: loads of people were already doing it, including Christa!

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    If it wasn't Kenny's, why did he bring it up? Besides, Kenny came up with the boat idea in season 1! Who's to say he wouldn't come up with

  • i like the idea but nick doesn't like the ice ice baby

  • edited April 2014

    I meant more for his group.
    Granted it's not a new idea, like the boat idea, but since Kenny brought it up when he mentioned his group possibly traveling uo there, it just seemed to make sense that he's the one who thought of it.
    At least to me anyway.

    When I originally posted the idea, I took it from what Kenny said about the place.
    And then added additional details about what it would take to make the journey.
    Plus what the group could potentially encounter.

    Flog61 posted: »

    You misunderstand me. The thread makes it's sound like Kenny came up with the idea: loads of people were already doing it, including Christa!

  • Nope. i basically have 17 now. :3

    Bubadoo posted: »

    *downvote It's just one downvote. Chill.

  • He can go. I'm staying with Luke. :3

  • Didn't Ken also say he wanted Clem to stay at the ski lodge with them?

    He did in my play through at least

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I meant more for his group. Granted it's not a new idea, like the boat idea, but since Kenny brought it up when he mentioned his group poss

  • i think as long as shelter/sufficient blankets/clothes can be found and they can tough out the winter, theoretically it should be great. but since anything that can go wrong will go wrong, I doubt it'll be that easy.

  • I think it's a great plan, because if Christa is anywhere then she's going to be heading to Wellington. I don't think Wellington itself will be pleasant in the slightest, but I simply want to get there because it's the best chance of finding out what happened to Christa.

  • Here's another for complaining

    ItsGabee posted: »

    Nope. i basically have 17 now.

  • Not going to lie, I honestly hope Wellington is actually going to be everything it sounds like it'll be and will actually result in a happy ending, but at the same time I am well aware of how "safe havens" are like in The Walking Dead. They come in one of three possible scenarios:

    1. A hope spot that crumbles once they get there, the place overrun or no safety to be found anywhere
    2. Only appears good, but in reality turns out to be like the St. John farm or worse.
    3. An actually haven... that eventually falls either from a horde of Walkers or an all out war between different human groups

    Just once, just ONCE I'd like the supposed safe haven to live up to its promise and stay safe!

  • Yes Kenny does want her to stay with him.
    But that doesn't mean that Kenny's group wouldn't move on eventually, and Clementine would go with him.
    Like she and Lee did in season 1.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Didn't Ken also say he wanted Clem to stay at the ski lodge with them? He did in my play through at least

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