Is it just me or is Snow kind of a bitch?
I mean, obviously there's the infamous line from episode 2 where she tells Bigby "I'm not yours to lose", but wasn't she also kind of a hardass about Aunty Greenleafs tree? I was on the fence about what to do with AG at first, but then Snow started being rude, telling Bigby that burning down the tree is an order, and generally just not giving a crap about Auntys well being at all, so I kind of just thought, "fuck you, Snow" and hired Greenleaf. Snow didn't like that, but I decided to do what's right instead of what she wanted out of misplaced vengeance for Cranes creepiness. This makes me sad, because usually Snow's so compassionate and reasonable and kind, but it seems like sometimes she just lets her emotions get the better of her. Don't get me wrong, I've grown to love Snow's character over the course of this series like I love very few other fictional characters (Alyx Vance from Half-Life 2 springs to mind), I'm just disappointed in the mean streak she's been showing lately. What do y'all think?
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I think Snow was just so disoriented, after everything that happens. Renember what Beauty said? There is more stuff that she has passed through that we don't know about. I really like Snow character, and I hope she don't become a bitch.
The way the she comes across in episode 3 is kind of in keeping with her character from the comics. She can seem cold and harsh. But, it really has to do with how she had to learn to stand up for herself because of her rough past. Plus, she's dealing with some bitterness too because she has been hurt so many times. It's just how she learned to survive. She's still compassionate at times, but she's also very assertive and she has a temper. Honestly, I thought her character was a little too soft in the first episode (compared to the comics).
Did not listen to her about the tree, though. Lol Bigby is still his own wolf!
Don't call her a bitch!
She just has her temper with Bigby.
i think she has pretty good temperance for someone who's practically a scapegoat for everything wrong in fable town.
i also believe auntys situation was a compromise and felt getting rid of the tree was for the best for people of fable town as a whole (refer to what crane said about sacrifices and her past http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/65149/snow039s-past-potential-comic-spoilers giving her greater compassion towards people like faith and lilly (more so than aunty does)).
personally i feel aunty was over exaggerating, even without the tree she has much more than snow began with (and snow still made it to the top)
but i do feel her contempt towards crane was very personal for her (crane maybe reminds her of the dwarfs) although thats not objectively a bad thing as it just further develops our understanding of the character. hell bigbys personal moments define him.
so no i don't think she's a bitch in fact i think quite the opposite and i respect her more thanks to this episode
You can say Snow is pretty........ Cold
I burned the tree (._.)
I don't care if it ruined Aunties life. She used it ill, she will no longer have it.
Thats makes her like every other person on the planet, lol
No ur right she's a straight up bitch. The I'm not yours to lose line, really upset me. The Snow White I remember from the old days was nothing like twau one. Fuck her. I wish big by would've ripped her throat out instead of dums.
I guess I got a lot of thumbs down comin huh?
She isn't a B. The woman is just strong-willed like Bigby. So you have two A type personalities, there will be disagreements. I have disagreed with her often if it conflicts with Bigby's decision making process. He is the sheriff after all, and she is the chief of operations. However, throughout the episodes she's been a tad bit to indecisive IMO, so that's why I go with my best Wolf judgement.
Yeah... I really didn't like her that much this episode because of a scene with Greenleaf... I hope she'll get past it
Badum tish! ... i... i'll better go...
I found it somewhat strange how much nicer she was in the first episode of the wolf among us since her character in the comics is more cold and harsh as Violet_Zephyr said. When I was playing the second and third episodes, I found her character in the game more fitting with her character in the comics so I was "Ok, this seems better" although I liked when she was nice to Bigby.
I also knew fans who play the game and don't read the comics would think of her as getting bitchier and more bitter than she was previously although that is who she is in the comics.
As I mentioned before though, I do like her nicer side towards Bigby but I kind of knew she would get a little bossier than before.
bigby punches op in the face
dont call her that..
I agree with her emotion clouding her judgement,as I hired aunty greenleaf which means fabletown will control her,instead of recklessly destroy other people's life,but that doesn't mean she's a bitch,she's just trying not to look weak
Bitch bitch bitch.
If you know about her past, you'd know why she can be harsh sometimes.
This thing with Crane, especially, may have triggered some unwelcome memories from a distant past.
Beauty warned us, didn't she?
Can't believe so many people think she should have kept it. Greenleaf abused its power, and thrived on peoples suffering.
I don't know why Bigby has a thing for her. She looks not just cold, very mean.
She can be upset, she can be mean, but what annoys me is she always acted like she was better person than Bigby, pointing out Bigby's temper problem and his violent nature, then she acts like that?
Not exactly. Back-alley never happens without needs that are not being met by the 'front-door' way. Snow referenced that herself in #1 in the taxi. Snow, turning people away when they need help. The witches/wizards charging too much for something that you need to avoid being thrown to the farm (jail?). It all contributes.
There is a way to not burn the tree and not hire AG; but that didn't feel as 'fitting' as having some dialog that would make Snow re-evaluate the situation herself. She wants to nail Crane for embezzlement eventually - and the evidence backs that up. The monkey already stated that AG was not doing anything illegal. It is not illegal for her to craft magic in her own way, for her own costs. Snow should have been able to come to the hire or maybe community service thought herself.
I so wanted Bigby to come back with, "You are my FRIEND and that makes you 'mine to lose'." I mean sure they are not officially an item - but that doesn't mean her dying wouldn't affect him.
How did she thrive on people's suffering? All she did was make bootleg glamours for people who couldn't go to the 13th floor witches to get them.
It's been mentioned several times that glamours are ridiculously expensive and a lot of Fables just can't afford them. If Auntie Greenleaf is offering them a viable alternative to being shipped off to the Farm, what's wrong with that? It's not like she's taking advantage of them and keeping them in a state of perpetual debt like Georgie and his Puddin' & Pie club.
Looking at Snow's situation so far, especially when consideing her back-story not seen in the game, remind me of a quote when reading/watching Dolores Claiborne.
"Sometimes being a bitch is all a woman has to hold onto."
.....BITCH?
She's probably just on the edge. I mean from her perspective she has blood on her hands because of what happened to Lily. Also a psycho was making a prostitute look like her and banging her using fabletown money I don't see how that wouldn't make anyone in her place unstable. She just wanted to finish that mess before it was too late.
Yeah this episode she wanted to burn the tree witch would result in ruining someones life and considered herself the boss of the office. It didn't sit well with me. Bluebeard or Bigby are the only ones capable of running the office, in my opinion.
Yep i believe that she has become meaner..i mean she punched Crane, she has a probelm with bigby if he doesn't burn the tree(later on when you talk to Crane and he says that <> she says <<sometimes it's fuzzy>>) and she doesn't care if you punch Georgie even though she constantly tells you to not lose control.. so yeah i agree with you.
I'm guessing she's turning into the ice queen she is in the comics
Magnets.
So a girl whose boss is having dark sexual fantasies about her can't act on her emotions without being called a bitch? Umm, right.
Auntie was involved into the Murders with her own little 'cheaper' Market. Obviously not intended to support something like such Crimes. But Glamours are like Drugs in Fabletown i guess. Naturally Crime will be involved at a certain Time. It's the easiest Target for it because a lot of Fables are needing it. And she's just a old Lady after all. She lost Control over it or simply got intimidated from higher Instances.
And Snow just wanted to have a proper Act being done there. The right Thing. Yeah she was a little too forceful and maybe it got over her Head with burning down the Tree. She too is personally going through all of it with the Lilly and Crane Thing. Its tough to keep a clear Head. Also she is the most of a Representative who should stay for kindness and function in all of this. Moral Authority. Try to keep it up and you're having a hard Time.
She kept doing it EVEN before she fucking knew it so yeah it's her substantial and not cause.. I miss episode 1 Snow White, I FUCKING MISS EPISODE 1 SNOW WHITE. You know what I bet the current Snow is a glamoured someone else and not actually Snow, yes call me fucking crazy but I still believe it's not the real snow. For me the old Snow died a long time ago.
Snow Fakers two Times? That'd be lazy Story enhancement don't you think?
Snow is the only political authority and probably was after Cole went on a diplomatic trip. Snow has become obsessed with the case since episode 2. Crane took snips of her hair and gave it to Aunty Greenleaf. Finding out what Crane was doing made her snap. She snaps when the dwarves are mentioned in the comics.
actually nvm
Oh.
Of course it's a stressful situation for her, and I feel for her because of that. But why "act on her emotions" towards someone who has almost nothing to do with it? Aunty's just trying to make a living, and what she's doing is not intrinsically bad. Crane could have just as easily bought the glamour from someone officially qualified to sell it, and the outcome would have been the same. I don't believe Aunty's at fault here. It's obvious to me that whoever killed Lilly thought that Lilly was Snow, and was trying to send a message to Bigby. Aunty had nothing to do with that. She makes a product, and whatever her clients do with that product is irrelevant to her. Snow was just creeped out that Crane bought the glamour from Aunty, and therefore had ill feelings toward her based on circumstantial events, and that's plain wrong in my opinion. I understand her feelings, but it's not right to act on them like that.
But he's right^^