Episode 4- In Sheep's Clothing
So we all know the next big thing coming up with all these new characters. In this discussion we can eiter discuss what we think might be, what has been, both, or just fangirl over stuff. But my side on it is a question to get us started. Does anyone have an idea for what "In sheep's clothing" might mean? You look at it and there are lots of possibilities. What do you think?
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I'm going to add quickly, I've done a little reseach and I have some theories of my own.
1) Does anyone listen to sheep?- In Sheep Clothing might mean something minor might happen that actually turns out to be something huge. Let's say for example that something happens where you have a discussion with a character that gives off clues hidden or made seem doubtful? I imagine this maybe being with the boy who cried wolf (but I more think this will happen in episode 5- "Cry Wolf").
2) Bigby Sheep?!- I think Bigby might try to do something to get some info on this group or Crane back so he will make himself minor (maybe that bad guys will think he's dead or to badly injured to do anything since he did get shot like 50 times or something.) This will give a huge advantage to the good guys.
What do you think?
Considering we get to decide the fate of a tree that's used to make glamours, I suspect Bigby might have to go undercover as someone else to draw out the killer, or use one of Crane's many glamour capsule things to take on a form he used. Whatever the case, episode 4 should be rather entertaining.
Looking at the title card for ep.4, and with a simplistic approach, I believe "In sheep's clothing" refers to Bluebeard taking over the Business Office previously run by Ichabod Crane. Here, the definition of "sheep" is: a person regarded as timid, weak, or submissive, whom Crane fits rightfully under. And clothing can be a metaphor for Crane's job position that he no longer holds.
Bluebeard undoubtedly views other Fables as sheep since he was one of the few individuals who was able to take his wealth with him from the Homelands. Thus, he has been able to invest capital into the Business Office, which gives him a fair amount of power over Fabletown.
It definetily seems like a possibility. But what about those that burned the tree I wonder?
I see how that would work
Very interesting perspective you have. I like it.
Like I said about Crane's other glamours, when you catch Jack in Crane's apartment and tell him to hand over everything he's 'procured', there are about 3 more glamour capsules, so some of them might be for Crane's own use to not be identified when going to his "massage", and some might be a backup for Lily to use in case the power of one wears down or something.
So the people who decided to follow Snow's orders and burn Auntie Greenleaf's tree will still have the ability to use a glamour, though not one of their own making.
Someone that you dont expect is the killer, someone who seems harmless.
Ah I see what your saying. That's a great theory!
Hmm
I wonder who... Who do youthink it might be? New character or old?
I dont have a clue. Im not good at speculating. I just am enjoying watching the mystery unfold. All I can say is, it has to be someone that we dont know from the comics because then that would have been addressed in the comics. I was thinking Georgie and I guess he's my best suspect.
It's alright ^_^ I'm the same. Maybe it will also be a new character. Who knows, but I love your thought on it.
I think episode 4 may have something to do with bigby's wolf form. I read some of the comics and at one point in book 1 chapter 3 Bluebeard forced bigby to change into a wolf and he said "so the wolf finally sheds his sheeps clothings". I'm not to sure because I have suspicions that Bluebeard is the crooked man.
'In Sheep's Clothing' refers to someone who's managed a low profile. 'Blended right in'. And judging by the cover, it's easy to say that it's about Bluebeard and his sudden rise to power in Fabletown. But There can be surprises
or we might never get to see the cover in the episode, pretty much like both of Ep 3's covers.
But on a more serious note, I think the whole title is a reference to Ichabod, this guy knows way more than he says, it was obvious from the start. but still, he somehow managed a low profile until Bigby interfered and then his boss and Bigby chased him down. He's still in 'Sheep's clothing' and his secrets, still unrevealed.
That right isn't it? I can't help but think though that it's going to be bloody mary who does it because of the preview we got to see for the next chapter. Bluebeard also has points to so one them definitely.
I think the most that can be said so far is that it's someone who has a history with Bigby and perhaps Faith's father. I'm not entirely sure if Lily was killed despite looking like Snow, or if she was killed because she looked like Snow and the killer made a mistake, but we'll just have to wait and see. Georgie doesn't have much motive to kill his own employees, so that might be reason enough to dismiss him.
That is true! Now we have bloody mary, bluebeard and crane. Anyone else we are missing?
I think TellTale should go the undercover route and have Bigby glamour himself as another fable, because it'd be interesting appearing as someone else and seeing how people react to you differently.
However this episode makes me think of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".An under-cover agent will be cool and Bigby's swag will grow.
He might give himself away by lighting a cigarette, though... I wonder if he can kick the habit to solve the case? ;P
It's not really a habbit. In the comics he tells snow that he smokes so he can block all the smells and noises from the city.
It would be cool to see Bigby glamoured as Nerissa
) or Snow
Oh! That's good to know. Thanks.
Two problems:
Crane looks like himself when having sex with snow
And what if you don't meet Jack and burn the tree?
Crane doesn't need the glamour in room 207. Unless he doesn't like his size.
Well, maybe Bigby himself ? because it's usually 'The wolf in sheep's clothing'.
Maybe the reason bogb is nerf down is because that isn't the real bigb...
lol
Pre or post mermaid
Presumably Episode 4 will revolve around the Crooked Man's organised crime syndicate and his enforcer Bloody Mary. From that perspective it makes sense for Bigby to go all undercover cop.
I am firmly on the Vivian train, possibly with the help of Clever Hans.
What, so he meticulously glamours and unglamours every time he enters, and takes pictures of himself in his unglamoured form and leaves them around?
I certainly think Clever Hans may be more important than he seems
The only one that has a connection to both is definitely not the killer. There was a topic I created a long time ago on how Bigby knew Faith. Sadly your suspect was at the North Castle, as well as protect Bigby despite Bigby's thoughts on him.
I think it's just a reference to the fact Bigby is basically masquerading a different person from what he was like in the homelands. Thus, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, or his position as the sherrif.
Yes there is that flaw, but still I believe that those glamour tubes could be useful for something. Either they are all Snow Glamours, or they might be something useful. Plus we still have the whiches that are hired if all else fails right?
I agree
I just wonder how he will do it 
Hmmmmm puts on a thinking cap
Okay, hmm, maybe a it's a new character? They have always tried to introduce new characters each episode it seems like.
I think it's maybe a possibility. I'll give they definitely know more then they can say.
Does he ever learn in the comics how to focus his sense of smell more particularly in fable town?
There is a reference to who I'm talking about. Bigby seeks revenge on him several times.
I have a strange feeling that it will go with something like this: Bigby is healed and returns to the Business Office with Snow. If you offered the job to both Flycatcher and Greenleaf, you will have to choose who to hire, because only one position can be filled (Greenleaf showing up in Fabletown may be easily explained with either: 1) you offering her a job in ep 3 OR 2) if you burned her tree, she will say she needs help because you've ruined her only 'job' OR 3) if you just left without offering a job or burning the tree, she will say she needs protection she mentioned in ep 3). After this, Bluebeard will show up and say, 'Snow, you let Crane go! You're no leader, I'm taking over because if you won't allow me to take over I will stop making donations!' or something like this. And then, I guess, the scene from the episode selection screen will happen:
"Bigby! You let that bastard Dum live? Do you have any idea how many people he may shoot again? You're fired!"
OR
"Bigby! You killed that bastard Dum? You have no respect for lives of others! You don't respect law! You're fired!"
I don't know, but I think the episode will start like this, and removing Bigby from the case will only strengthen his motivation to track down the killer