Theory About Luke, Nick, and Nick's Mom

edited May 2014 in The Walking Dead
I won't be insulted if you guys think I'm pulling for straws here, it's a pretty subtle detail and like I mention later, it could just be a recording fluke, but I recently rewatched the scene in the distillery and noticed something strange about Nick's flow of dialogue.

"I had to kill my mom. Sounds weird when I say it out loud, huh? Luke always used to push me. I never wanted to go into business with him...etc."

Does anyone else find it strange how in almost the same thought he says, "I had to kill my mom," he suddenly switches to, "Luke always used to push me"? How his train of thought transitions to what seem like two very different subjects? I didn't quite notice it at first, and when rewatching it, it seemed oddly nonsequitor to me and assumed maybe it was just a recording fluke, but then it occurred to me...

What if Luke pushed Nick into being the one to kill his mom? If it's for the sake of having a loved one do it, Pete was there too, wasn't he? So why Nick? My initial assumption when he told me about killing her was that--assuming it wasn't a decision that had to be made on the fly--he stepped up and volunteered to do it. But maybe that's not the case. Maybe Luke pressured Nick into feeling like he had to be the one to do it. Maybe he out-and-out told him he should do it, or more he just subtly implied it. We won't know for sure unless it's brought back up again.

It would be kind of consistent with Luke's character, he's pretty pushy and stubborn, especially with Nick, and tends to do what he believes is right and urges other people to follow suit, even if they disagree. So the theory disturbs me, but it also wouldn't be entirely surprising.

Here's a link to the scene, in case you guys aren't quite believing me when I say it's practically in the same breath: http(:)//youtu(.)be/fbsSPLLm30o?t=6m14s

I'm not entirely sure what to make of this, if there's any validity to it or what, but I'd be interested in hearing some feedback. It's okay if you don't agree it has any meaning to it, I just thought it was pretty weird and thought I'd share it to see what other people think.

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  • edited May 2014
    I highly doubt that since Uncle Pete was around during this scenario. Remember when Luke said that "Nick is not going to like this. especially..." and Pete cuts him off and says "You don't have to remind me of that boy." Uncle Pete has control over Luke since it seems like Luke listens to Pete and respects him so I doubt he would go against Pete's wishes. Uncle Pete was in charge of Nick while Luke just hung around for his friend Nick. After Pete's death and Luke's takeover is when Luke became "pushy" towards Nick. If anything we should question if Uncle Pete pushed him into doing it since he says "Sometimes you gotta play a role... even if it means people you love hate you for it" after the argument with Nick about Nick not wanting to shoot a buck so Pete did it instead.
  • Good point. But Nick does say "Luke always used to push me" so I don't agree that he only became pushy until after Pete died, I feel like it escalated.

    Maybe Pete did. Maybe he was scared to have to do it himself. That would have been something interesting to explore.

    I highly doubt that since Uncle Pete was around during this scenario. Remember when Luke said that "Nick is not going to like this. especial

  • You're right about the pushy part, I apologize for that. :P

    Pete probably brought up that same buck story to Nick when the incident happened and made him shoot her. That's probably why Pete got angry when Luke brought it up.
    skoothz posted: »

    Good point. But Nick does say "Luke always used to push me" so I don't agree that he only became pushy until after Pete died, I feel like it

  • edited May 2014
    The point of the "Luke always used to push me" line seemed to be to lead into the train of thought that concludes with "I wish I was like him. I wish I could just keep movin' all the time." So I think the connection between that line and the "I had to kill my mom" line isn't "Luke pushed me to kill my mom" but rather "Luke pushed me to keep moving forward after I killed my mom but I just can't move forward from something like that."
  • Oh, that actually makes more sense. Good point! Thank you! Wow, I've made some many posts analyzing his comment about struggling to move forward yet I couldn't even make the connection there. I guess that's what happens when you get bored of waiting and start scrutinizing dialogue a little TOO closely.
    DomeWing333 posted: »

    The point of the "Luke always used to push me" line seemed to be to lead into the train of thought that concludes with "I wish I was like hi

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