It's possible? It's funny though, how you're a troll and you're trying to use that phrase to get a backlash... as if it's supposed to insult something.
Not sure why you would say anything about Clem growing out of it if you didn't think it was something that people should/do grow out of. it kind of looked like you were saying it was a childish belief. If that wasn't your intent, it's all good, but I could easily see someone misconstruing what you were trying to say there.
Chill out paladin, I couldn't care less if Clem had any faith or not. I actually believe she does, if you'd bothered to read my post properly.
You're the one getting offended over nothing.
You might also consider that Clem's mother's last words to had no religious tone at all, just a simply personal and loving message to her daughter with no prayers added.
Clem seems to believe in some form of afterlife given what she says to Rebecca if Alvin is dead. This doesn't necessarily mean that she's "Christian" but I would guess that she probably does believe in some sort of divinity given where she was raised. But with what she's seen and the lack of religious reinforcement around her, I doubt she has much faith in God intervening to help her in her life.
I think the most religious line in the whole game to date is in season 1 episode 4 when Kenny is looking at the wall of walkers around Crawford and he says "Jesus Christ." Then Molly replies, "Well, actually it's just the opposite if you think about it."
Misuing yes,
Correctly use (if my interpretation is correct)
God is dead, and we killed him.
Basically, while Christianity su… morepposedly dictates values in Western society, other factors are far more prominent in modern western society. While the majority would call themselves Christian, the supposed values of the religion take a backseat to Enlightenment and (proto-) capitalist beliefs. He's (to my understanding) both the hypocracy of Christianity (IE the priests' as a sort of sublimation of the Will to Power) and the lack of adherence despite supposed belief in modern society.
Not sure why you would say anything about Clem growing out of it if you didn't think it was something that people should/do grow out of. it … morekind of looked like you were saying it was a childish belief. If that wasn't your intent, it's all good, but I could easily see someone misconstruing what you were trying to say there.
I have no clue what you're talking about. Why exactly are you telling me to chill out? There was nothing wrong with what I said nor how I said it. I was being completely reasonable with you.
This isn't about defending my beliefs, you're just being a complete douche about this. If you can't see how your post could be taken as offensive, then you're blind. It looked like you were implying that people of faith are ignorant/childish. Again, if that isn't the case, then it's all good. Come out and say that instead of being an asshole.
A deity isn't theologically necessary for an afterlife. Lots of spiritually-based religions have loose notions of supernatural forces and structures but no conscious entity ruling over it all.
A deity isn't theologically necessary for an afterlife. Lots of spiritually-based religions have loose notions of supernatural forces and structures but no conscious entity ruling over it all.
Yeah, realized after I said something stupid (I'm almost positive other English speaking countries say Oh my God and the such), after I said something stupid I said something a bit dickish. I'm not editing or retracting it because it's something I did say...
And you're right that these forums aren't the right place for a religious argument, I do believe that, when it comes to matters of politics and religion, one doesn't need to keep their mouth shut for the sake of politeness, but perhaps this is the inappropriate venue. (Admitting slight ticked that day, because I just wanted to go out to lunch and was harrassed by evangelicals...)
In any case, what I said was meant more to be a Nietzsche easter egg than an attack, I'm plenty happy for people who want to debate me on religion (once the PM system comes back online -_-; ), but in any case, it wasn't a rationale as much as a jab, and so it doesn't really serve anybody, religious or non-religious.
Well, in all major religions, god is not directly intervening in the course of this world, mostly only indirectly influencing things.
Also, phrases like "thanks god" are things we learn to say in certain situations, not to show our believe in god and you'd be an idiot if you tried to avoid them just because you are an atheist (makes you a fedora atheist).
None of the examples you give in the original post are truly religious acts. Just because somebody says "Oh My God" or "Thank God" or whatever doesn't mean they actually strongly believe in God or follow any organized religion. It is just something people say and most don't mean absolutely literally....it's why the really strict Christians get all bent out of shape over blasphemy whilst the majority of us don't even notice it in typical conversation...so many of us are just used to that being a phrase people say.
None of the examples you give in the original post are truly religious acts. Just because somebody says "Oh My God" or "Thank God" or whate… morever doesn't mean they actually strongly believe in God or follow any organized religion. It is just something people say and most don't mean absolutely literally....it's why the really strict Christians get all bent out of shape over blasphemy whilst the majority of us don't even notice it in typical conversation...so many of us are just used to that being a phrase people say.
That's my point. Even saying "Oh My God" doesn't mean you believe in it at all. Since the characters don't really talk about it specifically, we have no way of knowing their true religious views before or after the outbreak.
Well not everyone cares if there is proof or not, the last supper, Jesus ate fish. He's says no death to anything so he lied. I ain't giving myself to a cannibal.
Kenny claims to be a Christian.
How strong his faith is in God, is debatable.
Herschel on the tv show, just for example, was a Christian and continued to believe in God right to the end.
Religion is a sensitive issue, yes.
But then again, so is murder, stealing, etc.
I think that religion can be brought in to the game, but as a side note, and not as a main part of the story.
Like it has been done on the show.
That is very true.
"Oh my God', "Thank God,' etc, are pretty common expressions, regardless if a person is religiously affiliated or not.
And they can hardly be considered as hardcore evidence.
None of the examples you give in the original post are truly religious acts. Just because somebody says "Oh My God" or "Thank God" or whate… morever doesn't mean they actually strongly believe in God or follow any organized religion. It is just something people say and most don't mean absolutely literally....it's why the really strict Christians get all bent out of shape over blasphemy whilst the majority of us don't even notice it in typical conversation...so many of us are just used to that being a phrase people say.
I agree with what some people have said, saying things like 'God' and 'Jesus' doesn't necessarily mean that the person actively believes in God.
And I know I'll probably be bashed for this, but I just wanted to give a bit more of an opinion on how one could believe in God or their religion if something like this happened.
Me personally, I would still believe in God. I would always be asking why, of course, I wouldn't understand some of the things that happened, like so many other things in life, but in the end you can fume on it and let it bring you down, or you can move forward and keep on going.
I won't try and impose my views on anyone, its just my opinion that yes, I would still believe in God, even if bad things happen. Besides, most bad things that happen in my opinion come from the actions of man, not from God. Hence why we have free will. It would be a boring life if we didn't have the liberty to choose what we do, and if we believe in a Divine Being.
Again, I'll probably be bashed for my opinion, but I still stand by my views.
The closest thing we get to an actual discussion about religion in the zombie apocalypse is in 400 days when Leland is arguing with Dee. He chastises her about taking the Lord's name in vain and she remarks that she can't believe he's still religious given everything that's happened. He replies "My faith ain't something I wear like a fuckin' sweater. I don't just take it off when it gets uncomfortable." I'm not religious myself, but I have to admit, that was a good line.
I agree with what some people have said, saying things like 'God' and 'Jesus' doesn't necessarily mean that the person actively believes in … moreGod.
And I know I'll probably be bashed for this, but I just wanted to give a bit more of an opinion on how one could believe in God or their religion if something like this happened.
Me personally, I would still believe in God. I would always be asking why, of course, I wouldn't understand some of the things that happened, like so many other things in life, but in the end you can fume on it and let it bring you down, or you can move forward and keep on going.
I won't try and impose my views on anyone, its just my opinion that yes, I would still believe in God, even if bad things happen. Besides, most bad things that happen in my opinion come from the actions of man, not from God. Hence why we have free will. It would be a boring life if we didn't have the liberty to choose what we do, a… [view original content]
I'm glad to see people can be civilized about this sort of thing. All too often I feel like the slightest mention of God makes everyone start clawing each others throats out.
The closest thing we get to an actual discussion about religion in the zombie apocalypse is in 400 days when Leland is arguing with Dee. He … morechastises her about taking the Lord's name in vain and she remarks that she can't believe he's still religious given everything that's happened. He replies "My faith ain't something I wear like a fuckin' sweater. I don't just take it off when it gets uncomfortable." I'm not religious myself, but I have to admit, that was a good line.
I agree.
I to would continue to believe in God.
And I also believe that a lot of the bad things that happen in the world are due to man's greed and stupidity, and not because it's part of God's plan, or cause God is vindictive and vengeful.
I agree with what some people have said, saying things like 'God' and 'Jesus' doesn't necessarily mean that the person actively believes in … moreGod.
And I know I'll probably be bashed for this, but I just wanted to give a bit more of an opinion on how one could believe in God or their religion if something like this happened.
Me personally, I would still believe in God. I would always be asking why, of course, I wouldn't understand some of the things that happened, like so many other things in life, but in the end you can fume on it and let it bring you down, or you can move forward and keep on going.
I won't try and impose my views on anyone, its just my opinion that yes, I would still believe in God, even if bad things happen. Besides, most bad things that happen in my opinion come from the actions of man, not from God. Hence why we have free will. It would be a boring life if we didn't have the liberty to choose what we do, a… [view original content]
I agree with Leland's statement.
If claim to believe in God, than your actions need to be in harmony with your statement, even when it's difficult.
Otherwise it's hypocritical.
And Dee was frankly wrong to question Leland's faith.
On a personal note.
One thing I don't like are, people who don't back their words up with action, and those who's actions are not consistent with their words.
The closest thing we get to an actual discussion about religion in the zombie apocalypse is in 400 days when Leland is arguing with Dee. He … morechastises her about taking the Lord's name in vain and she remarks that she can't believe he's still religious given everything that's happened. He replies "My faith ain't something I wear like a fuckin' sweater. I don't just take it off when it gets uncomfortable." I'm not religious myself, but I have to admit, that was a good line.
I agree.
I to would continue to believe in God.
And I also believe that a lot of the bad things that happen in the world are due to man's greed and stupidity, and not because it's part of God's plan, or cause God is vindictive and vengeful.
Agreed. You can't help but respect a man who sticks with his beliefs even after the entire world's gone right down the toilet, and not in a hysterical "I'm denying the state of things around me" way either.
The closest thing we get to an actual discussion about religion in the zombie apocalypse is in 400 days when Leland is arguing with Dee. He … morechastises her about taking the Lord's name in vain and she remarks that she can't believe he's still religious given everything that's happened. He replies "My faith ain't something I wear like a fuckin' sweater. I don't just take it off when it gets uncomfortable." I'm not religious myself, but I have to admit, that was a good line.
Wait, what?! Weren't you just the fucker on the other thread (Any tattoos of the Walking Dead) who told us that if we got a tattoo, we were going to hell? I believe the word for this situation is "Hypocrisy".
As I said, "Oh my God." Some dude told me that I was disrespecting their religion. I'm an athiest and using the word 'God' in an expression doesnt mean I am making fun of 'him'. Some christians are sensitive as fuck and I do not know whether or not, I would go into the religion topic.
Wait, what?! Weren't you just the fucker on the other thread (Any tattoos of the Walking Dead) who told us that if we got a tattoo, we were going to hell? I believe the word for this situation is "Hypocrisy".
Well Robert Kirkman is an atheist, so he didn't make a big deal of religion in the comic books. I presume the game designers tried to keep to the general idea of his world and didn't include much about religion as well.
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I mean, UH YUP!.
This isn't about defending my beliefs, you're just being a complete douche about this. If you can't see how your post could be taken as offensive, then you're blind. It looked like you were implying that people of faith are ignorant/childish. Again, if that isn't the case, then it's all good. Come out and say that instead of being an asshole.
And you're right that these forums aren't the right place for a religious argument, I do believe that, when it comes to matters of politics and religion, one doesn't need to keep their mouth shut for the sake of politeness, but perhaps this is the inappropriate venue. (Admitting slight ticked that day, because I just wanted to go out to lunch and was harrassed by evangelicals...)
In any case, what I said was meant more to be a Nietzsche easter egg than an attack, I'm plenty happy for people who want to debate me on religion (once the PM system comes back online -_-; ), but in any case, it wasn't a rationale as much as a jab, and so it doesn't really serve anybody, religious or non-religious.
And as for the question, why would people stop believing in God on a walker APOCALYPSE? I
Also, phrases like "thanks god" are things we learn to say in certain situations, not to show our believe in god and you'd be an idiot if you tried to avoid them just because you are an atheist (makes you a fedora atheist).
How strong his faith is in God, is debatable.
Herschel on the tv show, just for example, was a Christian and continued to believe in God right to the end.
Religion is a sensitive issue, yes.
But then again, so is murder, stealing, etc.
I think that religion can be brought in to the game, but as a side note, and not as a main part of the story.
Like it has been done on the show.
"Oh my God', "Thank God,' etc, are pretty common expressions, regardless if a person is religiously affiliated or not.
And they can hardly be considered as hardcore evidence.
And I know I'll probably be bashed for this, but I just wanted to give a bit more of an opinion on how one could believe in God or their religion if something like this happened.
Me personally, I would still believe in God. I would always be asking why, of course, I wouldn't understand some of the things that happened, like so many other things in life, but in the end you can fume on it and let it bring you down, or you can move forward and keep on going.
I won't try and impose my views on anyone, its just my opinion that yes, I would still believe in God, even if bad things happen. Besides, most bad things that happen in my opinion come from the actions of man, not from God. Hence why we have free will. It would be a boring life if we didn't have the liberty to choose what we do, and if we believe in a Divine Being.
Again, I'll probably be bashed for my opinion, but I still stand by my views.
I to would continue to believe in God.
And I also believe that a lot of the bad things that happen in the world are due to man's greed and stupidity, and not because it's part of God's plan, or cause God is vindictive and vengeful.
If claim to believe in God, than your actions need to be in harmony with your statement, even when it's difficult.
Otherwise it's hypocritical.
And Dee was frankly wrong to question Leland's faith.
On a personal note.
One thing I don't like are, people who don't back their words up with action, and those who's actions are not consistent with their words.
Anytime.
I believe faith is not just something you put on and take off.
I believe it is more of a way of life.
But that's just me!