Do you think *spoiler* would be proud of Clem now?
after what She's been trough, Clem is so mature now, well at least if you make Clem to be the ultimate bamf like i do. in her age, she's just as capable as average adult, but at the cost of her innocence and childhood. Lee would be proud of her imo, all the things he taught her did not come into waste. although after that if Lee magically become alive again, i could see him giving her a huge hug, pat her on the head and told " you don't have to do this alone anymore "
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It depends how you play your Clem.
If your Clem was someone who just tried to be helpful and keep others alive, I think so.
If she was one who kept on insulting strangers, refused to be cooperative and enjoyed watching Carver's head get smashed in, then I don't think so.
I suppose it also depends on how you play your Lee. If he was an empathetic and helpful, kind man then he would be proud of the former Clem. If he was the type of person to smash Larry's head in or murder both St John brothers, he would be proud of the latter clem.
I dont think holding back Lilly makes Lee a bad person.. That was the only decision where I wanted to protect Clem and the group.. I spared the two brothers.. shot the suffering woman and played all the rest of the game as empathetic Lee in my original play through. And i play my Clem the same way. So I think my Lee would be proud of Clem.
It doesn't make him bad, but it shows that he doesn't think through his plans enough, as Larry was revivable and, when alive, could have said his last words to Lilly and made it so that Lilly didn't blame kenny for his death, which in turn led to Carley/Doug's death.
I'm not saying the latter lee is a bad person either. Just a very different one.
I didn't down vote your comment btw because i suspect you have down voted mine. Larry may have been revivable and even if he was he would of died anyway without his nitroglycerin pills, we see his mouth move if you picked to revive him.. was he reanimating or coming back? No one knows.. but i was not going to risk getting Clementine or the group killed in that meat locker.
Even in Lee's last words he says to Clementine that Larry was "going one way or another" And in advance Lilly was going to abandon us anyway
I didn't downvote yours
There's no 'might' have been revivable though: he WAS 100% revivable.
He moves his mouth ONLY if you push his chest. If you just sit there and don't push the chest, he doesn't move it.
Pressing someones chest does not speed up becoming a zombie, therefore he was still capable of coming to life once more.
Also, on the point of abandoning, remember Kenny tries to abandon Lilly to the bandits after she just tried to save all their lives.
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Why are you guys disliking this guy's comment? He's actually making good points.
I'm pretty sure Lee would be proud of her no matter what unless she'd do something really fucked up, far worse than any of the choices we've been given.
He would be proud, but concerned by some of her actions and mental state, especially if she watches Carver get brained. She's becoming comfortable with killing, a road Lee tried to keep her from traveling.
He was going one way or another, A guy his age with previous medical problems that just had a heart attack does not have a high chance of regaining consciousness...Just because he moved his mouth doesn't mean he is going to open his eyes and get up within 5 seconds.. His heart probably would of stopped again IMO.
And at least Kenny had some kind of respect or consideration for the group.. Lilly was his only problem.. Lilly Killed Carley in cold blood and took off in the RV something Kenny wouldn't do. And i think i made the right choice in siding with kenny because now look who has returned to help Clementine
He didn't have good chances, no, but the fact is he DID regain consciousness 100% in a playthrough where you help Lilly and push on his chest enough, so he wasn't at all unsaveable at the time the choice is made.
It probably would have, however he would have enough time to know that this was necessary, and could say goodbye to Lilly. She also wouldn't have to see the murder and so wouldn't be traumatised, and so wouldn't be nearly as cold as she sometimes was in episode 3.
Now on to the second paragraph:
1.) Kenny did not return in order to help clem, he returned by coincidence. You cannot say he is better than Lilyl because he happened to be somewhere she wasn't.
2.) Kenny killed Carver in cold blood, so clearly it IS something he'd do. Also, Kenny PLANNED his murder in that he knew he would die and he consciously did it for a minute or two. Lilly killed Carley in a blind moment of anger, and you can see the shock at what she's done on her face after she attempted to shoot.
They both also had good motives for their murders, but just turned out to be wrong. It just so happens that Lilly is only usually wrong whereas Kenny always is:
They are both trying to save the group. Kenny kills larry because he thinks he is dead. He is incorrect.
Lilly kills Carley because she thinks she was working against the group. She is incorrect.
Lilly kills Doug accidentally because she thought Ben was working against the group. She is correct.
You may argue killing ben wouldn't be good either. That's fair. However, the facts are that if she HAD been successful, then she would have saved the group from a hell of a lot of trouble in Crawford, and Brie wouldn't have died.
Before she gave them advice like 'don't let these people in' and 'don't trust the St Johns', and she was overruled all the time. Both of those turned out to be the correct overall choices. I can easily see why she snapped.
Carver was a murderer, he needed to die.
People always do it to me. It's because I don't think Kenny is god, and think a couple of his actions aren't great.
They saw me saying that in my opinion the salt lick event was a mistake, and they go 'WTFFFFFF KENNNY CANN'T MAKE A MISTAKE HE'S KENNNNNY LOL STACHE LOL CONFIRMED FOR SEASON 2 LOL XDXDXDXDXDXD'
I'm getting used to it, however.
I like Kenny, but I never said he was a "god"
He moved his mouth.. He doesn't regain consciousness.. he doesn't wake up.. he just twitches his mouth.. and I agree Kenny's timing was absolute crap to kill Larry.. but the Cannibals had the mans whole family so can you really blame him for his panic about getting out of the meat locker alive?
Who takes the blame for the walkie talkie and loses an eye to Cover for Clem? Kenny.. Killing Carver was justified and i think everyone who played agreed he had to die.. but I didn't want my clem to see that so i got her to walk away.
Kenny killing Larry was somewhat justified slightly.. but Lilly shooting innocent person through the forehead for suspicion is morally horrible.. and Ben was guilty but i dont think he would of deserved to die by lilly's hands either.
If you played Clementine right so far he would be very proud. One thing to keep in consideration is that if you let Clem stay and watch Kenny's introduction between his crowbar and Carver's face, Lee will most definitely frown at what Kenny has become and at Clem for staying there.
Lee, the guardian angel, always protecting Clementine. ; (
Kenny is technically a murderer too.
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I know you don't, it's more that quite a few others imply he's infallible, and they're the ones who dislike my comments.
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Kenny was paranoid and was willing to risk anything to protect his family, thus he smashed Larry's head in.
Are you trying to say that Kenny is as "evil" as Carver?
That depends on how your Lee was in S1. and how your Clem is behaving in S2.
I think my Lee would be proud of my Clem. would be happy to have made her a human-being able to survive in this world. but at the same time, he would be worried about her mental and physical safety and the many things she has faced and will face on her own. things he can no longer protect her directly.
But, you both need to remember that if they didn't do something quick, the St. John's could have walked in at any second and shit would have hit the fan.
Oh man think about it. If there's going to be a dream sequence, Lee's dream version response to you differently depending on how you played as Clementine. Like; if you watched Carver's death he will say "Is that what I taught you? Watching someone's skull get bashed makes you tough and mature?!" I doubt but it will be awesome if that happens. And we can see if OUR Lee is proud of her or not.
Okay, off topic, but it says you're banned for me, but you are posting new stuff everyday. The fuck is wrong?