Jurgen on Twilight - What are his thoughts?
Okay, TTG Staff. Get your writing team over here now before we start hypothetically putting words into Jurgen's maw.[/emptythreat]
Ever since the damn move came out, I have had the unfortunate pleasure of being a witness of sorts to many Twilight debates about vampire lore. Things like how you can't reinvent vampires or change things and other things. My personal opinion on the matter has shifted over the time, and now I currently don't care. It's a creative property, and if people are willing to buy into it (which some are), then more power to you.
But I can't help but wonder what Sam & Max's own vampire would think about it. How do you think he would react to the whole franchise?
Ever since the damn move came out, I have had the unfortunate pleasure of being a witness of sorts to many Twilight debates about vampire lore. Things like how you can't reinvent vampires or change things and other things. My personal opinion on the matter has shifted over the time, and now I currently don't care. It's a creative property, and if people are willing to buy into it (which some are), then more power to you.
But I can't help but wonder what Sam & Max's own vampire would think about it. How do you think he would react to the whole franchise?
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I don't know what Jurgen would think about it, though. Probably that they make a mockery of the darkness and despair of a vampire's life with their romance and their sparkles.
Someone get William to record this line in character. I bet I'd get a really big laugh from hearing Jurgen say "sparkles."
I'd also like to point out that vampires aren't all romance and sparkles in this series. They're now much tougher to kill (being ripped to shreds and burned, as opposed to a simple stake through the heart), and all of them, even Edward, have a pretty gruesome past. There's quite a bit more blood-sucking in this series than people give it credit for.
And that's all I have to say on that.
I greatly disliked everything about it...
And now I'm imagining the Monster being really into the books and Jurgen being irritated and sulky about it. It's pretty funny.
Metalkombat, most people with a problem with Twilight dislike the books for other reasons. In addition to the flat characterisation and unoriginality things Zootch mentioned in the Xanga post he linked to, their romance is quite unhealthy, with Edward being very very controlling and Bella very very passive. The imprinting thing that werewolves do is kind of creepy, and the characters irritate some people.
And about the gore, I won't dispute you, but read Breaking Dawn. The birth scene there is extremely gory, especially for an author who doesn't watch R rated movies and is writing for teenage girls. Speaking of Breaking Dawn, the fact that
That said, I can't wait to see how they handle the 4th film, if they ever make it, and what age rating it gets.
I like what Moonlight said about how the steaking a vampire's heart only paralyzed them and didn't actually kill them. Of course, this is coming from the TV series that says contemporary vampires no longer sleep in coffins but in giant freezers AND have an endurance to sunlight before suffering from extreme dehydration...
I have to wonder how many people who posted on this thread have read the books? It's pretty obvious that some of you have, but the majority of guys dislike the books without ever having read any of them. If you haven't read the books, don't be idiots and put them down just for fun.
That being said, I'm sure that Jurgen would be a welcome and hilarious addition to any vampire-centric debate.
And now it makes sense to me.
I mean, the characters are such Mary Sues and most of the book is Bella gushing about how perfect Edward is and how overprotective he is.
A minor annoyance: How she couldn't find a better adjective than "sparkly" and "dazzling" for vamps in sunlight
I didn't everyone gushing over his actor when he was Cedric Diggory!
That is my one problem about this series, which actually kind of turns out to be 2 problems.
Girls who've read it and love it can not shut up about it. They're either talking about the books constantly, or talking about Edward Cullen constantly. I agree, Daxxglax; I didn't hear anyone mention how incredibly, unavoidably sexy
Robert Pattinson was when he played Cedric in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.
I've read (most of) the series, and I thought it was great, but I don't find it necessary to gush about it 24/7. The only time I ever really talk about it is when guys needlessly give it a bad stereotype without having read it.
But no, in all seriousness... I tried to read the first chapter of twilight on Amazon just to see what the fuss was about. OH GOD it's horrid. Someone needs to explain to Meyers a couple of important details about writing, characters NEED DEPTH AND MOTIVATION DAMNIT!
They have neither of these things, they're flat cardboard cutouts. It's lame.
Does no-one else find the "I like to watch you sleep" thing creepy as all hell? I mean, you wake up, some guy is standing over your bed.. I don't care how hot he is, he's broken into your house to watch you sleep! that's restraining order, NOT ROMANTIC!
I'm writing a romance story on and off at the moment actually and to prepare for this, read a few articles on how to write modern romance. Oh it's hilarious to see how many of the cardinal rules have been broken by Twilight. Instant falling in love without any chemistry, over possessive male and female lead being totally dependent on him, damsel in distress syndrome... the list goes on. What is this teaching young girls about relationships? that women need men to survive? that it's ok if he's a shallow, over protective jerk who wont let you go out with your friends so long as he's pretty? Riiight.
The less said about Renesmee and the c section with teeth the better I think. What WAS the author smoking?
Maybe i'll ask the ones in town heh.
Max: "He's not. I'm taking this arts and crafts seminar and he "volunteered"."
Sam: "Really? where'd you get all that glitter?"
Max: "Oh, I couldn't find any, so I improvised."
Jurgen: "EVERY INCH ON MEIN BODY STINGS!!!"
Lol same here! I read all four (before the movie came out) and I loved them, but I'm not a crazy screaming fangirl. I just like em is all.
And it's not all fifteen-year-old girls reading them. College girls love them too
That was pretty much awesome
Huh. Turns out I'm not the only one on these forums who likes this series.
If we work together, we can create an unstoppable force of awesomeness!
Deal. I've always wondered what being an unstoppable force would be like... it must feel like being a bulldozer with nothing but fluffy cotton balls in front of you. I'm already convincing people to read Twilight; I suppose this would be a great added bonus.
If that doesn't work, I can always opt out for the Green Lantern Corps. I just need to convince the Guardians of the Universe to send a Power Ring, and I'll be all set.
That's quite inconvenient. Well, if the movie's bad enough when it comes out I'm sure that I'll loathe the Green Lantern Corps.
Join the club. Actually, there isn't a club.... yet. I think I'll have to start one. Anyone who reads this post and enjoys Twilight, just look up the Twilight Fan Club and feel free to join!
I'll be there like shareware!
I LOVE the books. But, I don't gush about them constantly. And I'm not really sure WHY I like them either. They're like... hypnotic or something. When I read the first one, it took me a couple tries to get into it, but once I did, I couldn't put them down.
That said, I read the first chapter of Twilight and wanted to stove Meyer's head in with a brick so yeah.... I'm gonna avoid teen fiction heh.
Only Jurgen has the better hair.
Oh wait, I'm thinking of Jane Goodall.
And, I really didn't like the first three chapters. Stephenie Meyer even said, those were probably the worst ones in the book. You have to get to the forth chapter before it really gets good, trust me.
Took me a few tries before I got into it.
Not in love love, you know, it was more a "friends with benefits" kind of thing. Also, I enjoy reading Jane Austen's works,but that does not mean I would want to live them. Besides the whole lack of indoor plumbing thing, not a single Austen hero is described as wearing glasses, and I don't think they had even heard of video games. I could never love a man who didn't cry when Aerith died.
Fairy tales, I mean, really! Don't you people have anything smarter to read OR watch???
In fact, I do.
*holds up copy of On Writing by Stephen King*
*alternatively, holds up The Dark Tower Series, also by Stephen King*
*if you don't think either of those are worthy of "smart(er)", I hold up a Webster's Unabridged Dictionary*