Was Rebecca's and Carvers "Happy Time" Consensual?
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Alright so i'm unsure if Rebecca and Carver making love was physically forced upon her or she agreed to it, at one point Rebecca says its not Alvins baby and if he found out she'd kill her which shows that she blames herself for it, however before Carver died he looked at Rebecca and said "The fuck are you looking at bitch?, don't act like you didn't love every second of it" which seems to imply that he forced it upon her, what do you guys think?
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Honestly, and unfortunately for Alvin, I kind of get the sense that Rebecca was in on it, and only regretted it after the case.
All the evidence seems to point to it being consensual. If Rebecca was indeed raped by Carver, I imagine she'd have a more hateful or fearful reaction to the man's presence once they're face to face.
Carver's comment that you mention can be easily written off as him being defiant and spiteful to the last and wanting to piss off as many people as possible since his death was imminent.
It sounds like it was consensual, but who knows. That may have been one of the reasons why they left?
The fact we're questioning this is kind of a problem in and of itself, honestly. When it comes to fictionalized sexual assault, whether or not there was consent really shouldn't be vague.
My assumption is that she was, given how much she clearly hated him and wanted to stay and watch while he was beaten to death. And it's just one other reasons for her and the others to want to escape. Besides what other reasons they themselves had, I'm sure the guys who escaped with her and Alvin don't exactly support sexual assault either, and if anything it would make Carlos even more protective of Sarah. So that's just my thought.
It would be nice if Telltale gave an official word on this, though.
No idea, I doubt it was physically forced, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was consensual. I imagine that Carver is the kind of guy who could use threats and coercion to get what he wants.
I think she was pressured into it, or he'd kill Alvin. That's how I looked at it.
There was also unused audio where Carver says "Don't you fucking look at me like that, you wanted it just as much as I did"
Its the second line in so i didnt feel like putting a skip button, its like 2 seconds in the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLRHRqizaM
If it was rape why would Rebecca not be straight forward with Alvin?
Why is this? Fiction is meant to mirror real life and in real life, issues of consent in instances of possible sexual assault are at times vague, especially to outside observers. This is especially true if the coercive tool used by the perpetrator is something other than physical force. Carver had a great deal of power and authority over the people of his "flock." If he demanded sex from one of them, there's a great deal of pressure on that person to say yes because of the amount of control that he has over the well-being of that person and their loved ones. Is it still consent then? Things aren't always so black and white.
I don't know, rebecca obviously feels guilty for it so it wouldn't be forced upon her. Maybe Carver tricked her into it? Who knows. I'm pretty sure Rebecca isn't going to be telling Clementine about her happy time with carver anytime soon. ._.
I'm pretty sure it was consensual.
The only thing that makes me question if it was rape is why Rebecca wouldn't have told Alvin in the beginning. The other men in the group seemed to know what happened either way yet continued to keep it a secret from him. It was not a mistake on Rebecca's part but a horrific action that Carver took against her. Alvin is a kind man who would not have blamed her for something done to her. So why was she scared of him being angry?
Plus, when you question why Carver would still be chasing after the group, Luke says that they'll all done things that they regret. Again, it was Carver's offense, not Rebecca's, so why would she be regretful? But I don't know. You can argue both ways for this topic. It's too vague to have a conclusive, definitive answer. She could have been forced or intimidated into doing it, which would explain all of this and Carver's creepy lines.
Sometimes rape victims can feel like they are at fault for what happened, she also could have been given a choice to have sex with him or get beaten and she chose sex so maybe she regrets picking that choice