Carver. The Crooked Man's entire logic behind the events were absolutely flawed and I never understood how he thought he'd just talk his way out of things
Carver by far. Crooked man is not a person who kills people in episode 5 the crooked man did not shoot Bigby when he had the chance. Carver killed Reggie, Carver will kill anyone how messes up or to mess with him, Crooked man does not kill he send people to kill them he cant even kill Bigby .
crooked man easilly, he is much more complex than carver, plus carver's morals are absurdly twisted, the fact carver dosen't see himself as a villian is shocking, and quite unrealistic, i don't think the crooked really bothers to justify his actions to himself, so in a way he has more logical morals
crooked man easilly, he is much more complex than carver, plus carver's morals are absurdly twisted, the fact carver dosen't see himself as … morea villian is shocking, and quite unrealistic, i don't think the crooked really bothers to justify his actions to himself, so in a way he has more logical morals
That was flawed? Eh, you can justify it all by saying that Carver is a psycopath, but hell, the Crooked Man's reasons for killing someone are better than "Nu Berrys in tim, yu weak, me strong, yu dai." Carver was an orgy of mindless brutality that I guess served his purpose well enough.
Carver. The Crooked Man's entire logic behind the events were absolutely flawed and I never understood how he thought he'd just talk his way out of things
crooked man easilly, he is much more complex than carver, plus carver's morals are absurdly twisted, the fact carver dosen't see himself as … morea villian is shocking, and quite unrealistic, i don't think the crooked really bothers to justify his actions to himself, so in a way he has more logical morals
The way The Crooked Man thought of things backfired on him. Hand Georgie over to Bigby? lol no. Talk your way out of a court case that completely aims all at you? lmao, pls.
Carver on the other hand, thought of things in an evil way. And that's what villains do, they think evilly.
I'd say Carver, The Crooked Man was one of those typical cliche type villains where they sit back and order others to do the dirty work for them. Carver is brutal and ruthless and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, I like that.
Carver by a long shot.
The way The Crooked Man thought of things backfired on him. Hand Georgie over to Bigby? lol no. Talk your way out … moreof a court case that completely aims all at you? lmao, pls.
Carver on the other hand, thought of things in an evil way. And that's what villains do, they think evilly.
The crooked guy was the low point of S1 IMO, I thought it was pretty weak, when I noticed the car outside the hotel I thought "you have to be joking" the whole thing just didnt make much sence imo and was pretty far fetched..
Carver was a lot more realistic and believable, so IMHO carver hands down..
My own choice tho based on hasle he caused the group was BEN.... I still shiver when I see him or hear his name lol.. for whome the bell tolls benny...
Carver by far. Crooked man is not a person who kills people in episode 5 the crooked man did not shoot Bigby when he had the chance. Carver … morekilled Reggie, Carver will kill anyone how messes up or to mess with him, Crooked man does not kill he send people to kill them he cant even kill Bigby .
The crooked guy was the low point of S1 IMO, I thought it was pretty weak, when I noticed the car outside the hotel I thought "you have to b… moree joking" the whole thing just didnt make much sence imo and was pretty far fetched..
Carver was a lot more realistic and believable, so IMHO carver hands down..
My own choice tho based on hasle he caused the group was BEN.... I still shiver when I see him or hear his name lol.. for whome the bell tolls benny...
The crooked guy was the low point of S1 IMO, I thought it was pretty weak, when I noticed the car outside the hotel I thought "you have to b… moree joking" the whole thing just didnt make much sence imo and was pretty far fetched..
Carver was a lot more realistic and believable, so IMHO carver hands down..
My own choice tho based on hasle he caused the group was BEN.... I still shiver when I see him or hear his name lol.. for whome the bell tolls benny...
I hoped that Carver would turn out to be more like the Crooked Man in ep3 of TWD, Crooked Man was way better. If it wasn't for Nerissas/Faiths testimony (which was a lie) he would have probably talked his way out of the trial.
I think the Crooked Man wins in terms of complexity and persuasiveness, although Carver wins in terms of brutality and mysteriousness (Just walked into the cabin all creepy like, wanted to throw something at him)
In terms of who I liked better, I really can't decide. They were both really good antagonists.
The Crooked Man. Carver would've been an excellent villain but he was pretty much a missed opportunity with how underused he was in Episode 3 and killed off really, really early. And he was ridiculously scary in Episode 2 the way he just waltz on into the cabin. I wasn't scared of him at all in Episode 3 though.
I think the Crooked Man is more interesting because you never have any actually physical evidence to accuse him. It's all based on testimonies and what people know, but Bigby (at least from the playthrough I saw) never had any actual photos or papers to prove anything. The fact that the Crooked Man never got his hands dirty and that in a real trail he would actually get away with it makes him all the more threatening.
I know what you mean. In fact I was more irked by his presence in Ep2 than I was with the Stranger. He was very intimidating that episode. But all that atmosphere he had vanished with the wind by Ep3.
The Crooked Man. Carver would've been an excellent villain but he was pretty much a missed opportunity with how underused he was in Episode … more3 and killed off really, really early. And he was ridiculously scary in Episode 2 the way he just waltz on into the cabin. I wasn't scared of him at all in Episode 3 though.
The crooked man. He thought it out. Think about it, if it wasn't for the witness (who ended up lying about it) he would have walked away untouched. In real life he would walk out of the trial, clean. He thought everything threw and made sure nothign pointed towards him.
Crooked Man. If Carver wasn't drastically changed into a psycho path without any development at all, i'd pick him. His performance as a villain in 203 was poorly written. Still a good episode.
I know what you mean. In fact I was more irked by his presence in Ep2 than I was with the Stranger. He was very intimidating that episode. But all that atmosphere he had vanished with the wind by Ep3.
Crooked Man. If Carver wasn't drastically changed into a psycho path without any development at all, i'd pick him. His performance as a villain in 203 was poorly written. Still a good episode.
The Crooked Man, he was feared, even when he was harmless. He seemed clever and well liked, even though he took advantage of his people.
Carver was just a brute. At first, I found him interesting, but then, you know. He was feared because he would kill when he was pissed.
But they have great voices.
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Carver. The Crooked Man's entire logic behind the events were absolutely flawed and I never understood how he thought he'd just talk his way out of things
Carver by far. Crooked man is not a person who kills people in episode 5 the crooked man did not shoot Bigby when he had the chance. Carver killed Reggie, Carver will kill anyone how messes up or to mess with him, Crooked man does not kill he send people to kill them he cant even kill Bigby .
I thought the Crooked Man was cooler.
crooked man easilly, he is much more complex than carver, plus carver's morals are absurdly twisted, the fact carver dosen't see himself as a villian is shocking, and quite unrealistic, i don't think the crooked really bothers to justify his actions to himself, so in a way he has more logical morals
Violence goes to Carver
Complexity goes to The Crooked Man
That was flawed? Eh, you can justify it all by saying that Carver is a psycopath, but hell, the Crooked Man's reasons for killing someone are better than "Nu Berrys in tim, yu weak, me strong, yu dai." Carver was an orgy of mindless brutality that I guess served his purpose well enough.
The Crooked Man. A more interesting villain.
of course not. did the governor saw himself as a villain??? hell has any villain seen themselves as villians???
ah, but carver and the governors saw themselvs as heroes, crooked man obviously didn't, he knows he isn't exactly doing "god's work" here
Carver by a long shot.
The way The Crooked Man thought of things backfired on him. Hand Georgie over to Bigby? lol no. Talk your way out of a court case that completely aims all at you? lmao, pls.
Carver on the other hand, thought of things in an evil way. And that's what villains do, they think evilly.
I'd say Carver, The Crooked Man was one of those typical cliche type villains where they sit back and order others to do the dirty work for them. Carver is brutal and ruthless and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, I like that.
lol the CM was all like "I bet I can talk my way out of this trial!"
Then my Bigby threw him down the well...
in the end crooked man is cooler and carver is freezer
"lel ima tlk mi way out"
-dies-
lol I wish I was freezer.
lol
The crooked guy was the low point of S1 IMO, I thought it was pretty weak, when I noticed the car outside the hotel I thought "you have to be joking" the whole thing just didnt make much sence imo and was pretty far fetched..
Carver was a lot more realistic and believable, so IMHO carver hands down..
My own choice tho based on hasle he caused the group was BEN.... I still shiver when I see him or hear his name lol.. for whome the bell tolls benny...
Just because Carver do the dirty work himself, that doesn't mean he's a better villain.
Wait what?
If you are referring to the ben comment it was a joke/bit of fun ..:P
Crooked Guy is from the Wolf Among Us.
The Stranger is the guy who stole Clementine.
I hoped that Carver would turn out to be more like the Crooked Man in ep3 of TWD, Crooked Man was way better. If it wasn't for Nerissas/Faiths testimony (which was a lie) he would have probably talked his way out of the trial.
I always thought that Carver was more complex too, since episode 3
The Crooked Man saw himself only as a business man trying to make a change
Crooked man, he seems to be more manipulative.
Carver isn't the first of his kind when it comes to zombie apocalypse games
O...M...G
Have I just done that in public?....... the shame.lol
Right im going to crawl into a small dark corner and shoot myself now byeeeeeeeeee..
There is no need to discuss this . Absolutely The Crooked Man.
I think the Crooked Man wins in terms of complexity and persuasiveness, although Carver wins in terms of brutality and mysteriousness (Just walked into the cabin all creepy like, wanted to throw something at him)
In terms of who I liked better, I really can't decide. They were both really good antagonists.
I enjoyed the Crooked Man the most. In fact I hated him much more than Carver.
I say The Crooked Man was definitely cooler. Carver was just another boring, cliche, "GRR, VILLAIN SMASH. VILLAIN KILL." type of villain. Yawn.
The Crooked Man. Carver would've been an excellent villain but he was pretty much a missed opportunity with how underused he was in Episode 3 and killed off really, really early. And he was ridiculously scary in Episode 2 the way he just waltz on into the cabin. I wasn't scared of him at all in Episode 3 though.
I think the Crooked Man is more interesting because you never have any actually physical evidence to accuse him. It's all based on testimonies and what people know, but Bigby (at least from the playthrough I saw) never had any actual photos or papers to prove anything. The fact that the Crooked Man never got his hands dirty and that in a real trail he would actually get away with it makes him all the more threatening.
I know what you mean. In fact I was more irked by his presence in Ep2 than I was with the Stranger. He was very intimidating that episode. But all that atmosphere he had vanished with the wind by Ep3.
The crooked man. He thought it out. Think about it, if it wasn't for the witness (who ended up lying about it) he would have walked away untouched. In real life he would walk out of the trial, clean. He thought everything threw and made sure nothign pointed towards him.
Crooked Man. If Carver wasn't drastically changed into a psycho path without any development at all, i'd pick him. His performance as a villain in 203 was poorly written. Still a good episode.
Oh, neither was Crooky in his genre, but I still consider him better.
I wasn't even afraid to say; "I wish Kenny had killed you." directly to his face.
Michael Madsen's performance as him was excellent though.
Exactly my thoughts. Carver had the potential to be the best villain in the series if his characterisation wasn't butchered in 203.
The Crooked Man, he was feared, even when he was harmless. He seemed clever and well liked, even though he took advantage of his people.
Carver was just a brute. At first, I found him interesting, but then, you know. He was feared because he would kill when he was pissed.
But they have great voices.