Episode 4: Amid the Dissatisfaction
This episode was great and emotionally effective, don't get me wrong. Unfortunately, I have some problems. First of all, Nick was not given a SINGLE line of dialogue or explanation. All he did was look for help unsuccessfully and die. One of the most developed characters pushed aside like nothing and it leaves almost no emotional impact when you see him because he doesn't get a death scene to feel bad for him, like Ben or Duck. Also it felt pointless when you save Sarah and give this big emotional speech, just for her to die LATER IN THE EPISODE ANYWAYS. I would have been more pleased if Sarah at least would live to episode 5 if you tried to save her on the deck. (At least she got a death scene) Finally, the decision between staying a day or staying for a couple days changes basically nothing. That's just my opinion on this episode.
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Also, no Eddie. No Christa. No nothing that I wanted.
Also, horny Jane and Luke. Wrong time, guys.
I felt Nick had no further purpose though.
Sarah may have died for that emotional purpose though.
This series is going down the fucking drain.
I don't pay $4.99 for a interactive fucking movie. I pay that money for a motherfucking game. Telltale needs to do some sort of purging of these bullshit extra games and focus on each of them one at a time.
If they keep this up, I'm sorry, Telltale, but you ain't getting my money anymore.
Umm you do know it is supposed to be an interactive movie/game.
Right?
Ok.
I kinda feel like Telltale is possibly planning a S3, cuz the buildup for episode 5 doesn't seem to suggest that it's gonna end the entire series.
Season 1 was more like a game than actual movies. Season 1 was an adventure game with zombies in it. It wasn't so fucking linear, there were actually SOME choices that mattered, and I felt more connected to the characters than Season 2, except for Sarah and Nick because I empathize with their experiences.
For Season 2, it was like Telltale just said 'fuck good story, fuck emotional, we gon get money' and they come up with complete bullshit instead of something even remotely interesting.
Yes.And Eddie didn't appear.That made me sad
I guess I did like season 1 better
I think they wanted to do something different maybe.
Welp. We see the results here before all of us
If it does mean Season 3, Clementine should still be the main character
Yeah, otherwise most people's interest would probably immediately die out.
I'd be without a job
It's with all the episodes 4. After all the tension, epicness and all the rest that was in Episode 3 they want to leave the rest for Episode 5, that count for TWD S1 and S2 as well as TWAU. So I think Episode 5 will be even better than Episode 3.
At the scenes where Molly/Jane left the same music was playing
Well the episode did one thing right: the complete bleakness of the world. I honestly don't think I've ever felt more helpless in any episode yet. None of the choices I made or people I saved really mattered.
Wow really???? You people are fucking idiots. Really?? No eddie so you dont like the episode, who was eddie that made him so epic ??? Just a stupid character from a dlc. This is by far one of the best episodes and they gave you fucking hubs what you all bitched and cried and your not pleased. Lol Jesus poor TT
he was kinda on the slide tho hahaha
He was probably a red herring, but we kind of expected him to be there because of the banner.
And secondly, none of our choices matter at all. If I save Sarah, she dies anyway. If I save Nick, he dies anyway. And they both turn into mutes because Telltale is too fucking lazy to give them dialogue unlike Season 1, when YOU HAD dialogue for Ben if you saved him.
I really want to like Season 2, but Telltale's writers are to blame here for their incompetence and amateurish writing.
he wasn't on the banner, I seen that and it just a random guy. "but the beard is like eddie" so the twau used that puppet looking motherfucker everywhere, the ginger guy, its probably a reused model. and he wasn't really highlighted so again Idk why people make shit up in their minds.
and yes I see that, the choices aren't that meaningful, but me I don't care so much; I am alone in this, I play and see this game cuz its awesome in its core story. I was watching this and was on the edge of my damn seat, intense. yes I get annoyed those determined characters don't talk, but again it aint the same writers anymore and the whole dynamic has changed.
now I more pissed at people who are shitting on the episode, more mainly, because there wasn't eddie, a fucking stupid charater I may add, or people that are just sayin that is the worst thing that has ever happened. that's unfair to TT they did an awesome job in this episode and their own "fans" are wanting to crucify them. people bitched to the max that they wanted hubs, well you got hubs. and don't say that they were shit hubs there were stupid shit hubs in season one too. and im pretty sure TT said when they announced the new season that there were going to be much different but not so much that it completely change the whole game. but im tired of hearing people bitch. don't like it, don't play it simple or just bitch all the time. season its not done, we might see eddie with that Russian group, we might not. we might see christa, we might not ( but not seeing christa, or completely knowing her real fate would be a big mistake for TT), everyone was shitting at twau after ep 4 look what they pulled off. and last if you hate it so much you go to TT and do it yourself or go do your own version, see of it is that easy
No one is safe in TWD Universe!!!
I know you wanted Nick to live but life is random and sh4t happens and he is dead! That's how it goes. No one is spared or safe.
Agree with Nick, but I thought the way they done Sarah's death was actually rather affective. When I was insisting Jane to go down there to save Sarah I thought for a second she was gonna die. Had my heart skip.
At least this episode has that one part where you're required to think about how to distract the walkers. I think it's called a.... puzzle? Yeah, have you guys heard about that? I heard it's very common in point and click games.
I can understand being pissed at the characters for that, but pissed at the writers?
Nick's death is the only thing that I can really complain about everything else was good.
Writers write the characters
All I could do when I saw Nick was laugh. I was just disappointed that he had no point at all in episode 3 or 4.
Episode was better than 3. No doubt. I was kinda down that they didn't have Eddie. Even though he was on the slide. reason why we all like Eddie is he is a kind hearted bro. I mean...people would hate him for the choices they made in 400 days. But he was probably the only bro alive we know that isnt dead yet. Alright stopping with the Eddie stuff. Jane did the exact same thing that Molly did. Nick hardly got a line beside "Ahh!" when he got shot by the unknown hardware store survivor. But hey....this episode was better than number 3. Hope telltale keeps up the good work.
I liked the episode except for Nick's role in it... I mean, if he really has to die, let him die with a heartbreaking scene at least...
The thought of playing as an adult in S3 gets me reeling in like a fish.
Yeah, but that's like being mad at JK Rowling for making Voldemort evil. What's wrong with writing a protagonistic character? What's wrong with making bad things happen in a story?
Ok I loved the episode and think its the best yet.....but you are totally right Nick should have got a better send off
Oh, I'm not pissed at the writers or the characters for that. In fact, it was hilarious. I'm just pointing out that it was the wrong time for them to get all BOWCHICKABOWWOW when Rebecca was in labour and there were walkers everywhere.
Ah, okay. The way you worded it looked like you meant that you hated the writers for discluding Eddie and Christa, AND you hated them for making Jane and Luke have sex.
yet not everybody in this world is reasonable, luke has been running around a long time alone in this group, dont tell me you wouldnt if you get the chance.
i liked the writing, i didnt save sarah in the trailer, that set the tone right for the rest of the episode, especially for my clem chosing the bang at the end.
Ya season 2 isn't as good as 1 but it's not awful. I hated episode 1 and I didn't really enjoy episode 4 but 2 was awesome and 3 was pretty good. It's different, that's for sure. It's just that Telltale seems to be getting lazy on determinants and even on choices. Nick's death sucked, however they handled Alvin's two options pretty well. Sarah dying two different ways in the same episode EVEN when you choose to try and help her instead of someone else is weak though. Hoping that every choice in the whole season will affect who dies in the firefight, and then episode 4 will be somewhat forgiven. Come on Telltale, bring back some of that season 2 episode 2 good stuff!
As much as I adored this episode, they fucked up alot too.
Nick didn't matter.
I really really really really wanted Sarah to live. Make Jane angry at us, sure, or something negative happen. But as long as Sarah lived. Never got to give her a hug.
That and although I loved the hub to no end, it was handled differently. Hell, even Jane had to be walked up to four times just to get dialogue out of her when we could've done it in one long string. You know, like in the old days of Season 1. And everyone else only had 'bout one line of dialogue.
I'm liking the vibes Mike puts off, and becoming a bit more appreciative of Bonnie.
But as I see it, Kenny's got nothing to live for, Mike just wants to keep going, Bonnie's going to get pissed over Luke (In hindsight I find this hilarious when you consider what she did with Leland), and Luke's gonna snap.
I'll miss Rebecca though. Even if I did threaten to reveal her affair when we first met...she did become nicer to me. And that's all I ever wanted from anyone.
From someone that had hated Ep.3, and has Nick as the most favoured character from the Cabin Crew, I found myself positively affected by this episode. It changed my outlook on not just Telltale's TWD, but the whole Zombie Apocalypse in general. Everyone despises how abrupt and immediate the events were, and how out-of-control the player choices were throughout the season. That's kinda how it would be in the Zombie Apocalypse. Everything would be disastrously instantaneous. One group of survivors meets another, and they're both armed, what could have been months of surviving could end in seconds due to a failure to communicate. A zombie could just sneak into your tent and eat you while you sleep, with no heroic sacrifice or any big goodbye.
It's not about what you choose in the narrative, but more about how you react in the narrative. The first season was all about this; but, now we've got expectations to judge the second season on, and now we start getting bothered. Not every movie is going to win an oscar. Not every song in an album is going to be to your liking. Not every episode, or game made by Telltale is going to live up to their potential. At least it's not Jurassic Park levels of bad.