One criticism I don't get...
I've seen several people calling the episode bad and using Eddie not appearing as an example. I really don't understand this because the episode tile doesn't guarantee anything and he could've been used to hype it up. Hell it looked like Carley and Doug were in the the tile too. I'm just saying that lately the community seems way too harsh on the episodes. I'm not saying that a majority of your criticisms aren't reasonable or legitimate, but come on. Some things are borderline nitpicking. I for one think Episode 4 is the best so far besides Episode 2 of course.
P.S. I know most of us are upset about Nick but when I think back to the way they handled Carley/Doug, I wasn't pleased there either and from what I remember there was an uproar about it. Determinant characters never end up where you want them to. Let's face it. Let's just try to keep a positive attitude and hope Episode 5 is great.
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The big problem about Eddie not being there but being on the title screen is that it's almost like false advertising, you know? It kinda feels like Telltale kind of tricked us in a way, I guess...
Yeah I can understand that but we all thought Rebecca was going to give birth in episode three because of the title screen. And plus, the screens are made months upon months in advance so for all we know, the writing may have changed since production started. The Wolf Among Us certainly changed a lot. I mean I'm not disagreeing, I wish Eddie and the crew appeared but they might be saving them for something else. Maybe even season three.
We still have one episode left. Maybe Eddie is in Arvo's group..?
And we don't know how long episode 5 is going to be. The achievements mention finding the terminus so wherever the crew is headed, Eddie might be there. I'm almost certain Telltale knows the majority of fans liked Eddie (and dare I say Nate). I'm sure they'll come into play eventually.
Im not angry over Eddie not being in the episode because i knew he wouldn't be. The only thing that made think he could was that he was the cover of the chapter, but then again, a lot of people though Troy was Vince on episode 2's cover.
People want determinant characters to go out in style but the reality is that they're just characters waiting to be killed off. Nick was like Chuck really only difference was Chuck killed himself. I think telltale have a habit of making characters but not knowing what to do with them. So they have them in the background for a bit then kill them off or they serve their purpose and are waiting victims. Chuck was bought in to teach Lee the lessons of living in a ZA which i feel for Chuck because he had potential. Nick, they didn't know what to do after Pete died so they did the whole killed by Walter trick. I think a suitable thing would've been Nick dies where Sarah can die first off, then Sarah dies when the deck caves in.
Well, ep. 3 slide made everyone think Rebecca was going to give birth at Carver's camp, locked up somewhere safe. This only happened in episode 4, so there's still hope for Eddie in the finale, but thinking the episode is terrible because of his absence is taking it too far. One thing I don't get is the people calling everything "rushed". TWAU ep. 4 and 5? "Lol rushed". TWD ep. 3? "Come on telltale stop rushing". TWD ep 4? "OMG feels so rushed". I wonder if people know what that means.
EDIT: Also, unless I missed something obvious, there was no blood warpaint and hat wasn't gone?
Where does it say that?
Isn't Terminus the place where they eat people
Yeah I can agree with that. Let's face it, Season One wasn't perfect but damn was it amazing. Many characters don't live up to potential but I think that's pressure on the writers and then don't think out what they can do with the characters. Writing all the dialogue choices and physical choices are probably top priority and smaller determinant characters like Nick get shuffled into the mix. I wish Nick had died better but I also wish Chuck did. Hell Carlos should've been determinant in my book. But I think it's just how the season is. Some characters (specifically determinants) are just destined to die and that's how things go. I think the staff needs more writers in the room brainstorming and proofreading instead of just a select few. It would highly improve the series.
That's only in the TV show. By definition terminus is a goal or final resting point. So it could mean Wellington or elsewhere.
Haha yeah man. As I said things change in the writing developments. Dare I add this comparison but the comic covers very rarely have anything to do with the issues. Ponder that as you will but yeah I'm pretty tired of the rushed posts as well. I think Episode 4 of TWAU was shorter because it was a bridging episode and the season was wrapping up plots. Episode 5 to me was solid and sets up a lot of potential for season 2. And all the criticisms about length while I sit down and take my time and it still feels like a good enough episode. Back when season one was going on, TWD was the only project Telltale had. Now Telltale had both TWD and TWAU running at the same time whilst running early developments for Borderlands and Game of Thrones. So that is why the episodes are 25 minutes to a half hour shorter than season one's average episodes.
Season 1 was outstanding. It will always be better then Season 2 but it was always going to be hard for Season 2 to back up just how well Season 1 was. Still, each episode of season 2 IMO has been better then the one before it which is funny because Season 1 my favourites were 3,1,4,2 and 5 so it was all over the place.
The majority of the determinant characters who live on are just excessive baggage that are waiting to be killed. It's like they have no use for them so they just wait it out. Carely/Doug had potential to keep going. That's a good idea.
I think what they really should do is that if you're going to have say a character like Nick who can be saved and thendoes nothing until he is killed. Either have his death that and nothing else first off or write a storyline he could be in.
I reckon it would've been a great way to strain Nick and Lukes friendship by having Nick find out with the group that Luke was too busy getting off with Jane that Nick would think that Luke isn't bro's before hoes.
I'm going to come right out and say it that Nick shouldn't have been determinant until this episode. If they wanted to make him determinant, fine. But they should've made it like Ben. I liked Nick a lot but they didn't do enough with him. As you said, his relationship could've been strained here and in episode 5 maybe it could come down to picking Luke or Nick and based on both of their characters you can choose. I don't like the whole Kenny vs. Luke thing. Luke vs. Nick would've been better and Nick being determinant could've worked a lot better here.
And plus even though Ben was determinant, he still mattered and impacted in the last episode. When Nick was determinant, he did NOTHING. It's waste of a good character. I think they're only doing Kenny vs Luke because they're the 2 most popular characters besides Clem and felt Luke would dominate Nick in terms of people picking but Nick didn't get enough effort put into him like they did with Luke and also, a lot of people wanted Nick saved on here so why they killed him off in such a poor manner is confusing.
Am I crazy for saying that I would save Nick in Episode 5 instead of Luke if given the chance? I don't really like Luke anymore. I didn't like him much to begin with because I felt sorry for Nick. But yeah you're right Ben did have purpose even though he usually doesn't make it to my episode 5. He had a great character moment in the back yard and his death was quite poignant. Poor Nick. I guess I'd say Nick is the biggest gripe about the episode. Other than that, I quite enjoyed it.