Will we ever find out what happened between the cabin group and Carver
The whole cabin group is dead besides Luke and we still don't know a thing about them except that they were with Carver once, Do you think Luke will explain what happened between them and what caused them to leave?
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" Do you think Luke will explain what happened between them and what caused them to leave? "
Carver was a insane madman that murdered and prisoned people, that didn't do what he ordered them to do. Isn't that reason enough to leave his community?
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I don't think so, I want to know more, and I was incredibly invested after episode 1 and the slide thumbnails hyped me up a bunch so I bought it, expecting a lot. I thought Eddie would be in Ep. 4 and I also thought Carver would survive past Ep. 3. I do enjoy the story and everything that's happened so far, but there were so many other ways they could of went, that in my opinion, would have worked better, but honestly, I can't judge because we have yet to finish the game. There's a whole issue about the episodic format, that i'm sure has been covered on this forum before, but things change and scenes get cut and it gets streamlined, so to speak. I still love the series and am a life-time supporter of Tell Tale, there are just a lot of things that I wanted out of TWAU and TWD S2 but it's just that, I had high expectations after playing the 1st episodes of both games, they were really good, TWAU blew me away! and everything that followed was up and down for me, I did love the game after completing it though, although they could of added more content.
I only want to know how they ended up there in the first place, it's pretty clear they left because Carver was batshit crazy.
Umm what else do you need to know? They were with Carver once but tried to escape (because of Carver) and they succeeded.
I think carver raped rebecca and they had enough
It's been highly implied that he raped her so yeah probably.
Only thing that I would really like to know is whether Alvin knew about Rebecca's affair with Carver... I mean, there is stuff that points either way.
He killed a friend of Carver's in anger, so yeah, he knew.
Probably the same way that they got the 400 days characters to join; they were promised safety and they willingly went to join the group.
I thought he had killed George while trying to escape...?
His last words to Rebecca say a lot
We don't know, but Carver took it personally because he liked George and we know that Alvin is a nice enough guy. He must have been seriously enraged if he'd killed someone, and what's more rage-inducing than learning that your wife was being raped?
I still don't believe she was raped. Just how they interact with each other shows that. She is the only one in the cabin group to consistently call Carver "Bill". Everybody else in their group refers to him by his last name most of the time. I think that suggests more of a closer, familiar bond. I think she just made a mistake and cheated on Alvin, really. And while Carver was about to get his face bashed in, he was just rubbing it in that she chose to do it, that it wasn't just him.
She called Carver Bill because they worked incredibly close to each other. Don't forget the announcements and alarms were done by Rebecca before it passed on and she was pretty much Bill's secretary. She may have been very close to him, But it was heavily implied it was rape especially when he said "You and I know you enjoyed it" which if they did cheat out of affection, he wouldn't have said that because of course they'd have enjoyed it if they were in love. Women often time blame themselves and their abusers feed and fuel that blame on them.
He likely manipulated her or ignored her "no" and then forced her into it and that's rape.
That doesn't imply rape to me. I took it more as him saying "I am not the only one at fault here, you agreed to it too, don't act like you're so much better than me." I am not saying they were in love. You don't have to be in love with someone to have sex with them or cheat on your spouse. I think she had a brief affair with him, regretted it, and shut him out afterwards. And honestly, Rebecca is a pretty headstrong and smart lady. They're interactions with each other didn't seem like rapist and victim. She just seems too smart and self-sure to be manipulated into blaming herself for being raped. He seemed more like an overbearing, abusive, ex-boyfriend. The kind that you would try to break up with, but afterwards, he will not leave you alone. But really, the only thing that can be used to imply rape are those words, and they can be interpreted as a lot of things.
That's just the story I am getting from them at least. It just doesn't say "rape" to me. I am getting that Rebecca is a normal woman who just happened to make a mistake and got involved with the wrong guy, and that guy wouldn't give up the chance to have a family, even if that woman was already married.
Don't forget the power difference. From what little we get about their relationship in Episode 3, it seems that Rebecca served as his secretary, what with making announcements in his office. He admired her "strength" and it's likely he used that to rationalize making her the womb for his seed. The affection is extremely one-sided - Carver feigns kindness for her only to then threaten to kill her baby if she decides to escape again, and is willing to torture/murder her husband rather than respect her opinion. I think she always loved her husband, but the stress of escaping and not knowing if Carver was the father made her lash out at Alvin.
He could coerce her into sex because he was the leader of the group, and it's his word against his secretary's. Rape is not always violent, and in fact it's the more coercive kinds of rape that get under-represented both in reality and in fiction. I appreciate that Telltale went with this ambiguity, even if they were too subtle for a lot of people to grasp how twisted it was.
Maybe luke will one day explain, but not anytime soon. I'm sure they all got in one big cat fight.
The first two episodes made you think something went down and maybe Carver had some dirt on these strangers you met that appeared to be hiding something. Thanks to the powers of lazy writing we will now never know.
Well what do you think the mini-season between season 2 and 3 is going to be exploring?