Just Realized what the Amid the Ruins Selection Screen Might Mean ... Opinions Welcome

OMG Guys. I was just thinking. Trying to think. About stuff not related to Jane v. Kenny.

And I know this is super old news, but a cool revelation I think I had. This might get closed or merged, but I still think it's worth a try.

THESE ARE MY OPINIONS AND I'M IN NO WAY SHITTING ON OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS

So, a thought randomly came to me.

The reason why Clem is rubbing something 'red' on her hands, it's because . . .

SHE HAS BLOOD ON HER HANDS?! Y'know how that saying goes? If Clem either kills Sarita (by chopping off her arm and then axing her face) or by leaving Sarah at the trailer park, Clementine essentially is responsible for the deaths of a person. While I know these are determinant, it kinda makes sense because of how much responsibility as the player and how much responsibility Clem has on keeping people alive or trying to save others or do what's best for the group.

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I think in the picture, it makes reference to all the people in the background to whom we've played a part in a death of them or someone close to them.

Starting from left to right.

It sorta looks like Lee is on the furthermost left side. It just kinda looks like his sleeve, but it makes sense! Clem determinently kills Lee with a gunshot, or can blame herself for him getting bitten in the first place. She believes she might have Lee's blood on her hands!

Kenny is on Clem's immediate right. This one is pretty self explanatory, as Kenny blames Clem for Sarita's death no matter what we do.

On her left, I've seen people say this is Vince or someone else, but I believe it might be Carlos. As Carlos dies and this has nothing to do with us, but Sarah's death hinges on our decisions. Either way she dies, but this is another allegory to the fact that Clementine has the blood of someone else on her hands.

And on the far right of Clementine, there is who I think is Matthew. While Clementine still had nothing to do with this as in actually harming him, she was there and failed to stop Nick from shooting and killing Matthew.

In all these cases, Clementine basically could blame herself for having the blood of others on her hands.

Again, I know it's super old, but what do y'all think?

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  • maybe.... although the guy on the right is 100% eddie from 400 days and clem and eddie have no connections at all i think the episode was just rewritten

  • Well considering it's not 100% anything (there is no proof to who it could be), your statement is just opinion/theory, thus, the OP's theory is still on the table.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    maybe.... although the guy on the right is 100% eddie from 400 days and clem and eddie have no connections at all i think the episode was just rewritten

  • But... it could be Matthew ... maybe ..

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    Jewfreeus posted: »

    maybe.... although the guy on the right is 100% eddie from 400 days and clem and eddie have no connections at all i think the episode was just rewritten

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    dude that is 100% eddie there is no mistaking that any one who has played 400 days can see that the only thing i could think of if it isn't eddie is that it was just a placeholder to distract us or send us in a different direction

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    HeroStevyn posted: »

    Well considering it's not 100% anything (there is no proof to who it could be), your statement is just opinion/theory, thus, the OP's theory is still on the table.

  • dw the theory could still work there has to be a reason they showed only eddie's face

    But... it could be Matthew ... maybe ..

  • Or that top photo COULD be altered. Because... oh wait, it is. Anyone with basic photoshop skills could make it look like anyone they wanted.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    dude that is 100% eddie there is no mistaking that any one who has played 400 days can see that the only thing i could think of if it isn't eddie is that it was just a placeholder to distract us or send us in a different direction

  • Well, even so, it could just mean the blood that's on our hands as the player. Since we've had something to do with every person we see in the screen. It just puts more emphasis on Clem because she's the main character. But I won't deny it's Eddie in this screen.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    dude that is 100% eddie there is no mistaking that any one who has played 400 days can see that the only thing i could think of if it isn't eddie is that it was just a placeholder to distract us or send us in a different direction

  • LOL I'm just kiddin ya. ;)

    And isn't Eddie determinant? I don't really know, I never played 400 days, so I don't know his story... don't stone me please!

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    dw the theory could still work there has to be a reason they showed only eddie's face

  • i give up i don't even know why i am replying to you but anyway why would anyone photoshop it that is taken directly from the game ask anyone why do you think people were pissed when he didn't show up in episode 4? cause that is him

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    HeroStevyn posted: »

    Or that top photo COULD be altered. Because... oh wait, it is. Anyone with basic photoshop skills could make it look like anyone they wanted.

  • Alt text this is why clem don't have her hat in slide

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    he isn't determinant as in he dies you are playing as wyatt and you guys run over someone unsure whether it was a live human or walker they play paper scissors rock to see who will go if you win eddie goes and if you lose you go either way either you leave eddie behind because the guy chasing you tries to get you or when you go eddie leaves you cause the guy chasing them tries to get him so in both situations eddie is left unknown

    LOL I'm just kiddin ya. And isn't Eddie determinant? I don't really know, I never played 400 days, so I don't know his story... don't stone me please!

  • That facepalm is exactly my reaction to your sentence structure.

    And even if it really is Eddie... who cares? Season 1 Episode 4 features characters who were never in a sewer alone together. Season 1 Episode 5 features a soul-less Clem watching someone writhing on the ground. Season 2 Episode 3 shows Clem taking care of Rebecca. These things simply never happened. The Player base just trolled themselves. Get over it.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    i give up i don't even know why i am replying to you but anyway why would anyone photoshop it that is taken directly from the game ask anyone why do you think people were pissed when he didn't show up in episode 4? cause that is him

  • I'm over it in fact i was barely complaining about eddie not showing up i was just pointing out that people did complain but that still doesn't change that it IS him in that slide just cause he didn't show up doesn't mean we shouldn't care or say it isn't him and now you have gone from accusing me of posting a photoshopped image to pointing out the slides are different which you are right about but then why would you say that it is photoshopped if you know about the slides being misleading?

    HeroStevyn posted: »

    That facepalm is exactly my reaction to your sentence structure. And even if it really is Eddie... who cares? Season 1 Episode 4 feature

  • There is a fifth person on the far far right isn't there, looks like they have long straw like hair, who has hair like that in the game?

  • TellTale rewrote the story for Season 2, Episode 4 in particular.

  • Credit vivec.

    this is why clem don't have her hat in slide

  • That's Carly.

    rosm101 posted: »

    There is a fifth person on the far far right isn't there, looks like they have long straw like hair, who has hair like that in the game?

  • I just assumed she was putting blood on herself so she could walk through the zombies lol

    Well, even so, it could just mean the blood that's on our hands as the player. Since we've had something to do with every person we see in t

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    If Amid the Ruins had the same dark and depressing aspect as that slide you showed, it might've been the creepiest, best episode Telltale has ever written. But then again, these slides were made before the final version was even written.

    It my opinion, that slide should have been for episode 3, considering they got their face bloodied from walkers to get past the horde at the end and all. Man it looked like that episode could've been so dark. I was really hoping to see what episode 4 was going to be like since episode 1 came out. What a bust. It looked like some of the 400 days cast was supposed to join you and something terrible went wrong and Clementine's face full of blood was supposed to represent the deaths that she feels grim over.

  • How do people know this?

    fallandir posted: »

    TellTale rewrote the story for Season 2, Episode 4 in particular.

  • Well, I always thought .. There will be a doug/carly situation, and whoever stays with you is determinant, like the 400 days characters..

  • Sherlock told me.

    remorse667 posted: »

    How do people know this?

  • No really, how do you guys know?

    fallandir posted: »

    Sherlock told me.

  • fallandir posted: »

    Sherlock told me.

  • They are just assuming.

    remorse667 posted: »

    No really, how do you guys know?

  • The episode was 100% rewritten because Telltale can't do anything right anymore.

  • Well, Clementine didn't lose her hat at all or put on her face bloody face-paint, Eddie never did make an appearance, and original EP4 theme was different. Also, Rebecca was supposed to go into labor in the Episode 3, judging by the thumbnail.

    remorse667 posted: »

    No really, how do you guys know?

  • Honestly , IMO , amid the ruins wasn't bad apart from nicks death.
    I thought it was good and well written , am I the only one?

    The episode was 100% rewritten because Telltale can't do anything right anymore.

  • It's not altered. Go and see for yourself, turn the brightness up on your screen and you'll see it.

    HeroStevyn posted: »

    Or that top photo COULD be altered. Because... oh wait, it is. Anyone with basic photoshop skills could make it look like anyone they wanted.

  • Maybe Eddie was meant to be there instead of Matthew in the first place but they didn't change that.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    dude that is 100% eddie there is no mistaking that any one who has played 400 days can see that the only thing i could think of if it isn't eddie is that it was just a placeholder to distract us or send us in a different direction

  • edited September 2014

    If we judge by the thumbnail, Telltale rewrote Long Road Ahead, because it the thumbnail Duck is happy and in the game Duck is dying. The thumbnails have never been what you could call trusworthy.

    and original EP4 theme was different.

    You are assuming.

    fallandir posted: »

    Well, Clementine didn't lose her hat at all or put on her face bloody face-paint, Eddie never did make an appearance, and original EP4 theme was different. Also, Rebecca was supposed to go into labor in the Episode 3, judging by the thumbnail.

  • As long as we don't speak about Sarah and Nick? Yeah, it was good.

    lee4life posted: »

    Honestly , IMO , amid the ruins wasn't bad apart from nicks death. I thought it was good and well written , am I the only one?

  • I just don't understand all the hate.

    fallandir posted: »

    As long as we don't speak about Sarah and Nick? Yeah, it was good.

  • I adored Amid the Ruins, so you're not alone.

    lee4life posted: »

    Honestly , IMO , amid the ruins wasn't bad apart from nicks death. I thought it was good and well written , am I the only one?

  • Yay

    maxbear29 posted: »

    I adored Amid the Ruins, so you're not alone.

  • No, I'm not. This is original theme.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WO2aVFBjc

    It definietly got changed.

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    If we judge by the thumbnail, Telltale rewrote Long Road Ahead, because it the thumbnail Duck is happy and in the game Duck is dying. The th

  • I remember how people used to love this episode when it came out.

    lee4life posted: »

    I just don't understand all the hate.

  • I thougth you mean the theme(you know, writing wise) of the episode, not the music.

    fallandir posted: »

    No, I'm not. This is original theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WO2aVFBjc It definietly got changed.

  • Why was it hated on later?

    fallandir posted: »

    I remember how people used to love this episode when it came out.

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