I mean, I love KENNY to pieces, BUT don't you think that in the end he kind of turned into carver? In some kind of way :L
DONT GET ME WRONG I LOVE KENNY AND WE LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN MY PLAYTHROUGH
Just wondering if anybody felt the same?
He could have had a wife and a son. The son might have gotten bit, and his wife could have killed herself when she wasn't able to deal with losing her only child.
Jane said that Carver was once a good guy when she was comparing Carver to Kenny. Although Kenny and Carver are really different. I dont think Kenny could ever be insane like Carver was. I think people like Carver were always the way they were, but now they can do what ever they want.
Carver felt no remorse when killing anyone. He tossed a man off of a roof, and felt nothing. Simply walked away like nothing happened. Kenny might have went off the rails but he wasn't like Carver. Carver felt totally fine hitting young girls. Kenny wasn't like that.
I mean, I love KENNY to pieces, BUT don't you think that in the end he kind of turned into carver? In some kind of way :L
DONT GET ME WRONG I LOVE KENNY AND WE LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN MY PLAYTHROUGH
Just wondering if anybody felt the same?
It is possible however that Carver was like Kenny once feeling remorse at first...Just as the possibility of Kenny losing his remorse similar to Carver.
Carver felt no remorse when killing anyone. He tossed a man off of a roof, and felt nothing. Simply walked away like nothing happened. Ke… morenny might have went off the rails but he wasn't like Carver. Carver felt totally fine hitting young girls. Kenny wasn't like that.
He likely was just an ordinary engineer with deep-seated power fantasies who took to the role of dictatorship with glee. As SergeantSnookie said, he fits snugly into the role of a sociopath - something which differentiates him from Kenny, who is impulsive and violent but also genuinely caring - and I have a feeling that he always was a harsh person. Luke, Rebecca, Carlos and their loved ones all had compelling reasons not to like him, and as we can see from Bonnie and the other guards it's likely that the community was unaware of how he was mistreating their prisoners.
That being said, Bonnie implies that the stress of dealing with the chaos following Rebecca's initial escape made Carver unstable. I like to think he cared about 'George', whom Alvin killed. In other words, pushing people off roofs and beating them to death wasn't actually standard operating procedure for him.
He could have had a wife and a son. The son might have gotten bit, and his wife could have killed herself when she wasn't able to deal with losing her only child.
Carver was a bad man, Hits children, tortures people, murders and belittles people.. He clearly let the world bring him down with it.. He is everything my Clem won't ever be.
You know, I just thought about a very weird headcanon about Carver's backstory and I can't throw it away from my head.
Bill never had kids so when he met a child in the first few days of the outbreak, he tried to take care of it. You know, like Lee protected Clementine. Carver and the child joibed a small group. They created a settlement in the outskirts of the city and everything was fine for few months. Carver became a leader and continued to protect the child and he eventually felt like he's finally a father now. But somewhere deep inside Bill already had a wish of becoming a hardened leader that will keep everyone in his grip. A simple engineer finally had his moment of glory. He could finally get a power. But unfortunately, the camp was attacked by a large herd of walkers, so everyone had to leave this place and hit the road before Bill showed any signs of becoming a dictator.
During their journey, Carver started to slowly get cranky. He focused more on survival than a humanity. Everyone from the group started to die and with each day Bill were becoming more sure of those people being weak. He tried to teach the child everything he found out and pull "only strongest survive" on him, but the child didn't accept his world outlook. However, Bill didn't stop trying and he still cared a lot about the child, forgetting about everyone else, until only Bill, the child and another group member was left. The group member tried t convince the child that Carver is going insane and that they had to leave, but the child hesitated. The group member decided to abandon them and take everything they had, but Bill spotted him and slaughtered him right in front of the kid.
After a week, when Bill and the kid decided to spend the night in the forest, the child took some supplies, wrote a small farewell letter and left their rest stop with tears in his eyes. The child knew that he had no one left except Bill who still deeply cared about him and that he would never hurt him. But he was afraid of him and couldn't live like this. Full of regret and sadness, he left the man alone.
The true breaking point of Carver was when he realized that the kid abandoned him and he was all alone. That's the moment when he became completely crazy. But maybe, somewhere deep inside, he still remembers that child and forgave him for doing this...
I like to think he actually was an employee of Howe's since before the zombies arose, and it's after two years of bandit attacks, winters, zombie hordes and in-fighting that his sociopathic nature revealed itself.
You know, I just thought about a very weird headcanon about Carver's backstory and I can't throw it away from my head.
Bill never had kid… mores so when he met a child in the first few days of the outbreak, he tried to take care of it. You know, like Lee protected Clementine. Carver and the child joibed a small group. They created a settlement in the outskirts of the city and everything was fine for few months. Carver became a leader and continued to protect the child and he eventually felt like he's finally a father now. But somewhere deep inside Bill already had a wish of becoming a hardened leader that will keep everyone in his grip. A simple engineer finally had his moment of glory. He could finally get a power. But unfortunately, the camp was attacked by a large herd of walkers, so everyone had to leave this place and hit the road before Bill showed any signs of becoming a dictator.
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I mean, I love KENNY to pieces, BUT don't you think that in the end he kind of turned into carver? In some kind of way :L
DONT GET ME WRONG I LOVE KENNY AND WE LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN MY PLAYTHROUGH
Just wondering if anybody felt the same?
He could have had a wife and a son. The son might have gotten bit, and his wife could have killed herself when she wasn't able to deal with losing her only child.
Jane said that Carver was once a good guy when she was comparing Carver to Kenny. Although Kenny and Carver are really different. I dont think Kenny could ever be insane like Carver was. I think people like Carver were always the way they were, but now they can do what ever they want.
Carver felt no remorse when killing anyone. He tossed a man off of a roof, and felt nothing. Simply walked away like nothing happened. Kenny might have went off the rails but he wasn't like Carver. Carver felt totally fine hitting young girls. Kenny wasn't like that.
It is possible however that Carver was like Kenny once feeling remorse at first...Just as the possibility of Kenny losing his remorse similar to Carver.
The Apocalypse(tm).
He likely was just an ordinary engineer with deep-seated power fantasies who took to the role of dictatorship with glee. As SergeantSnookie said, he fits snugly into the role of a sociopath - something which differentiates him from Kenny, who is impulsive and violent but also genuinely caring - and I have a feeling that he always was a harsh person. Luke, Rebecca, Carlos and their loved ones all had compelling reasons not to like him, and as we can see from Bonnie and the other guards it's likely that the community was unaware of how he was mistreating their prisoners.
That being said, Bonnie implies that the stress of dealing with the chaos following Rebecca's initial escape made Carver unstable. I like to think he cared about 'George', whom Alvin killed. In other words, pushing people off roofs and beating them to death wasn't actually standard operating procedure for him.
I see what you did there!
Carver was a bad man, Hits children, tortures people, murders and belittles people.. He clearly let the world bring him down with it.. He is everything my Clem won't ever be.
You know, I just thought about a very weird headcanon about Carver's backstory and I can't throw it away from my head.
Bill never had kids so when he met a child in the first few days of the outbreak, he tried to take care of it. You know, like Lee protected Clementine. Carver and the child joibed a small group. They created a settlement in the outskirts of the city and everything was fine for few months. Carver became a leader and continued to protect the child and he eventually felt like he's finally a father now. But somewhere deep inside Bill already had a wish of becoming a hardened leader that will keep everyone in his grip. A simple engineer finally had his moment of glory. He could finally get a power. But unfortunately, the camp was attacked by a large herd of walkers, so everyone had to leave this place and hit the road before Bill showed any signs of becoming a dictator.
During their journey, Carver started to slowly get cranky. He focused more on survival than a humanity. Everyone from the group started to die and with each day Bill were becoming more sure of those people being weak. He tried to teach the child everything he found out and pull "only strongest survive" on him, but the child didn't accept his world outlook. However, Bill didn't stop trying and he still cared a lot about the child, forgetting about everyone else, until only Bill, the child and another group member was left. The group member tried t convince the child that Carver is going insane and that they had to leave, but the child hesitated. The group member decided to abandon them and take everything they had, but Bill spotted him and slaughtered him right in front of the kid.
After a week, when Bill and the kid decided to spend the night in the forest, the child took some supplies, wrote a small farewell letter and left their rest stop with tears in his eyes. The child knew that he had no one left except Bill who still deeply cared about him and that he would never hurt him. But he was afraid of him and couldn't live like this. Full of regret and sadness, he left the man alone.
The true breaking point of Carver was when he realized that the kid abandoned him and he was all alone. That's the moment when he became completely crazy. But maybe, somewhere deep inside, he still remembers that child and forgave him for doing this...
I like to think he actually was an employee of Howe's since before the zombies arose, and it's after two years of bandit attacks, winters, zombie hordes and in-fighting that his sociopathic nature revealed itself.