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Will China hear Hong Kong's plea for Democracy?

AnonymerAnonymer
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  • Can the staging of protests be effective in buying a country's freedom?

  • What if China doesn't give-in to the daily protests?

  • What legal and peaceful ways can Hong Kong do to gain it's freedom? Is there an authority that can give Hong Kong it's freedom even if China doesn't want to?

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  • SarangholicSarangholic
    edited October 2014

    I'd say "Fuck China," but as an American, we really haven't been having a good track record lately, whether the paramilitary deployment to Ferguson, the suppression of the Occupy Movement, the installation of 'free speech zones' (aka fenced-off pens) at major events, it's really hard to hold the moral high ground anymore.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QngE6kKk8Lg

    I've been to China, and as much as I like the people and the culture, I find the government of the PRC particularly loathesome. If Hong Kong wants freedom or autonomy, it can just ask Taiwan how they're doing. China is basically free to do what it wants, because the only people who can possibly oppose it are the EU and the United States, and neither of them have the will or the balls to do so - there are business classes making too much money. That's part of why giving the finger to Putin was such a stupid thing - it only drove Russia, an important wedge, to forge closer times with the Chinese.

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned

    -It depends, but revolution via peaceful demonstration is very difficult and requires a lot of sacrifice and restraint by the demonstrators, more often than not, a occupying government with either contain/ignore the dissidents (a la Tibet) or launch a brutal crackdown that spirals into civil war (a la Algeria/Libya/Syria.

    -Not a whole lot can happen, because civilians in Hong Kong don't have the means to take up arms against the government. China will either wait them out, or crack down like they did in 1989. Tianamen Square was a huge embarrassment for them! So I'm willing to bet that China is opting for the former.

    -Not really, Hong Kong is extremely profitable to China and it's doubtful they'd willingly let it go. I think the best Hong Kong can hope for is to make the 'One China, Two Systems' policy permanent. it's conceivable that Hong Kong could be granted independence by ICJ arbitration, but even so, China could simply choose to ignore the court's ruling, without fear of consequences.

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