I'd do what any sane and reasonable person would do. Abuse the shit out of my power. After all, what good is having power if nobody goes mad with it? That would sound like a boring country to me.
Best keep me away from absolute executive power. I lack the patience and tact required, I'm given to bouts of paranoia, and I can be a vindictive sod. Furthermore if playing Crusader Kings has taught me anything about myself, it's that I'll gladly wipe out entire dynasties because somebody looked at me funny. I'd be like a modern Nero. Just boring and prone to mope.
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and child molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
6: Have the crime of D.U.I punishable by up to six months of hard labor, plus a year suspension on the perpetrator's license, which would begin after his release. ( It will definitely make people think twice about driving while drunk or high. Which is good, considering all the harm that can be caused by doing so.)
7: Have the the common man pay 25% of his yearly wages in taxes, and the wealthy pay 45%. ( That way the working man would get more of a fair deal. The way I see it, why should the common man have to help support the rich, when the rich already have everything? Why shouldnt the wealthy help out more?)
And on that note, single-parent families would only have to pay 10% in taxes.
8: Disabled Military veterans would be tax exempt, have a prepaid income of $2,000 per month, as well as given free healthcare. (If they become disabled fighting for their country, whether mentally or physically, they should be treated well.)
And Non-disabled military veterans would have to pay only 15 in taxes a year.
9: The press would have the right to print pretty much whatever it wants to. However when a person's privacy has clearly been violated, that is when they would start facing some heavy fines. Just because a person is famous, doesn't mean they don't have a right to privacy like everyone else.
10: Make abortion illegal. ( I'll never support abortion. To me, it's the same as murder. Even if the woman was raped, though it is a tragedy, it doesn't mean that child is at fault.)
11: Outlaw food companies from putting things like trans-fats, High sodium, and saturated fats in foods, as well as spraying crops with poisonous chemicals.
12: Illegal immigration would not be tolerated. The borders would have high security. Anyone caught, would immediately be shipped back.
( If someone wants to legally become a citizen, they should have to learn the laws of the country, and learn to speak the language, instead of everyone else having to learn their language.)
13: Make insider trading illegal, even for those in Government jobs.
( If insider trading is illegal for the average Joe, it should also be illegal for the hire-ups.)
14: The age of legal adult status, would be the age of 21.
15: Any minor convicted of a crime, say of theft for example, would have to perform a minimum of 2 months of community service.
( He would not be housed in a correction house, but would be allowed to return home at the end of the day, but then would have to report back early in the morning.)
16: If a burglar is injured in an attempt to rob someone's home, the homeowner wouldn't bear responsibility.
( After all, the trespassers is breaking the law, and if he gets hurt doing it, why should his victim be held accountable?)
Although you've got some valid points, I must need to be the devil's advocate:
1: Must agree on this rule (even if it's harsh). But, behind bars, who molests a minor (or rapes someone) is statistically the one who gets beaten up the most... death for that someone is an easy way out instead of being beaten up for years for what they have done. Also, if you kill someone for killing someone, isn't that some sort of hypocrisy?
2: A parent doesn't have a work and he/she is poor and can't afford to pay for medications/food. If that parent steals to give some food for his hungry or/and sick family, is that considered bad or good? Stealing is bad, but that parent had to steal for the good of his family.
3: Agreed. An eye for an eye [makes the whole world blind]
4: If it's ilegal to drink before 25, wouldn't the new-drinkers drink more then they can handle on their 25th birthday? And there would be an increase of under-age drinkers that would iligally drink to taste liquor (even at age 16/18/21).
5: Do you mean that they teach kids at the age of 18 to drive or they let them drive the way they want to?
6: Must agree with you. But wouldn't it be better to send someone six months to do hard [forced?] labor for any crime they do? That will make everybody think twice before doing something bad.
7: Agreed. But, wouldn't it be better for the state for having higher income via taxes? The working class pays 25% of yearly wages in taxes, the wealthy pay 50% and the single-parent families would pay 15% in taxes. Also, what about 2 parents (working class) with a lot of children (3 kids or more)?
8: Only disabled Military veterans? What if If someone becomes disabled working for their country, whether mentally or physically? What if someone is born disabled? And why not give free healthcare to everyone (or at least the middle/working/poor class)? And about non-disabled military veterans... doesn't that make everybody want to go to the military to pay less taxes a year? The military is just another type of work.
9: What if the press insults a group of people? Is that OK, even if that group dosen't have anybody "famous"?
10: A child souldn't live in bad conditions (like with a single mother that was raped, with a teenaged couple, with some sort of disability that just makes their and their parents' life "not so well of" [no offense], etc.). For me, it should be illigal if someone wants to have an abortion just to have one "for fun".
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and ch… moreild molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
6: Have the crime of D.U.I punishable by up to six months of hard labor, pl… [view original content]
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and ch… moreild molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
6: Have the crime of D.U.I punishable by up to six months of hard labor, pl… [view original content]
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and ch… moreild molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
6: Have the crime of D.U.I punishable by up to six months of hard labor, pl… [view original content]
Okay, now that I've got that out of my chest, what's wrong with ya? I mean, hating on a fellow forumist is wrong on so many levels (only if you have a good escuse)
Meanwhile, I'm going to give you the definition of Middle Ages (aka Medieval Age, aka the Dark Ages): a period/era of devotion of Religion (Christianity in Europe and Islam in Africa/Asia/Europe; idk about the rest of the Faiths of the world), monarchy, feudalism and aristocracy. NOT outlowing good tasting (but, tbh, poisonous) food, drinking and driving at the age of 25 and drug dealers.
Well with number 5: At that age they'd have a learners permit.
With 2 years of supervised driving under their belt, when they do hit the road on their own, hopefully they'll be more equipped to drive smart.
With number 8: I've seen how the Government treats veterans, especially when it comes to them getting their benefits.
I have two family members that served in Vietnam.
After seeing how the Government deals with them, after the Government sent them over to do it's dirty work, those guys should be taken care of.
And with number 9: Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, as long as there is some sort of moral code behind it.
With number 2: Unemployment benifits would still be around, until the person in question finds suitable employment.
And as far as legal rights: Things like the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th amendment would still be in place.
WOW, nice.
Although you've got some valid points, I must need to be the devil's advocate:
1: Must agree on this rule (even if it's har… moresh). But, behind bars, who molests a minor (or rapes someone) is statistically the one who gets beaten up the most... death for that someone is an easy way out instead of being beaten up for years for what they have done. Also, if you kill someone for killing someone, isn't that some sort of hypocrisy?
2: A parent doesn't have a work and he/she is poor and can't afford to pay for medications/food. If that parent steals to give some food for his hungry or/and sick family, is that considered bad or good? Stealing is bad, but that parent had to steal for the good of his family.
3: Agreed. An eye for an eye [makes the whole world blind]
4: If it's ilegal to drink before 25, wouldn't the new-drinkers drink more then they can handle on their 25th birthday? And there would be an increase of under-age dr… [view original content]
Laugh at how powerless I actually am and the fact that even though I am the ruler now I have to answer to thousands of different organizations and the fact that the whole system is probably so corrupt that if I tried to make any changes that aren't in the interests of the cartels and corrupt politicians they porbably wouldn't pass.
Let's face it, I'm short tempered, idealistic and impatient I wouldn't make a good politician not to mention I'm not a very good liar and I prefer to resolve conflicts by beating the shit out of them, which is precisely why I try to avoid conflict as much as I can, also I have a very strange naive but at the same time extremely cynical outlook on life it makes for a very strange perspective and let's face it I'm just not educated to deal with that responsability even if I thought really hard about it and tried to do my best I would probably screw up, but really given my low tolerance of gangster and corruption I'd probably get killed before I even managed to do anything just by threatening their interests, I mean if you'd seen what I've seen you'd know that there's no salvation left for this country, the system is broken beyond any possible repair and the only way to fix it is to destroy it completely but that would crate a whole other set of problems that would be nigh impossible to deal with, there's just no right answer and no good possibilities and it really sucks that I've already given up completely.
It might be worth mentioning that I live in México.
You've got no idea how the World actually works do you?
1: You are aware that drug dealing is one of the easiest crimes to frame do you? Look people are corrupt and there are bound to be mistakes so between those two things tons of innocent people will die because of wrongful convictions, which is a thing that already happens with just murder, both rape and child molestation are also crimes that can be easily faked and framed not to mention that they are crimes that can get convictions even with circumstancial evidence, so again that's a lot of potential innocent people getting convicted there, and about drug dealing way too many of the people that do that only do that because they had no choice, you've never been to a ghetto right? It's not as simple as you think, there are tons of good people that end up selling drugs because that's the environment they grew up on and they weren't really given much of a choice, not to mention that there are tons of drug dealers that genuinely get rehabilitated and become upstanding members of society.
2: That won't stop anyone at all, most thieves won't even have the money to pay back and most thieves if not all just assume they are going to get away with it, it's nice in theory but it would make 0 difference, not to mention that again there are just people, nice people that simply don't have resources and they get desperate because they have families to feed and do something stupid purely out of desperation, but that isn't that harsh, it just leaves their kids without food.
3: Public humiliation never helps anyone, not to mention that the victim might not be comfortable with everyone else knowing which could be rather traumatic, considering this is for domestic violence it would be extremely easy to find out who the victim was.
4: Teenagers already drink all the time raising the age for drinking will merely make the shady people that sell underaged drinkers the liquor richer since 20 year olds tend to have jobs and therefore more disposable income, I'm pretty sure this would simply cause more problems instead of solving them, a better solution would be to have better eductation on those themes, which probably won't stop everyone but at least it doesn't give shady people money.
5: Eh... Age doesn't have much to do with that, perhaps having higher requirements in driving education for a permit and having driving schools would be a better solution.
6: Harsher punishment would be good but I don't think you know many people that do it if you think that's definitely going to make them think twice about it, plus you can always bribe the officer.
7: That seems like too harsh an increment, the whole point of paying taxes by percentage is that inherently the person that has more money pays more and the one who has less less, it's just the nature of the percentage, perhaps just revising taxes and analizying which ones could be cut and which ones should be enforced more strictly would be a better option, then again politicians can't be trusted when it involves their source of money,
8: That's actually pretty decent, perhaps the budget for it could end up becoming too large to handle but it's actually just a good idea.
9: Theorethically that is the system that is already in place, of course it doesn't actually work.
10: Not really worth arguing about as there's still too much debate about this, but outlowing abortion will generate a lot of children that will get raised in awful environments which wil make a lot of them gravitate towards drug dealing because of the situation of their upbringing which is something you want to punish with death.
11: This isn't an issue I've ever thought about, it'll probably remain that way.
12: Go ahead, you have no idea what a huge hit the economy of the US would get but if that's what you really want, of course people say that but if you do that could you at the very least not be assholes about it and send them back to where they belong instead of just leaving them in the border cities where they will have a terrible time making money to go back to where they belong, I'd say something about the hypocrisy of doing that since the US is a country founded on immigration but México's immigration laws are far worse, then again México is a shit country.
13: I will admit that I have no idea what this is.
14: Well it is an arbitrary line, can't say I care either way as long as you don't lower it.
15: That's not terrible.
16: That's fine I guess, so long as it doesn't make it OK to shoot an unarmed burglar just because he was inside the propperty.
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and ch… moreild molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
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Wait, don't tell me there is seriously some place in this world where the homeowner gets held accountable for injuring someone who's trying to rob them? WTF?
And for 10, I do think abortion should depend on the circumstances. For example, I don't really think it's any more right to make a woman go through the pain of giving birth due to a pregnancy from rape than to terminate the potential child. Rape is an awful experience. You don't need to go through it to know that. But if this law was in effect, would the woman still have the right to put the child up for adoption? I think there's a lot of cases where that just affects everyone a lot better.
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and ch… moreild molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
6: Have the crime of D.U.I punishable by up to six months of hard labor, pl… [view original content]
Make discrimination of any kind against a group of people illegal, with the punishment depending on the circumstances. For example, if a business denies service to someone because of race, religion, sexuality, nationality etc, then the business would be fined a certain amount of money that would depend on how much money the business has and past history of discrimination.
Fund a rehabilitation program which would focus on rehabilitating convicted felons who are deemed mentally stable. If they have a chance of being rehabilitated and put back out there contribute to society, then I think it's worth giving it a shot.
Fund a large enough military to defend my country and a reserve army to occupy a country if a war were to break out.
Try to maintain neutral relations with countries that could potentially pose a threat.
Raise awareness to parents that some media isn't appropriate for children. At some point media has taken the job that used to belong to parents which is to be a role model to children, and we need parents who can make intelligent decisions about what their children can handle and not blame filmmakers or game developers for what their children do.
Encourage schools to provide contraception to teenagers as part of sex ed classes. Honestly, sometimes you can't stop young people from doing it or not, so just make sure they're as safe as possible when they do it.
Encourage any future teen parents to take parenting classes if they intend to keep the child. If they don't want to raise the child, provide them with every available option.
Place mental health over physical health. What's the point of being physically healthy if you're sad or depressed? I'm a fat fuck to be honest and I'm pretty happy with my life at the moment.
Every government should have the laws you've mentioned already in their plans or Constitutions (I think that nº 4 is overprotective because, if every country has no army nor military force, there would be less wars since there wont be anything to fight a war with).
There's a lot of things I would do.
* Make same-sex marriage legal.
* Make discrimination of any kind against a group of people illega… morel, with the punishment depending on the circumstances. For example, if a business denies service to someone because of race, religion, sexuality, nationality etc, then the business would be fined a certain amount of money that would depend on how much money the business has and past history of discrimination.
* Fund a rehabilitation program which would focus on rehabilitating convicted felons who are deemed mentally stable. If they have a chance of being rehabilitated and put back out there contribute to society, then I think it's worth giving it a shot.
* Fund a large enough military to defend my country and a reserve army to occupy a country if a war were to break out.
* Try to maintain neutral relations with countries that could potentially pose a threat.
* Raise awareness to parents that some medi… [view original content]
But as a world leader you can't really control if other powerful nations have armed forces or not. You just kinda have to adapt to the shit your given.
Every government should have the laws you've mentioned already in their plans or Constitutions (I think that nº 4 is overprotective because,… more if every country has no army nor military force, there would be less wars since there wont be anything to fight a war with).
The only one i wanted to comment on was #5, imo its not the kids, its the people who don't speak english and get drivers licenses because of Obamanomics.
You've got no idea how the World actually works do you?
1: You are aware that drug dealing is one of the easiest crimes to frame do you? … moreLook people are corrupt and there are bound to be mistakes so between those two things tons of innocent people will die because of wrongful convictions, which is a thing that already happens with just murder, both rape and child molestation are also crimes that can be easily faked and framed not to mention that they are crimes that can get convictions even with circumstancial evidence, so again that's a lot of potential innocent people getting convicted there, and about drug dealing way too many of the people that do that only do that because they had no choice, you've never been to a ghetto right? It's not as simple as you think, there are tons of good people that end up selling drugs because that's the environment they grew up on and they weren't really given much of a choice, not to mention that there … [view original content]
12: Sorry, but how low can you go with saying the immigrents should learn to speak the country's language before entering? Okay, it's bad for illigal immigretion, but there's two reasons for immigration: business (most of the time) or pleasure meaning that, by saying "learn da language, bro", is wrong. I can't emmigrate to, as an example, France if I don't know French as well as English? What about I learn French in France?
13: You've got me there. No idea what's "insider trading".
14: Yet, other countries are at age 18. By the way, an adult is not "age", it's if someone is mature or not.
15: Minor? 20 and less? Anyhow, what if I were a minor and I'm a kleptomaniac... do I do community service for 2 months and then relax at home? It sounds like a chore more then a punishment. Minors are as human as I and you, thus they should be treated as humans as I and you.
16: Meh, I can't mentally search any bad ideas for your "point".
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and ch… moreild molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
6: Have the crime of D.U.I punishable by up to six months of hard labor, pl… [view original content]
a) Well, tbh, were I live, if the homeowner brutally hurts/kills the traspasser, the homeowner gets held accountable for injuring. One thing is self defence, another is an attack.
Wait, don't tell me there is seriously some place in this world where the homeowner gets held accountable for injuring someone who's trying … moreto rob them? WTF?
And for 10, I do think abortion should depend on the circumstances. For example, I don't really think it's any more right to make a woman go through the pain of giving birth due to a pregnancy from rape than to terminate the potential child. Rape is an awful experience. You don't need to go through it to know that. But if this law was in effect, would the woman still have the right to put the child up for adoption? I think there's a lot of cases where that just affects everyone a lot better.
The only one i wanted to comment on was #5, imo its not the kids, its the people who don't speak english and get drivers licenses because of Obamanomics.
First off, let me just say that I don't appreciate your insulting me.
Now on to business.
(3: For a man to beat up on his wife is totally wrong.
Downright shameful on his part.
And sadly, some even become sexually abused by their husbands, or boyfriends.
The way I see it, if he's gonna put her through that kind of hell, he deserves to go through hell himself.
Plus, when two people agree to either marry or live together, there has to be a strong amount of trust between them.
Now when one partner starts abusing the other, that trust is violated, and wouldn't you say that in itself is traumatizing, not just the abuse but also the violation of that person's trust?
I've seen the affect of when a man abuses a woman.
It's totally offensive to me, makes my blood boil!
And I have no sympathy for a man who does that.
Nor do I have any sympathy for a woman who abuses a man, and yes it does happen.
It can come either verbally, and yes even physically, as there are some men out there that will not hit a woman; even in self-defense.)
(13: If you don't know what that is, I suggest that you look it up.
"And I'm the one who doesn't know how the world works?")
(16: That's not what I was referring to exactly.
Under the law, a homeowner can be held liable if someone gets hurt on his property.
And sadly, if a burglar gets hurt, he can actually turn around and sue the homeowner for negligence, cause under the law, a homeowner is required to keep his home and property clean so that people can't get hurt.
It's a technicality, but yes a burglar can get away with doing that.
And now on to the subject you addressed.
If a burglar breaks in the middle of the night, do you have any idea what he is there for.
Is he there just to take your stuff, or is he there to harm you and your family?
Plus, how do know he isn't armed?
So on that note, a man should have the right to protect his home and family from any potential harm.)
As regards the rest of the things I would do, let me just point out that there is no perfect system of doing things, as all human beings are fallible.
There are, and always will be problems in all forms of Government.
You've got no idea how the World actually works do you?
1: You are aware that drug dealing is one of the easiest crimes to frame do you? … moreLook people are corrupt and there are bound to be mistakes so between those two things tons of innocent people will die because of wrongful convictions, which is a thing that already happens with just murder, both rape and child molestation are also crimes that can be easily faked and framed not to mention that they are crimes that can get convictions even with circumstancial evidence, so again that's a lot of potential innocent people getting convicted there, and about drug dealing way too many of the people that do that only do that because they had no choice, you've never been to a ghetto right? It's not as simple as you think, there are tons of good people that end up selling drugs because that's the environment they grew up on and they weren't really given much of a choice, not to mention that there … [view original content]
Yeah that is indeed awful but there is no need for public humiliation, it not only puts the abuser in the spotlight but also the victim and that's not right, the whole point should be to protect the victim and punishing the perpetrator should not be above that, not to mention that there's nothing really gained from it other than making the person duffer unnecessarily, though I'll admit that I'm one of those people that thinks revenge is stupid and you quite clearly don't share that opinion, still if you're aiming for the glorified name of revenge called justice you should at the very least seek for the minimum in collateral damage along the way and while it's true that not all victims would be affected by this punishment, perhaps even most victims since I don't really know, there would be at least some victims that would and that one person is more important than the punishment which is why it is not acceptable.
I probaly should but I can't say I care much that kind of issue, don't get me wrong it's good that you do but I have other kinds of problems in mind.
Yeah I know how that works and it's stupid that it can happen which is why I said it's OK, as for the self defence, well for example if the burglar is just running away once you catch them it shouldn't be OK to shoot them as that's clearly excessive force and unnecesary specially if it's just stealing, because your stuff is certainly less valuable than a person's life though considering your opinions on harsh punishment I have a feeling you don't concider lives of people that have done wrong to be paricularly valuable, which I'm afraid it's something that I disagree pretty strongly on, just like your brand of justice is particularly harsh, there are reasons behind crimes and while that doesn't mean they should be forgiven it means that perhaps it should be considered to not be as harsh on them.
While I've got your attention, you say that not system is perfect and basically deeming whatever collateral damage caused by the first rule to be acceptable, but just as an example of one which isn't even collateral damage just an example of the crime of drug dealing, so let's say there's some relaxed hippie guy that likes to smoke weed and he grows it at home and eventually starts inviting his friends over and shares his weed with them, they tell more people and he ends up selling it, this is most definitely against the law and I'm not going to defend it, but does someone like that really deserve to die? That seems rather excessive.
First off, let me just say that I don't appreciate your insulting me.
Now on to business.
(3: For a man to beat up on his wife is totall… morey wrong.
Downright shameful on his part.
And sadly, some even become sexually abused by their husbands, or boyfriends.
The way I see it, if he's gonna put her through that kind of hell, he deserves to go through hell himself.
Plus, when two people agree to either marry or live together, there has to be a strong amount of trust between them.
Now when one partner starts abusing the other, that trust is violated, and wouldn't you say that in itself is traumatizing, not just the abuse but also the violation of that person's trust?
I've seen the affect of when a man abuses a woman.
It's totally offensive to me, makes my blood boil!
And I have no sympathy for a man who does that.
Nor do I have any sympathy for a woman who abuses a man, and yes it does happen.
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It's not so much weed, that I have a problem with.
I think, just purely for economic benefit, that they should legalize pot nationwide.
When I made up rule 1, I had in mind more of the dealers that sell crack, heroin, and meth.
Those drugs destroy lives!
I've seen what meth can do to people, and it's grotesque.
The way I see it, the ones that deal those types of drugs might as well be guilty of murder.
Often times, those people love to prey on the innocent, and children are prime targets, as they're naturally more trusting than adults.
And for that, the dealers that sell those drugs, especially to children, deserve the harshest punishment imaginable.
Though to be clear, so no-one misunderstands me, I do not advocate vigilantism.
No, I believe things should be done legally.
* Yeah that is indeed awful but there is no need for public humiliation, it not only puts the abuser in the spotlight but also the victim an… mored that's not right, the whole point should be to protect the victim and punishing the perpetrator should not be above that, not to mention that there's nothing really gained from it other than making the person duffer unnecessarily, though I'll admit that I'm one of those people that thinks revenge is stupid and you quite clearly don't share that opinion, still if you're aiming for the glorified name of revenge called justice you should at the very least seek for the minimum in collateral damage along the way and while it's true that not all victims would be affected by this punishment, perhaps even most victims since I don't really know, there would be at least some victims that would and that one person is more important than the punishment which is why it is not acceptable.
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But they get some of them when they are young and make them start doing that kind of work at that age, I mean they do those awful things probably even murder, do these people that are forced into this deserve to die?
I mean don't they even deserve a chance to redeem themselves, to try to turn their lives around?
Sure a lot of them are going to end up being bad, some will probably choose to continue on that path because it's the only life they know but some won't and I think they deserve a chance, I don't know I've seen some shit, unlike you I don't mind vigilantism, hell I've even done it but where I grew up the police are not really all that different from criminals, you know, I've made bad choices I've done bad, not even bad terrible things, I'm hardly a saint but I turned my life around, I changed and became better which is exactly why I can't accept something as stupid as death penalty, people can change and I can't rob them of their chance to do so, I mean most probably won't but the potential is there, you know some people just get handed really bad cards and they just have to live with them and make bad choices because of that but that doesn't mean that they are bad, I think that while they do horrible things you're grossly oversimplifying morality if you think they should just legally get murdered, I mean the systems that are in place now are far from ideal but just killing them won't solve anything and like I said it's too easy to abuse and protecting innocent lives should always be more important than punishing guilty ones.
And I agree with your point about marihuana, regardless of my opposition towards consuming it the benefits gained from legalizing it are far too good not to do it, that was merely my example because you said no exeptions and well it clearly is selling drugs, no offence but that doesn't really paint a good picture about your character.
It's not so much weed, that I have a problem with.
I think, just purely for economic benefit, that they should legalize pot nationwide.
… moreWhen I made up rule 1, I had in mind more of the dealers that sell crack, heroin, and meth.
Those drugs destroy lives!
I've seen what meth can do to people, and it's grotesque.
The way I see it, the ones that deal those types of drugs might as well be guilty of murder.
Often times, those people love to prey on the innocent, and children are prime targets, as they're naturally more trusting than adults.
And for that, the dealers that sell those drugs, especially to children, deserve the harshest punishment imaginable.
Though to be clear, so no-one misunderstands me, I do not advocate vigilantism.
No, I believe things should be done legally.
People do deserve a chance to change their lives, I'm all for that.
The problem is, is that for the most part, people don't change.
Even if you were to give people a chance to change, most would either outright refuse, or would go along with it for a little while, but would eventually return to their old ways.
But they get some of them when they are young and make them start doing that kind of work at that age, I mean they do those awful things pro… morebably even murder, do these people that are forced into this deserve to die?
I mean don't they even deserve a chance to redeem themselves, to try to turn their lives around?
Sure a lot of them are going to end up being bad, some will probably choose to continue on that path because it's the only life they know but some won't and I think they deserve a chance, I don't know I've seen some shit, unlike you I don't mind vigilantism, hell I've even done it but where I grew up the police are not really all that different from criminals, you know, I've made bad choices I've done bad, not even bad terrible things, I'm hardly a saint but I turned my life around, I changed and became better which is exactly why I can't accept something as stupid as death penalty, people can change and I can't rob them of thei… [view original content]
I know that's the case, I'm pretty sure I said so, but you're lying if you say that because you want to kill them, that means there's no chance for that because they're dead, besides what's the point of all these killings, people shouldn't be killed unless there is no other way, I mean to be honest I don't approve of death penalty for murder either, I mean it's not like I don't understand the benefits of killing inmates instead of keeping them alive, that's something that makes sense economically but even if they're bad they are still people and we shouldn't kill the, doesn't what they did.
People do deserve a chance to change their lives, I'm all for that.
The problem is, is that for the most part, people don't change.
Even… more if you were to give people a chance to change, most would either outright refuse, or would go along with it for a little while, but would eventually return to their old ways.
Yeah because , you should be allowed to drive in a foreign country.... If you can't speak English you shouldn't be allowed to have a driver's license period. Obamanomics is appeasement, and America is sick of it. Once 2016 hits, America is going to be a lot more aggressive, because Obama will be gone. Isis will be a memory. The next president won't bitch out hopefully.
IMO Dems are fucked in 2016, but never know. When a republican get elected we will finally have immigration reform, to keep Illegals out of the country. Its so bad in texas, they are everywhere. The government lets them stay here because obama wants their illegal votes for dems in the next election, he doesn't care about these people.
You say we as a society shouldn't execute those who've murdered.
Well then let me ask you, what do we do with them?
The prisons are over-crowded as it is.
In fact, the average jail cell, designed to house two inmates, on average holds three.
Plus, by keeping murderers alive, in a sense we are contributing to their lifestyle, by paying to house them with our tax dollars.
Plus, as a society, where do we draw the line, as to what we tolerate and what we don't?
As to what is acceptable, and what isn't?
Society seems to just accept whatever is thrown at them these days.
Things that are done today openly, you would never have heard of being done openly 50+ years ago.
I know that's the case, I'm pretty sure I said so, but you're lying if you say that because you want to kill them, that means there's no cha… morence for that because they're dead, besides what's the point of all these killings, people shouldn't be killed unless there is no other way, I mean to be honest I don't approve of death penalty for murder either, I mean it's not like I don't understand the benefits of killing inmates instead of keeping them alive, that's something that makes sense economically but even if they're bad they are still people and we shouldn't kill the, doesn't what they did.
You say we as a society shouldn't execute those who've murdered. Well then let me ask you, what do we do with them? The prisons are over-crowded as it is. In fact, the average jail cell, designed to house two inmates, on average holds three.
Because, saying no killing to people then executing people is hypocritical. Plus, there are only like 2.5 million inmates nationwide.
You say we as a society shouldn't execute those who've murdered.
Well then let me ask you, what do we do with them?
The prisons are over-c… morerowded as it is.
In fact, the average jail cell, designed to house two inmates, on average holds three.
Plus, by keeping murderers alive, in a sense we are contributing to their lifestyle, by paying to house them with our tax dollars.
Plus, as a society, where do we draw the line, as to what we tolerate and what we don't?
As to what is acceptable, and what isn't?
Society seems to just accept whatever is thrown at them these days.
Things that are done today openly, you would never have heard of being done openly 50+ years ago.
Because not letting anyone that doesn't speak English drive would be pretty silly as that would mean tourists wouldn't be able to drive and foreign people with legal jobs like truckers would have to speak English, I mean my uncle used to be a truck driver and even though he mostly worked in México he would sometimes go to the US to leave cargo, which I doubt it's something you should have a problem with since it's perfectly legal and therefore adequately taxed.
Anyway I just thought you were talking about people like that with legal jobs, though I can't say I care much for whatever problems illegal immigrants cause because it's not my country and therefore not really my problem, I don't like the way they deport people though, they just leave them at the nearest border city and then they're stuck with no way to go back home, no money, no job, nothing basically, a lot of them just become hobos which sucks but I guess that's not really the US's problem.
Yeah because , you should be allowed to drive in a foreign country.... If you can't speak English you shouldn't be allowed to have a driver… more's license period. Obamanomics is appeasement, and America is sick of it. Once 2016 hits, America is going to be a lot more aggressive, because Obama will be gone. Isis will be a memory. The next president won't bitch out hopefully.
IMO Dems are fucked in 2016, but never know. When a republican get elected we will finally have immigration reform, to keep Illegals out of the country. Its so bad in texas, they are everywhere. The government lets them stay here because obama wants their illegal votes for dems in the next election, he doesn't care about these people.
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Sir I'm afraid you've gone mad with power.
Damnit.
Of course I have! You ever tried going mad without power? It's boring! No one listens to you!
Best keep me away from absolute executive power. I lack the patience and tact required, I'm given to bouts of paranoia, and I can be a vindictive sod. Furthermore if playing Crusader Kings has taught me anything about myself, it's that I'll gladly wipe out entire dynasties because somebody looked at me funny. I'd be like a modern Nero. Just boring and prone to mope.
If I were a ruler, I wouldn't really measure up.
Please, I got this shit all figured out!
1.) Well, I would start with the promise of freedom and prosperity. The peasants love that one.
2.) Promise to write a constitution and hold elections "as soon as I get around to it." (read: never)
3.) Develop the economy on the backs of the peasants.
4.) Consolidate power by quietly 'disappearing' my rivals.
5.) Make deadbeat uncle Ambassador to Swaziland so I never have to see his annoying ass again.
6.) Hatch over-complicated economic schemes, blame peasants when it fails.
7.) Forget to feed the peasants...again.
6.) Squirrel away half the gross GDP in my Swiss bank account.
8.) Marry a bimbo, put her in charge of the Department of Science.
9.) Bitch incessantly about American foreign policy, continue to accept US aid dollars.
10.) hold some Americans hostage, so Bill Clinton will visit.
11.) Change mind, have deadbeat uncle shot instead.
12.) Crack down on dissent, dissenter's skulls
13.) Win back the hearts and minds of my peasants. Alternately, instruct troops to aim for the hearts and minds of my peasants.
14.) Remind the peasants that cannibalism is punishable by loss of food rations.
15.) Alienate the US, fellatiate Russia.
16.) Desperately cling to power.
17.) Get dragged out of presidential palace and shot like a dog by my angry peasants.
Pretty average for a dictator actually...
If I was a ruler....
Free Pizza For Everyone!
If anyone remembers Overlord: Dark Legends, strict but generous to the people. Also, probably not a monarchy.
Well hypothetically if I were a ruler of my own country, here's what I would do:
1: Have the crimes of murder, rape, drug dealing, and child molestation, be punishable by death. No exceptions.
2: For the crime of theft, I'd have the perpetrator pay back the value of whatever he stole, plus an additional 25%.
( Make people think twice before stealing what another man has worked hard for.)
3: For the crime of domestic violence, I would make public flogging the punishment.
4: The Drinking age would be 25 yrs old. (As at 25, people are generally more responsible, and hopefully fewer incidents of drunk driving.)
5: The driving age, a permit could be granted at 18, but an actual license would not be attainable until the age of 20. (The idea being that with having 2 yrs of driving experience before having a license, would help lower the rate of accidents.)
6: Have the crime of D.U.I punishable by up to six months of hard labor, plus a year suspension on the perpetrator's license, which would begin after his release. ( It will definitely make people think twice about driving while drunk or high. Which is good, considering all the harm that can be caused by doing so.)
7: Have the the common man pay 25% of his yearly wages in taxes, and the wealthy pay 45%. ( That way the working man would get more of a fair deal. The way I see it, why should the common man have to help support the rich, when the rich already have everything? Why shouldnt the wealthy help out more?)
And on that note, single-parent families would only have to pay 10% in taxes.
8: Disabled Military veterans would be tax exempt, have a prepaid income of $2,000 per month, as well as given free healthcare. (If they become disabled fighting for their country, whether mentally or physically, they should be treated well.)
And Non-disabled military veterans would have to pay only 15 in taxes a year.
9: The press would have the right to print pretty much whatever it wants to. However when a person's privacy has clearly been violated, that is when they would start facing some heavy fines. Just because a person is famous, doesn't mean they don't have a right to privacy like everyone else.
10: Make abortion illegal. ( I'll never support abortion. To me, it's the same as murder. Even if the woman was raped, though it is a tragedy, it doesn't mean that child is at fault.)
11: Outlaw food companies from putting things like trans-fats, High sodium, and saturated fats in foods, as well as spraying crops with poisonous chemicals.
12: Illegal immigration would not be tolerated. The borders would have high security. Anyone caught, would immediately be shipped back.
( If someone wants to legally become a citizen, they should have to learn the laws of the country, and learn to speak the language, instead of everyone else having to learn their language.)
13: Make insider trading illegal, even for those in Government jobs.
( If insider trading is illegal for the average Joe, it should also be illegal for the hire-ups.)
14: The age of legal adult status, would be the age of 21.
15: Any minor convicted of a crime, say of theft for example, would have to perform a minimum of 2 months of community service.
( He would not be housed in a correction house, but would be allowed to return home at the end of the day, but then would have to report back early in the morning.)
16: If a burglar is injured in an attempt to rob someone's home, the homeowner wouldn't bear responsibility.
( After all, the trespassers is breaking the law, and if he gets hurt doing it, why should his victim be held accountable?)
WOW, nice.
Although you've got some valid points, I must need to be the devil's advocate:
1: Must agree on this rule (even if it's harsh). But, behind bars, who molests a minor (or rapes someone) is statistically the one who gets beaten up the most... death for that someone is an easy way out instead of being beaten up for years for what they have done. Also, if you kill someone for killing someone, isn't that some sort of hypocrisy?
2: A parent doesn't have a work and he/she is poor and can't afford to pay for medications/food. If that parent steals to give some food for his hungry or/and sick family, is that considered bad or good? Stealing is bad, but that parent had to steal for the good of his family.
3: Agreed. An eye for an eye [makes the whole world blind]
4: If it's ilegal to drink before 25, wouldn't the new-drinkers drink more then they can handle on their 25th birthday? And there would be an increase of under-age drinkers that would iligally drink to taste liquor (even at age 16/18/21).
5: Do you mean that they teach kids at the age of 18 to drive or they let them drive the way they want to?
6: Must agree with you. But wouldn't it be better to send someone six months to do hard [forced?] labor for any crime they do? That will make everybody think twice before doing something bad.
7: Agreed. But, wouldn't it be better for the state for having higher income via taxes? The working class pays 25% of yearly wages in taxes, the wealthy pay 50% and the single-parent families would pay 15% in taxes. Also, what about 2 parents (working class) with a lot of children (3 kids or more)?
8: Only disabled Military veterans? What if If someone becomes disabled working for their country, whether mentally or physically? What if someone is born disabled? And why not give free healthcare to everyone (or at least the middle/working/poor class)? And about non-disabled military veterans... doesn't that make everybody want to go to the military to pay less taxes a year? The military is just another type of work.
9: What if the press insults a group of people? Is that OK, even if that group dosen't have anybody "famous"?
10: A child souldn't live in bad conditions (like with a single mother that was raped, with a teenaged couple, with some sort of disability that just makes their and their parents' life "not so well of" [no offense], etc.). For me, it should be illigal if someone wants to have an abortion just to have one "for fun".
11: Agreed 100%.
Sounds like a police-state to me. To each his own, I suppose.
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Chill The Fuck Out
Okay, now that I've got that out of my chest, what's wrong with ya? I mean, hating on a fellow forumist is wrong on so many levels (only if you have a good escuse)
Meanwhile, I'm going to give you the definition of Middle Ages (aka Medieval Age, aka the Dark Ages): a period/era of devotion of Religion (Christianity in Europe and Islam in Africa/Asia/Europe; idk about the rest of the Faiths of the world), monarchy, feudalism and aristocracy. NOT outlowing good tasting (but, tbh, poisonous) food, drinking and driving at the age of 25 and drug dealers.
I need to self medicate
Well with number 5: At that age they'd have a learners permit.
With 2 years of supervised driving under their belt, when they do hit the road on their own, hopefully they'll be more equipped to drive smart.
With number 8: I've seen how the Government treats veterans, especially when it comes to them getting their benefits.
I have two family members that served in Vietnam.
After seeing how the Government deals with them, after the Government sent them over to do it's dirty work, those guys should be taken care of.
And with number 9: Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, as long as there is some sort of moral code behind it.
With number 2: Unemployment benifits would still be around, until the person in question finds suitable employment.
And as far as legal rights: Things like the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th amendment would still be in place.
I've added a few things.
"Lorde would eat the shit out of that ruler." 50/10 -ign
I'd like to think I would be good, but I won't be any good.
Laugh at how powerless I actually am and the fact that even though I am the ruler now I have to answer to thousands of different organizations and the fact that the whole system is probably so corrupt that if I tried to make any changes that aren't in the interests of the cartels and corrupt politicians they porbably wouldn't pass.
Let's face it, I'm short tempered, idealistic and impatient I wouldn't make a good politician not to mention I'm not a very good liar and I prefer to resolve conflicts by beating the shit out of them, which is precisely why I try to avoid conflict as much as I can, also I have a very strange naive but at the same time extremely cynical outlook on life it makes for a very strange perspective and let's face it I'm just not educated to deal with that responsability even if I thought really hard about it and tried to do my best I would probably screw up, but really given my low tolerance of gangster and corruption I'd probably get killed before I even managed to do anything just by threatening their interests, I mean if you'd seen what I've seen you'd know that there's no salvation left for this country, the system is broken beyond any possible repair and the only way to fix it is to destroy it completely but that would crate a whole other set of problems that would be nigh impossible to deal with, there's just no right answer and no good possibilities and it really sucks that I've already given up completely.
It might be worth mentioning that I live in México.
You've got no idea how the World actually works do you?
1: You are aware that drug dealing is one of the easiest crimes to frame do you? Look people are corrupt and there are bound to be mistakes so between those two things tons of innocent people will die because of wrongful convictions, which is a thing that already happens with just murder, both rape and child molestation are also crimes that can be easily faked and framed not to mention that they are crimes that can get convictions even with circumstancial evidence, so again that's a lot of potential innocent people getting convicted there, and about drug dealing way too many of the people that do that only do that because they had no choice, you've never been to a ghetto right? It's not as simple as you think, there are tons of good people that end up selling drugs because that's the environment they grew up on and they weren't really given much of a choice, not to mention that there are tons of drug dealers that genuinely get rehabilitated and become upstanding members of society.
2: That won't stop anyone at all, most thieves won't even have the money to pay back and most thieves if not all just assume they are going to get away with it, it's nice in theory but it would make 0 difference, not to mention that again there are just people, nice people that simply don't have resources and they get desperate because they have families to feed and do something stupid purely out of desperation, but that isn't that harsh, it just leaves their kids without food.
3: Public humiliation never helps anyone, not to mention that the victim might not be comfortable with everyone else knowing which could be rather traumatic, considering this is for domestic violence it would be extremely easy to find out who the victim was.
4: Teenagers already drink all the time raising the age for drinking will merely make the shady people that sell underaged drinkers the liquor richer since 20 year olds tend to have jobs and therefore more disposable income, I'm pretty sure this would simply cause more problems instead of solving them, a better solution would be to have better eductation on those themes, which probably won't stop everyone but at least it doesn't give shady people money.
5: Eh... Age doesn't have much to do with that, perhaps having higher requirements in driving education for a permit and having driving schools would be a better solution.
6: Harsher punishment would be good but I don't think you know many people that do it if you think that's definitely going to make them think twice about it, plus you can always bribe the officer.
7: That seems like too harsh an increment, the whole point of paying taxes by percentage is that inherently the person that has more money pays more and the one who has less less, it's just the nature of the percentage, perhaps just revising taxes and analizying which ones could be cut and which ones should be enforced more strictly would be a better option, then again politicians can't be trusted when it involves their source of money,
8: That's actually pretty decent, perhaps the budget for it could end up becoming too large to handle but it's actually just a good idea.
9: Theorethically that is the system that is already in place, of course it doesn't actually work.
10: Not really worth arguing about as there's still too much debate about this, but outlowing abortion will generate a lot of children that will get raised in awful environments which wil make a lot of them gravitate towards drug dealing because of the situation of their upbringing which is something you want to punish with death.
11: This isn't an issue I've ever thought about, it'll probably remain that way.
12: Go ahead, you have no idea what a huge hit the economy of the US would get but if that's what you really want, of course people say that but if you do that could you at the very least not be assholes about it and send them back to where they belong instead of just leaving them in the border cities where they will have a terrible time making money to go back to where they belong, I'd say something about the hypocrisy of doing that since the US is a country founded on immigration but México's immigration laws are far worse, then again México is a shit country.
13: I will admit that I have no idea what this is.
14: Well it is an arbitrary line, can't say I care either way as long as you don't lower it.
15: That's not terrible.
16: That's fine I guess, so long as it doesn't make it OK to shoot an unarmed burglar just because he was inside the propperty.
I'd probably be like Ramsay from game of thrones. A merciless leader who everyone fears and partially insane.
Wait, don't tell me there is seriously some place in this world where the homeowner gets held accountable for injuring someone who's trying to rob them? WTF?
And for 10, I do think abortion should depend on the circumstances. For example, I don't really think it's any more right to make a woman go through the pain of giving birth due to a pregnancy from rape than to terminate the potential child. Rape is an awful experience. You don't need to go through it to know that. But if this law was in effect, would the woman still have the right to put the child up for adoption? I think there's a lot of cases where that just affects everyone a lot better.
There's a lot of things I would do.
Every government should have the laws you've mentioned already in their plans or Constitutions (I think that nº 4 is overprotective because, if every country has no army nor military force, there would be less wars since there wont be anything to fight a war with).
But as a world leader you can't really control if other powerful nations have armed forces or not. You just kinda have to adapt to the shit your given.
The only one i wanted to comment on was #5, imo its not the kids, its the people who don't speak english and get drivers licenses because of Obamanomics.
This post is after your Edit adding 12 to 16
12: Sorry, but how low can you go with saying the immigrents should learn to speak the country's language before entering? Okay, it's bad for illigal immigretion, but there's two reasons for immigration: business (most of the time) or pleasure meaning that, by saying "learn da language, bro", is wrong. I can't emmigrate to, as an example, France if I don't know French as well as English? What about I learn French in France?
13: You've got me there. No idea what's "insider trading".
14: Yet, other countries are at age 18. By the way, an adult is not "age", it's if someone is mature or not.
15: Minor? 20 and less? Anyhow, what if I were a minor and I'm a kleptomaniac... do I do community service for 2 months and then relax at home? It sounds like a chore more then a punishment. Minors are as human as I and you, thus they should be treated as humans as I and you.
16: Meh, I can't mentally search any bad ideas for your "point".
a) Well, tbh, were I live, if the homeowner brutally hurts/kills the traspasser, the homeowner gets held accountable for injuring. One thing is self defence, another is an attack.
b) Agreed.
I guess that makes sense, there are a lot of immigrants in the US and it would suck if they weren't able to drive because of the education barrier.
First off, let me just say that I don't appreciate your insulting me.
Now on to business.
(3: For a man to beat up on his wife is totally wrong.
Downright shameful on his part.
And sadly, some even become sexually abused by their husbands, or boyfriends.
The way I see it, if he's gonna put her through that kind of hell, he deserves to go through hell himself.
Plus, when two people agree to either marry or live together, there has to be a strong amount of trust between them.
Now when one partner starts abusing the other, that trust is violated, and wouldn't you say that in itself is traumatizing, not just the abuse but also the violation of that person's trust?
I've seen the affect of when a man abuses a woman.
It's totally offensive to me, makes my blood boil!
And I have no sympathy for a man who does that.
Nor do I have any sympathy for a woman who abuses a man, and yes it does happen.
It can come either verbally, and yes even physically, as there are some men out there that will not hit a woman; even in self-defense.)
(13: If you don't know what that is, I suggest that you look it up.
"And I'm the one who doesn't know how the world works?")
(16: That's not what I was referring to exactly.
Under the law, a homeowner can be held liable if someone gets hurt on his property.
And sadly, if a burglar gets hurt, he can actually turn around and sue the homeowner for negligence, cause under the law, a homeowner is required to keep his home and property clean so that people can't get hurt.
It's a technicality, but yes a burglar can get away with doing that.
And now on to the subject you addressed.
If a burglar breaks in the middle of the night, do you have any idea what he is there for.
Is he there just to take your stuff, or is he there to harm you and your family?
Plus, how do know he isn't armed?
So on that note, a man should have the right to protect his home and family from any potential harm.)
As regards the rest of the things I would do, let me just point out that there is no perfect system of doing things, as all human beings are fallible.
There are, and always will be problems in all forms of Government.
Yeah that is indeed awful but there is no need for public humiliation, it not only puts the abuser in the spotlight but also the victim and that's not right, the whole point should be to protect the victim and punishing the perpetrator should not be above that, not to mention that there's nothing really gained from it other than making the person duffer unnecessarily, though I'll admit that I'm one of those people that thinks revenge is stupid and you quite clearly don't share that opinion, still if you're aiming for the glorified name of revenge called justice you should at the very least seek for the minimum in collateral damage along the way and while it's true that not all victims would be affected by this punishment, perhaps even most victims since I don't really know, there would be at least some victims that would and that one person is more important than the punishment which is why it is not acceptable.
I probaly should but I can't say I care much that kind of issue, don't get me wrong it's good that you do but I have other kinds of problems in mind.
Yeah I know how that works and it's stupid that it can happen which is why I said it's OK, as for the self defence, well for example if the burglar is just running away once you catch them it shouldn't be OK to shoot them as that's clearly excessive force and unnecesary specially if it's just stealing, because your stuff is certainly less valuable than a person's life though considering your opinions on harsh punishment I have a feeling you don't concider lives of people that have done wrong to be paricularly valuable, which I'm afraid it's something that I disagree pretty strongly on, just like your brand of justice is particularly harsh, there are reasons behind crimes and while that doesn't mean they should be forgiven it means that perhaps it should be considered to not be as harsh on them.
While I've got your attention, you say that not system is perfect and basically deeming whatever collateral damage caused by the first rule to be acceptable, but just as an example of one which isn't even collateral damage just an example of the crime of drug dealing, so let's say there's some relaxed hippie guy that likes to smoke weed and he grows it at home and eventually starts inviting his friends over and shares his weed with them, they tell more people and he ends up selling it, this is most definitely against the law and I'm not going to defend it, but does someone like that really deserve to die? That seems rather excessive.
It's not so much weed, that I have a problem with.
I think, just purely for economic benefit, that they should legalize pot nationwide.
When I made up rule 1, I had in mind more of the dealers that sell crack, heroin, and meth.
Those drugs destroy lives!
I've seen what meth can do to people, and it's grotesque.
The way I see it, the ones that deal those types of drugs might as well be guilty of murder.
Often times, those people love to prey on the innocent, and children are prime targets, as they're naturally more trusting than adults.
And for that, the dealers that sell those drugs, especially to children, deserve the harshest punishment imaginable.
Though to be clear, so no-one misunderstands me, I do not advocate vigilantism.
No, I believe things should be done legally.
But they get some of them when they are young and make them start doing that kind of work at that age, I mean they do those awful things probably even murder, do these people that are forced into this deserve to die?
I mean don't they even deserve a chance to redeem themselves, to try to turn their lives around?
Sure a lot of them are going to end up being bad, some will probably choose to continue on that path because it's the only life they know but some won't and I think they deserve a chance, I don't know I've seen some shit, unlike you I don't mind vigilantism, hell I've even done it but where I grew up the police are not really all that different from criminals, you know, I've made bad choices I've done bad, not even bad terrible things, I'm hardly a saint but I turned my life around, I changed and became better which is exactly why I can't accept something as stupid as death penalty, people can change and I can't rob them of their chance to do so, I mean most probably won't but the potential is there, you know some people just get handed really bad cards and they just have to live with them and make bad choices because of that but that doesn't mean that they are bad, I think that while they do horrible things you're grossly oversimplifying morality if you think they should just legally get murdered, I mean the systems that are in place now are far from ideal but just killing them won't solve anything and like I said it's too easy to abuse and protecting innocent lives should always be more important than punishing guilty ones.
And I agree with your point about marihuana, regardless of my opposition towards consuming it the benefits gained from legalizing it are far too good not to do it, that was merely my example because you said no exeptions and well it clearly is selling drugs, no offence but that doesn't really paint a good picture about your character.
People do deserve a chance to change their lives, I'm all for that.
The problem is, is that for the most part, people don't change.
Even if you were to give people a chance to change, most would either outright refuse, or would go along with it for a little while, but would eventually return to their old ways.
I know that's the case, I'm pretty sure I said so, but you're lying if you say that because you want to kill them, that means there's no chance for that because they're dead, besides what's the point of all these killings, people shouldn't be killed unless there is no other way, I mean to be honest I don't approve of death penalty for murder either, I mean it's not like I don't understand the benefits of killing inmates instead of keeping them alive, that's something that makes sense economically but even if they're bad they are still people and we shouldn't kill the, doesn't what they did.
I'll rule my country as Diva's Champ-
I mean...
I'll try not to fuck up.
Yeah because , you should be allowed to drive in a foreign country.... If you can't speak English you shouldn't be allowed to have a driver's license period. Obamanomics is appeasement, and America is sick of it. Once 2016 hits, America is going to be a lot more aggressive, because Obama will be gone. Isis will be a memory. The next president won't bitch out hopefully.
IMO Dems are fucked in 2016, but never know. When a republican get elected we will finally have immigration reform, to keep Illegals out of the country. Its so bad in texas, they are everywhere. The government lets them stay here because obama wants their illegal votes for dems in the next election, he doesn't care about these people.
You say we as a society shouldn't execute those who've murdered.
Well then let me ask you, what do we do with them?
The prisons are over-crowded as it is.
In fact, the average jail cell, designed to house two inmates, on average holds three.
Plus, by keeping murderers alive, in a sense we are contributing to their lifestyle, by paying to house them with our tax dollars.
Plus, as a society, where do we draw the line, as to what we tolerate and what we don't?
As to what is acceptable, and what isn't?
Society seems to just accept whatever is thrown at them these days.
Things that are done today openly, you would never have heard of being done openly 50+ years ago.
Because, saying no killing to people then executing people is hypocritical. Plus, there are only like 2.5 million inmates nationwide.
You're just mad at illegal immigrants right?
Because not letting anyone that doesn't speak English drive would be pretty silly as that would mean tourists wouldn't be able to drive and foreign people with legal jobs like truckers would have to speak English, I mean my uncle used to be a truck driver and even though he mostly worked in México he would sometimes go to the US to leave cargo, which I doubt it's something you should have a problem with since it's perfectly legal and therefore adequately taxed.
Anyway I just thought you were talking about people like that with legal jobs, though I can't say I care much for whatever problems illegal immigrants cause because it's not my country and therefore not really my problem, I don't like the way they deport people though, they just leave them at the nearest border city and then they're stuck with no way to go back home, no money, no job, nothing basically, a lot of them just become hobos which sucks but I guess that's not really the US's problem.