I think Talia should prepare another funeral song. Rodrik will die. Elena can refuse so the marriage won't happen. Asher will come back, I'm sure, but won't meet his brother. Why? Because protagonist never talks with another protagonist. In TftB it is possible, but not in GoT. Remember Gared and Rodrik scene? If one day Asher will reach Ironrath, Rodrik will be dead.
I think Talia should prepare another funeral song. Rodrik will die. Elena can refuse so the marriage won't happen. Asher will come back, I'm… more sure, but won't meet his brother. Why? Because protagonist never talks with another protagonist. In TftB it is possible, but not in GoT. Remember Gared and Rodrik scene? If one day Asher will reach Ironrath, Rodrik will be dead.
Maybe he completely bypasses Ironrath and heads straight for Highpoint or something. Either that or they manage to have multiple POV characters in one place. I don't think they're going to kill the Lord of Ironrath again considering they've already done it twice.
I don't think he is either, or like the season finale cliffhanger or something is him finally heading there. There's a couple reasons why, I just feel like he won't.
I accept Rodrik's return and I like his story but still.. I have the feeling Ironrath is not place for him. Psycho Ramsay killed Ethan, not Whitehill. Ludd's soldiers may defend their lord and kill Rodrik. We know what Lady F. asked for. It's risky and won't help.
Maybe he completely bypasses Ironrath and heads straight for Highpoint or something. Either that or they manage to have multiple POV charact… moreers in one place. I don't think they're going to kill the Lord of Ironrath again considering they've already done it twice.
"This city is filled with all sorts of ambitious opportunists looking to reinvent themselves, pretending to be something they're not. Who knows what lurks within their hearts?" - Queen Cersei
I feel this is some sort of foreshadowing for Mira. Sera might betray her for gold, or something.
Sera's ambitious [in her words :"I'd do anything to become queen"]
She wants to reinvent herself [not be handmaiden anymore, become a noble wife] ,
And lastly she pretends to be something she's not [ she hides her bastard roots] .
Cotter or Finn gets hold of Talia's necklace which Gared doesn't respond kindly to. It must serve more of a purpose than just Gared staring at it once every episode.
''Kill every whitehill down to the babes in their beds'' If i am giving the choice of killing a baby i am so taking it.
''You and 5% of players killed the baby''
Maybe a cliché, but i expect a downhill battle from here for the Forresters, and when things are most dire, Asher will come save the day with his army.
This is exactly what I have been thinking as well.
Maybe a cliché, but i expect a downhill battle from here for the Forresters, and when things are most dire, Asher will come save the day with his army. Pretty much what Tywin did for Kings Landing.
Yeah, but in the latter case the house "dies" because it doesn't usually continue through female line.
Then again, the current ruling line of House Mormont is all-female (well, some of them may have sons, but the current ruler and her 3 or 4 children are female) and going strong and it doesn't look like the House will go extinct any time soon.
Well just because it usually doesn't go through the female line doesn't mean it can't. Even if it can't, however, Duncan or Royland would likely end up taking over the house. Just because the family no longer rules Ironrath doesn't mean the house dies.
Yeah, but in the latter case the house "dies" because it doesn't usually continue through female line.
Then again, the current ruling lin… moree of House Mormont is all-female (well, some of them may have sons, but the current ruler and her 3 or 4 children are female) and going strong and it doesn't look like the House will go extinct any time soon.
Castellan or Master-at-Arms taking over? Not likely. Female members of the House can rule, it just often happens that the seat they hold is passed to another House through marriage. Not always, but that's how it happens most often.
Well, since the House would (hypothetically at the moment) stop ruling Ironrath, they'd become unimportant and would most likely fall into obscurity. They aren't a former royal House, after all. Doesn't necessarily means they'd die out, but they wouldn't matter anymore nonetheless.
Well just because it usually doesn't go through the female line doesn't mean it can't. Even if it can't, however, Duncan or Royland would li… morekely end up taking over the house. Just because the family no longer rules Ironrath doesn't mean the house dies.
Well you saw the "Next time" segment from episode 1. That's exactly what was happening. They were fighting over who would rule, Duncan vs Royland.
Also, I doubt that Duncan and Royland would forget about the Forresters that were left. They would continue to be nobility, and continue to have responsibilities within Ironrath. House Forrester would matter just as much as it used to, only now it would be called House Tuttle, or House DeGore. The family would no longer rule Ironrath in this scenario, but I believe that Duncan and/or Royland would continue to care for them.
Castellan or Master-at-Arms taking over? Not likely. Female members of the House can rule, it just often happens that the seat they hold is … morepassed to another House through marriage. Not always, but that's how it happens most often.
Well, since the House would (hypothetically at the moment) stop ruling Ironrath, they'd become unimportant and would most likely fall into obscurity. They aren't a former royal House, after all. Doesn't necessarily means they'd die out, but they wouldn't matter anymore nonetheless.
Yeah, they were fighting and then Rodrik returned. Not to mention that Sentinel is a Lord's advisor, similar to Castellan/Hand of the King. They can rule in Lord's absence, but only in such circumstances. I don't expect either of them to just seize power should Forresters start lacking in numbers.
Also, noble houses don't transition like that. Unless either Duncan or Royland marry Mira or Talia, that is. In that case they establish a new house, but House Forrester is lost, nevertheless.
Well you saw the "Next time" segment from episode 1. That's exactly what was happening. They were fighting over who would rule, Duncan vs Ro… moreyland.
Also, I doubt that Duncan and Royland would forget about the Forresters that were left. They would continue to be nobility, and continue to have responsibilities within Ironrath. House Forrester would matter just as much as it used to, only now it would be called House Tuttle, or House DeGore. The family would no longer rule Ironrath in this scenario, but I believe that Duncan and/or Royland would continue to care for them.
"to kill even Whitehill babies" may foreshadow her killing Gryff. I know he's not technically a baby but he is one of Lord Whitehill's youngest sons (fourth born) if not the youngest.
This makes a lot more sense now...
I think it's referring to the blood magic at the North grove?
As it's written in the perspective of the eastern mage it's suggesting that the eastern mage will perform blood magic 'across the sea' (ie. across the Narrow Sea, in Westeros). I think Elsera's army horde could be undead Others, making them the beasts referred to in the song?
I wonder if they will have a Mance like character next season. The attack on castle black should be coming soon and with the option to go back to Ironrath.. Gared and the Sera twins will be caught in the middle of that.
And I'm so glad I told Jon snow about the north grove now!!!!
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I think Talia should prepare another funeral song. Rodrik will die. Elena can refuse so the marriage won't happen. Asher will come back, I'm sure, but won't meet his brother. Why? Because protagonist never talks with another protagonist. In TftB it is possible, but not in GoT. Remember Gared and Rodrik scene? If one day Asher will reach Ironrath, Rodrik will be dead.
Or Asher just doesn't make it to Ironrath.
Wow, you really think he won't? What about him and Gwyn, help for his family, army of sellswords, Malcolm's journey.
All these things are negligible?!
Maybe he completely bypasses Ironrath and heads straight for Highpoint or something. Either that or they manage to have multiple POV characters in one place. I don't think they're going to kill the Lord of Ironrath again considering they've already done it twice.
I don't think he is either, or like the season finale cliffhanger or something is him finally heading there. There's a couple reasons why, I just feel like he won't.
I accept Rodrik's return and I like his story but still.. I have the feeling Ironrath is not place for him. Psycho Ramsay killed Ethan, not Whitehill. Ludd's soldiers may defend their lord and kill Rodrik. We know what Lady F. asked for. It's risky and won't help.
Why does someone have to get to Dorne?
"This city is filled with all sorts of ambitious opportunists looking to reinvent themselves, pretending to be something they're not. Who knows what lurks within their hearts?" - Queen Cersei
I feel this is some sort of foreshadowing for Mira. Sera might betray her for gold, or something.
Sera's ambitious [in her words :"I'd do anything to become queen"]
She wants to reinvent herself [not be handmaiden anymore, become a noble wife] ,
And lastly she pretends to be something she's not [ she hides her bastard roots] .
Cotter or Finn gets hold of Talia's necklace which Gared doesn't respond kindly to. It must serve more of a purpose than just Gared staring at it once every episode.
Because it will be portrayed in the show. I doubt they will leave the Martells and Dorne out, there are plenty of things they can do there.
I chose 'Seven Fucking Hells!' because I know that Rodrik is not going to kill that man. It's 'Game of Thrones' and a Telltale game after all.
Cotter really does fuck a potato.
''Kill every whitehill down to the babes in their beds'' If i am giving the choice of killing a baby i am so taking it.
''You and 5% of players killed the baby''
No chill
Even better, if he kills Gwyn, Asher goes into a rage and kills him, but the house lives.
Yeah, as if people are going to tolerate a kinslayer as their lord.
This is exactly what I have been thinking as well.
I chose "This isn't over !"
Well Asher wouldn't be lord. Ryon would. Or, if Ryon dies, Talia would.
Yeah, but in the latter case the house "dies" because it doesn't usually continue through female line.
Then again, the current ruling line of House Mormont is all-female (well, some of them may have sons, but the current ruler and her 3 or 4 children are female) and going strong and it doesn't look like the House will go extinct any time soon.
Well just because it usually doesn't go through the female line doesn't mean it can't. Even if it can't, however, Duncan or Royland would likely end up taking over the house. Just because the family no longer rules Ironrath doesn't mean the house dies.
Castellan or Master-at-Arms taking over? Not likely. Female members of the House can rule, it just often happens that the seat they hold is passed to another House through marriage. Not always, but that's how it happens most often.
Well, since the House would (hypothetically at the moment) stop ruling Ironrath, they'd become unimportant and would most likely fall into obscurity. They aren't a former royal House, after all. Doesn't necessarily means they'd die out, but they wouldn't matter anymore nonetheless.
Well you saw the "Next time" segment from episode 1. That's exactly what was happening. They were fighting over who would rule, Duncan vs Royland.
Also, I doubt that Duncan and Royland would forget about the Forresters that were left. They would continue to be nobility, and continue to have responsibilities within Ironrath. House Forrester would matter just as much as it used to, only now it would be called House Tuttle, or House DeGore. The family would no longer rule Ironrath in this scenario, but I believe that Duncan and/or Royland would continue to care for them.
Yeah, they were fighting and then Rodrik returned. Not to mention that Sentinel is a Lord's advisor, similar to Castellan/Hand of the King. They can rule in Lord's absence, but only in such circumstances. I don't expect either of them to just seize power should Forresters start lacking in numbers.
Also, noble houses don't transition like that. Unless either Duncan or Royland marry Mira or Talia, that is. In that case they establish a new house, but House Forrester is lost, nevertheless.
He could kill him when he's asleep. kill the babes in their cots
Whitehill soldiers gotta sleep too.
(Extract from Talia's ballad)
This makes a lot more sense now...
I think it's referring to the blood magic at the North grove?
As it's written in the perspective of the eastern mage it's suggesting that the eastern mage will perform blood magic 'across the sea' (ie. across the Narrow Sea, in Westeros). I think Elsera's army horde could be undead Others, making them the beasts referred to in the song?
I wonder if they will have a Mance like character next season. The attack on castle black should be coming soon and with the option to go back to Ironrath.. Gared and the Sera twins will be caught in the middle of that.
And I'm so glad I told Jon snow about the north grove now!!!!